BBA Design - RS200 Kit review


The Sheene Machine
03-18-2006, 12:21 PM
OK, I thought it would be appropriate, after giving BBA some stick these last few weeks, to review the kit I'd waited so long for until last Tuesday.

The kit is presented in the usual fashion - a sturdy plain box with a pic of the RS200 on the top. The kit totals some 70 parts and each bunch of parts are bagged together or wrapped in bubble for protection. A 4 page instruction sheet in, Portuguese and English, covering assembly using Tamiya paint codes is nicely done. The instructions also cover markings for four versions of the car - those being 1986; RAC, Swedish, Portuguese and Acropolis rallies for drivers Blomquist and Grundel.

A picture speaks a thousand words etc....so here are some shots of various parts of the kit;

two shots of the body...nice!! Only spotted one air hole to fill!
http://images9.fotki.com/v187/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0165-vi.jpg
http://images16.fotki.com/v283/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0167-vi.jpg

Front and rear views...
http://images4.fotki.com/v48/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0172-vi.jpg
http://images4.fotki.com/v47/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0173-vi.jpg

The nicely done roof air intake..
http://images1.fotki.com/v290/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0174-vi.jpg


Rear three quarter...
http://images4.fotki.com/v45/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0169-vi.jpg

The underside of the body with chassis in place. There's some cleaning up to do here. Chassis detail is not a good as some parts.

http://images16.fotki.com/v285/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0170-vi.jpg
http://images16.fotki.com/v285/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0171-vi.jpg

For comparison here's the '200' along side my WIP S4 from Ken Rally..
http://images4.fotki.com/v46/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0175-vi.jpg

...and my other in progress car the 02 Pug..
http://images16.fotki.com/v286/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0176-vi.jpg

The seats..
http://images17.fotki.com/v296/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0178-vi.jpg

Dashboard..very crisp..
http://images16.fotki.com/v284/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0179-vi.jpg

The engine block...
http://images17.fotki.com/v294/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0182_0001-vi.jpg

The wheels are excellent..these are the tarmac wheels, Bruno is also doing the snow/gravel wheels for the RAC/Swedish cars. You can of course use these for the RAC car..it ran these on the Sunday spectator stages.
http://images16.fotki.com/v3/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0184-vi.jpg
http://images1.fotki.com/v290/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0185-vi.jpg

Brake discs..very sharp, should look good in paint.
http://images17.fotki.com/v294/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0186-vi.jpg

More engine parts..these are good too unlike my photo!!
http://images17.fotki.com/v296/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0187-vi.jpg

Pedals, steering wheel and column.
http://images16.fotki.com/v283/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0190-vi.jpg

Photo etch parts..you also get some material for the belts.
http://images2.fotki.com/v292/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0192-vi.jpg

The roll cage is a combination of brass rod and resin parts..
http://images16.fotki.com/v285/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0195-vi.jpg

The decal sheet...one small error..you don't get a front plate for B200 YEV, but two B200 YOO (Portuguese car)..the sheet is very good, glossy with virtually no carrier. Excellent!
http://images12.fotki.com/v216/photos/8/823979/3345975/DSCN0196-vi.jpg

Overall the quality looks on par with most offerings from Reji and less cleaning up to do compared to my LMM Bentley. It would be difficult to comment on the fit of the parts but after some dry fitting things look good there too. The bodyshell is very good and looks just right along side the S4. I have no doubt someone will build this before I get around to it but it should look very nice when built. Inevitabley as with any resin kit there will be some cleaning up and adjustment to do so this kit is aimed at the experienced modeller.

Group B rally cars have been overlooked for too long. It's lovely to see these kits available at sensible prices. I have kit 16 of 150..so there'll not be many about. Get one while you can..highly recomended.

...Now for that Audi S1...

http://www.bbadesign.net/

SteveK2003
03-18-2006, 02:14 PM
Nice pics. Is that the RS200 that I heard guys were having trouble getting after they ordered?

At tip for the chassis/suspension: If it uses a metal axle, you can make a mount for it in the middle of the chassis, so it doesn't go through holes at the edge of the chassis or however it works. Since the axles it now supported in the center, you can trim off the outter edge of the chassis and make new suspension wishbones out of styrene and they won't have to support any weight. The metal axles can also be detailed to look like driveshafts. I am trying something similar on a Revell Dakar Touareg model.

I have an MG Metro 6R4 and Skoda Fabia coming, my first resin kits: I look forward to trying them out.

sportracer02
03-18-2006, 02:16 PM
Hi,

nice to see photos...

parts look crisp, I agree with you, but the cast at the edges isnīt good, lots of health-harming cleaning necessary (f.e. all holes in the body, bottom of the seats, engine block) :dunno:

resin tires :dunno: ,

brakes might look great when painted, but meanwhile etched discs (sometimes several parts) and separate calipers are nowadays standard in this price range :dunno:

decal sheet looks great.

BTW: sometime ago I swapped my Modelerīs RS 200 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: ;; I canīt help, but the body resembles that Modelerīs body very much. Anybody has the Modelerīs still in his model pile and can compare??

The Sheene Machine
03-18-2006, 02:37 PM
[QUOTE=SteveK2003]Nice pics. Is that the RS200 that I heard guys were having trouble getting after they ordered?

Indeed it is!

The Sheene Machine
03-18-2006, 02:48 PM
Hi,

nice to see photos...

parts look crisp, I agree with you, but the cast at the edges isnīt good, lots of health-harming cleaning necessary (f.e. all holes in the body, bottom of the seats, engine block) :dunno:

resin tires :dunno: ,

brakes might look great when painted, but meanwhile etched discs (sometimes several parts) and separate calipers are nowadays standard in this price range :dunno:

decal sheet looks great.

BTW: sometime ago I swapped my Modelerīs RS 200 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: ;; I canīt help, but the body resembles that Modelerīs body very much. Anybody has the Modelerīs still in his model pile and can compare??



Micha,
I'd agree with you on some points. Ken Rally's S4 comes with resin tyres too, but carefully painted they can look convincing. I've made some allowances for this kit - it's Bruno's first and he's looking for constructive criticism.

I did lots and lots of cleaning up on my Le Mans Miniatures Bentley - it was a real eye opener!

Price wise this thing's alot cheaper than you'd have to pay for a Modellers example but I share your view, maybe some more etch parts would bring things on a par..

I can't believe you swapped a Modellers RS???? What were you thinking!!!:grinno:

sportracer02
03-18-2006, 03:18 PM
Hi Paul,

Micha,
I'd agree with you on some points. Ken Rally's S4 comes with resin tyres too, but carefully painted they can look convincing. I've made some allowances for this kit - it's Bruno's first and he's looking for constructive criticism.


I donīt know these kits from Ken, how are they, what does he offer? Price?

You are right, resin tires can be painted and look good, when they are cast round :lol:; here it is a little advantage, that wheel and tires are separate, that helps painting



I did lots and lots of cleaning up on my Le Mans Miniatures Bentley - it was a real eye opener!

Price wise this thing's alot cheaper than you'd have to pay for a Modellers example but I share your view, maybe some more etch parts would bring things on a par..


Concernig cleaning up resin parts it is somehow funny: some companies really bring bad resin parts to the customer, but they get good critics from modelers. Other companies offer bodys, you can (nearly) prime without cleaning or fill holes - modelers find other "bad things" at those kits :dunno: . My impression: those (European??) companies that want to earn lot in a short time, bring the resin parts you have to clean the most ...

Yes, some more etched parts would have been nice...




I can't believe you swapped a Modellers RS???? What were you thinking!!!:grinno:

Oh well, it the time, I swapped, I got a -in my eyes- better kit (Model Factory Hiro, Ferrari 512 M :ylsuper: ), so I didnīt hesitate

:cheers:

SteveK2003
03-18-2006, 03:20 PM
Hi,
resin tires :dunno: ,


I dunno, I'd rather clean-up and/or paint resin tires rather than deal with rubber tires that may or may not be true and smooth.

CMTA
03-18-2006, 05:10 PM
nice!

btw what is the bba's website?

puffyrs
03-18-2006, 06:05 PM
Hi all
I to now have my model No.17
I also have a Modelers RS200 so I will check and let you all know if they are the same.

If you do have this model I have just taken over 50 photos of a works RS200
Which I will be putting on my website soon.

http://www.piczo.com/classicrallymodels?g=16453804&cr=1&rfm=y

sportracer02
03-19-2006, 02:16 AM
nice!

btw what is the bba's website?

:uhoh: ... a website of BBA :dunno:

Just click on the link in Paulīs posting and see ...

The Sheene Machine
03-19-2006, 03:27 AM
[QUOTE=sportracer02]Hi Paul,
I donīt know these kits from Ken, how are they, what does he offer? Price?




The S4 transkit is made by the Japanese modeller Kengo Nishi, known as Ken Rally. He has a good website with many superbly built GpB cars including a Totip S4 using his own transkit and a blindingly good 205 T16 Evo 2. The transkit uses the Hasegawa 037 kit floorpan, engine and suspension. You will need to contact Ken directly to see if he any left or that he can allocate one for you.. I believe he doing his 4th batch...

Check out his site for more details..

http://homepage2.nifty.com/KEN-RALLY/index.htm

The Sheene Machine
03-19-2006, 03:30 AM
Oh, forgot to mention, if any of you UK guys are going to the Modelsport show in Telford next weekend, I will be bringing the RS200 kit with me so you can see it in the flesh. Dan and I can be found on the centre table...just look for the gaggle of 1/12th stuff.:)

cfcrules
03-19-2006, 05:02 AM
How much did you pay? I can't find it anywhere on his site, it just says in stock

The Sheene Machine
03-19-2006, 07:22 AM
How much did you pay? I can't find it anywhere on his site, it just says in stock


You'll find no mention of cost specifically on the site which is why I said contact him directly!!! Use the email link on the website - ask him for cost + shipping. I used Paypal to pay him. :)

CMTA
03-20-2006, 10:23 AM
:uhoh: ... a website of BBA :dunno:

Just click on the link in Paulīs posting and see ...

oops... my bad! i didn't even see the link at the bottom of his post.

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