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Pimpdady753
03-16-2006, 07:08 PM
ok putting a 351W in my 1990 mustang, im confused on the hole fly wheal and flex plate thing, could you tell me what i need and does it matter what trans i get, i know its going to a manuel, and im going to be going with a KING COBRA CLUTCH KIT i think. thank you.

351wStang
03-16-2006, 09:11 PM
Ok, well you need the flywheel for the manual tranny, flexplate is for an auto.

The rest of that question depends on how much power your making. If you make say 300rwhp the King Cobra clutch wont exactly please you. How much power are you wanting to make? Let us know that and we can help you more.

Also, not to be a prick but when are you going to make up your mind? You change something everyday. If your ever going to get done with this build you need to make up your mind and stick with it. Just a little bit of advice from the been there done that.

Pimpdady753
03-16-2006, 11:21 PM
yeah i know, im going to say inbetween 330 and 380 or so not sure till i get it on the dino. no its rated at 400hp aint it, thats what i thought tho.

Pimpdady753
03-16-2006, 11:38 PM
i remmeber when i first started i was going to make a 600hp streat crazy car, but i now relize why you told me its going to be harder then i thought, and it is, so im going to start small and im going to go with this engine.

351 engine - performance 380 hp* 405 ft lbs tq
block-------------------------------351 bored .030
crank-----------------------------351 turned .010
rods-----------------------------stock ford (C9AE)
pistons------------------------------KB racing .030
rings----------------------------hastings cast .030
bearings----------------------------clevite 77 .010
gaskets--------------------------------------fel- pro
bolts--------------------------------------stock ford
oil pump--------------------------------melling M-83
heads-----------------------------ported '86 - '93
valves-------------------------1.78/1.54 reground
camshaft---------------------292/.512 flat tappet
lifters--------------------------------------hydraulic
timing chain-------------------cloyes double roller
pushrods--------------------------------------stock
rockers----------------------------------------stock
timing cover----------------------------stock ford
oil pan-----------------------------------stock ford
valve covers---------------------------------stock
damper-------------------------------stock 28 oz

Vic Jr intake
650 or 700dp Carburator
Mr. Gasket Street Scoop II
msd Blaster 3 coil
MSD Dist
not sure on the fuel pump not sure what size to get, any suggestions.

Allready have this stuff
Q and A new k Member and arms
MSD 6AL ignition
KBX i think adjustibl struts
bbk cast camer plates
coil over kit
Duel 200amp Alt
and power stearing pump


ill be ordering the engine bye the end of this month.

351wStang
03-17-2006, 06:43 AM
I still say KB pistons suck, but do what ya gotta do i guess. Stay with the 650dp. It will give you a better signal and will be easier to tune.

Pimpdady753
03-17-2006, 11:42 AM
ok thanks ill go with the 650 what about the clutch, does it handle 400hp or did i read it wrong, thanks

351wStang
03-17-2006, 05:00 PM
I didnt see anywhere that said 400hp. I just saw street - mild strip. To my that means maybe 300. I'd suggest a Spec Stage II clutch kit. I think that with the King Cobra clutch you will see alot of clutch slip when launching and at higher rpms. Sure the King Cobra kit is cheap, but do it right the first time and buy something that will last. As soon as you half ass something on a build like this you will be replacing stuff in no time.

Pimpdady753
03-18-2006, 01:07 AM
ok i must have seen it wrong, thanks, some one told me the spec stage II clutch is going to be really hard to drive on tho i thought, ether its on or off or its ether go like a bat out of hell or stalling it. that was my first choice of cluch tho thanks.

Pimpdady753
03-18-2006, 06:34 AM
last thing what about the fuel pump any suggestion on how big i need to go thank you.

351wStang
03-18-2006, 09:26 AM
ok i must have seen it wrong, thanks, some one told me the spec stage II clutch is going to be really hard to drive on tho i thought, ether its on or off or its ether go like a bat out of hell or stalling it. that was my first choice of cluch tho thanks.

Your talking about the Spec stage III. It is a grab 'n go clutch.
The Spec II is much more street friendly. Google it and read about it, see what you think.

351wStang
03-18-2006, 10:00 AM
last thing what about the fuel pump any suggestion on how big i need to go thank you.

If your going manual on the pump here: EDL-1715 This pump is about the closest I could find that would provide enough fuel. You always want to pump too much fuel, not too little. You use a fuel pressure regulator to regulate fuel flow to the carb, but you keep plenty of fuel ready if you need it at the same time.

If your going electricon the pump here: AEI-11203 This pump should do it for you. It has the pressure you will need and pumps enough fuel mass for your motor.

Stay away from the Holley pumps.

Now, DO NOT try to run either of those pumps without a fuel pressure regulator! Try this regulator AEI-13301 Its good stuff and wont let ya down. Just leave the boost/vacuum port open and run it. Just remember the port on the bottom of the regulator is for your return.

I would suggest calling the Aeromotive Tech line. Summit can give you that number if you cant find it online. Just tell them your combo and what you want to do with the car. They can either suggest you something or you can ask about the parts I have suggested. If for some reason you want to run that manual pump be sure and ask if their reg will work with it. I've never had to choose a high performance fuel system for a smaller motor & N/A. So I went off of what I know lol. If I where you though I'd buy the Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump and 13204 fuel pressure regulator and be done with it. But that pump is $300 and reg is $150.

AltecZX2
03-18-2006, 11:50 AM
Spec Stage 2's are awsome, i know they are quality...thats what most of the Escorts that are making 300+HP are using......

If their Escort versin holds that much I wouldnt be at all surprised if the Musstang version can take 600 with rather ease.

They also feel very nice when driving...unlike Centerforce.

351wStang
03-18-2006, 12:05 PM
Well maybe not 600....but otherwise :thumbsup:

Pimpdady753
03-18-2006, 08:00 PM
ok my bad, thanks alot, ill up date you in a little while with pics and stuff. thanks alot.

Pimpdady753
04-10-2006, 01:10 AM
ok got my engine this weekend and im probbully going to go with that electric fuel pump and reglitor you showed me, but now i need to know how much fuel lines i will need and stuff, thank you i have a edlebrock 4bl Carb

351wStang
04-10-2006, 04:10 PM
Hmm Edelbrock carbs only have a single inlet correct? Which carb did you get? The 600cfm Performer? Plumbing the fuel system depends on if your running the stock tank or a cell, what regulator you go with, and the carb. Are you going with the A1000 & 13204? Which electric pump & reg did you mean? It would be wise to call the Aeromotive Tech Line and talk to Brett. He knows the products very well and will be able to tell you for sure what you need. I know the A1000 & 13204 will work for you, but he may be able to suggest something cheaper.

Pimpdady753
04-10-2006, 06:36 PM
i am going to go with the AEI-11203 and for the regulator AEI-13301, its 600cfm edlbrock performer carb, and i will be useing the stock fuel tank for now, ive ben looking at kits on summit but there is so many and i dont know how many feet i will need, also do i have to run a return line or no. thanks alot, ill have pics in a little while of the engine.

351wStang
04-10-2006, 08:24 PM
Ok, that regulator I just realized has NPT (pipe) threads instead of -AN threads. So, if your set on useing that reg then you will need to buy fittings that convert from NPT to -AN or NPT to Hose barb, depending on the fuel line you want to use. Do a search for Dman on TM.com, he can get you the pushloc stuff that alot of people are going to now. Just depends on how much $$ you have to spend on your fuel system.

BTW: I bought 40' of -10AN for feed & return, as well as 6' of -8AN to feed carb bowks from reg. Then I bought 3' or -3AN teflon lined hose to use instead of the regular vacuum hose that cracks.

Oh, and I only got 40' of -10AN because it came in 20' rolls and I'd rather have 5' extra then be 1' too short.

Pimpdady753
04-11-2006, 12:33 AM
is this a good regulator http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEROMOTIVE-CARBURATED-ADJ-FUEL-PRESSURE-REGULATOR_W0QQitemZ8054079911QQcategoryZ33553QQssP ageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aeromotive-A4-Fuel-Pressure-Regulator-13204_W0QQitemZ8054934938QQcategoryZ33553QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thanks.

351wStang
04-11-2006, 09:48 PM
The second one is a good reg. I havent talked to anyone who has used the first one.

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