Initial D f**ked up

Finally a car-anime crossover thread, if you've seen fourth stage, you'll remember the race with God Hand, he drives the S2000 and holds his hand on the shifter for the duration of the race.

I just learned in auto class that doing this may look 'cool' but It puts unneeded stress on the clutch. Does anyone else think this? Why would initial D promote something like that...I thought they knew all about driving...

They screw up a lot. Do you really think a drifing 86 is faster than an rx7, s2k, r32, or any of the ohter cars he's raced?

Uh, yeah. Its not just a TV show. There is some truth behind it. See, mountain roads are narrow and have small tight turns. The only reason the AE86 wins usually is because the fact one its lighter and because well takumi is just a better driver than most of the people he's raced at first. There is one fake thing in initial d. The gutter technique. I think that'd be impossible.

I don't see how holding the shifter would effect the clutch unless you were applying pressure to it. BTW it's a cartoon for god sake

I don't see how holding the shifter would effect the clutch unless you were applying pressure to it. BTW it's a cartoon for god sake

gee, why are you here?? this is the anime forum LOL
where was I...because Initial D is very realistic at times, sometimes not at all, Takumi used to win because the other racers let him win, but now he wins with extreme skill, like turning off his headlights and being a natural in the rain, much like a rally driver. But the car that Takumi drives revs to 11k rpms, with a toyota race engine.

you don't think an old man that holds onto a shifter all of the time doesn't apply any pressure at all?

gee, why are you here?? this is the anime forum LOL
where was I...because Initial D is very realistic at times, sometimes not at all, Takumi used to win because the other racers let him win, but now he wins with extreme skill, like turning off his headlights and being a natural in the rain, much like a rally driver. But the car that Takumi drives revs to 11k rpms, with a toyota race engine.

you don't think an old man that holds onto a shifter all of the time doesn't apply any pressure at all?
no it wouldn't. i can shift then hold onto the shifter all the time without applying any pressure just slightly gripping it... you think that isn't possible? :screwy:

All right everyone, calm down. Take a deep breath, let it in, let it out. It's not an educational show (entirely), it is for entertainment. Just because they didn't draw the dude with both hands on the wheel, doesn't mean they don't know, doesn't mean it matters. They drew him like they did for an image they wanted to portray. Why? I don't know, that's how life works.

As for many of the races, explain this real life scenario:

My friend in his STOCK WRX (not STi) beat a modded SRT-4. With the weight difference and work done, the SRT-4 should have easily won, why didn't it? Driving ability is so important. No one realizes that you could have 15,000,000,000 WHP and lose to a go-cart if you can't drive.

What my problem with the scene, or the character themself, was that the creators of the Initial D show/comic were portraying that's it's cool to do that, put stress on the clutch, think about how many people(kids, teens, even adults) see a 'GOD' driver in initial D driving this way, and they go out and do the same thing. It's not a healthy image for people who care about their cars.

As for how much stress is too much, i don't know and I understand sometimes you gotta hold that shift nob, but why all the time? Why purposely?

What my problem with the scene, or the character themself, was that the creators of the Initial D show/comic were portraying that's it's cool to do that, put stress on the clutch, think about how many people(kids, teens, even adults) see a 'GOD' driver in initial D driving this way, and they go out and do the same thing. It's not a healthy image for people who care about their cars.

As for how much stress is too much, i don't know and I understand sometimes you gotta hold that shift nob, but why all the time? Why purposely?

Do you not understand yet? I can keep my hand on the shifter without doing anything to the clutch just like I can keep my foot on the gas pedal without pressing the gas. How hard is it for you to understand that?

Well, I understand...Anywho. Takumi wins from sheer luck. All the damn time. Not once has he not gotten a break. I mean a wins a win. But, against the race with the s2k he fucked his suspension up. Then all of a sudden after Takumi was sure he was gonna lose. God Hand pulls over and throws up. ?
Coincedence?...

Well, I understand...Anywho. Takumi wins from sheer luck. All the damn time. Not once has he not gotten a break. I mean a wins a win. But, against the race with the s2k he fucked his suspension up. Then all of a sudden after Takumi was sure he was gonna lose. God Hand pulls over and throws up. ?
Coincedence?...

lol...didn't know that episode came out yet, thanks, now i gotta see it!

Oops..sorry didnt mean to ruin it for you. Fun as hell to watch. God Hand is pro. I wish my dad were a kick ass driver and showed me the ropes.

maybe god hand puts the left hand on the shifter to bless it? jk. :lol:

seriously, for better transition times during gear changes as his hand is already on the shifter and no need to move it from the wheel to shifter.

best scene was with keisuke and god foot's cone duel.

Maybe it does, Maybe it doest. You know why, cause its fiction. Someone please try out this technique and tell us how it goes. LOL J/K

Maybe it does, Maybe it doest. You know why, cause its fiction. Someone please try out this technique and tell us how it goes. LOL J/K

I'll do it! apparently I LOVE fixing broken cars

I was simply stating that in an endurance race it's not smart to apply even more pressure to the clutch. It shakes rattles and rolls for a reason. The shift knob is broken .....


... wait sec that's my car

i dont see how holding the shifter would put any stress on the clutch. i think whoever said that constantly holding the shifter will put un-necessary stress on the clutch was talking crap. the only way you'd put un-necessary stress on the clutch would be to clutch kick, high-rev clutch drops, too much torque through a clutch that can't handle it or to do something like put the car in high gear and pop the clutch at high revs, with the car at a low speed.

i dont see how holding the shifter would put any stress on the clutch. i think whoever said that constantly holding the shifter will put un-necessary stress on the clutch was talking crap. the only way you'd put un-necessary stress on the clutch would be to clutch kick, high-rev clutch drops, too much torque through a clutch that can't handle it or to do something like put the car in high gear and pop the clutch at high revs, with the car at a low speed.

Alright well what if you were to push down on the shifter, straight down against the gearbox while you were driving. What would that do?

And-- the anime portrays holding the shifter all the time to be a good and natural thing, not everyone knows about clutches, so they might mess up and think it's cool to keep their hand on the shifter and push down on it at times, not knowing what they're doing.

If i'm wrong, I'm wrong but i think everyone was misunderstanding me

cool.....just saw it for the 1st time today on demand(episode 4 and 5)........what channel is it on and when does it come on?

don't care, I get the fansubs XD

in Japan, each episode takes a while to get made so it's not on regularly, but it's over now anyway.

ok

the whole "resting your hand on the shifter causing clutch damage" thing.

it won't damage the clutch at all.

what it will do is wear out the shift forks and syncro collars in the transmission. it makes perfect sense if you think about it. the forks that actually slide the syncro collars and lock a gear to to the shaft are in contact with the syncro collars. the only thing that keeps the rotating syncro from wearing metal to metal with the fork that rides on it is a thin coating of gear lube. this lube is easily driven out by adding weight on the shifter (like resting your hand)

it will cause premature syncro and shift fork wear.

you will never see a proffessional driver resting his arm on the shifter. not even rally drivers who are shifting constantly.

initial d does kick ass, but is far from being 100% accurate.

I just learned in auto class that doing this may look 'cool' but It puts unneeded stress on the clutch. Does anyone else think this? Why would initial D promote something like that...I thought they knew all about driving...
Racing puts unneeded stress on the engine. People still do it. It's a work of fiction and not meant to be an instructional video. Just enjoy it for what it is.

Btw, how are you guys seeing the other seasons? The farthest I got was when he raced the Turbo Eight-Six, and even then I missed a bunch before that race.

If you want to watch third of fourth stage, in really good quality, look around for complete boxsets.

any body know how good the box stage 4 sets are on ebay?

any body know how good the box stage 4 sets are on ebay?

If you can find it on amazon also, it's good quality. I got an amazing Outlaw Star boxset with the japanese uncut and english dubbed uncut episodes, from one of the million amazon sellers stores.

Initial D rules, takumi is awesome, and th hachi-roku is a great car...

Hey, what d'ya think about this concept: http://www.menintouch.com/blog/bmws-textile-fabric-skinned-concept-car/