New Comaro will be made in Canada
Chevy_Man52
03-11-2006, 07:53 PM
New CAMARO, THAT IS!
GM Canada workers vote to accept job cuts: union Fri Mar 10, 11:33 PM ET
TORONTO (Reuters) - Workers at General Motors (NYSE:GM - news) of Canada Ltd. assembly plants in Oshawa, Ontario voted in favor of job cuts on Friday, in a moved aimed at securing new investment, including a contract to build GM's new Chevrolet Camaro, the union said.
The Canadian Auto Workers union said production members of Local 222 voted 74 percent in favor of a cost-saving agreement while skilled trade workers voted 70 percent in favor.
The vote means employees at three Oshawa assembly plants will accept some job losses -- which could number as many as 2,500 -- to avoid the possibility that GM will shut down two car assembly plants, and to give the plants a shot at landing new investments.
"Some very difficult decisions have been made, not only by the union leadership, but by our members as well," Chris Buckley, president of CAW Local 222, said in a statement.
General Motors has said Oshawa's No. 2 plant will close in 2008 when assembly of the Pontiac Grand Prix and Buick LaCrosse/Allure comes to a halt. The No. 1 plant is set to lose assembly of its Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala models in 2009.
But the CAW says turning Oshawa's two car factories into one flexible assembly plant that can produce different vehicles would better position GM Canada to secure as much as C$800 million ($701 million) in new investment from General Motors.
GM Canada workers vote to accept job cuts: union Fri Mar 10, 11:33 PM ET
TORONTO (Reuters) - Workers at General Motors (NYSE:GM - news) of Canada Ltd. assembly plants in Oshawa, Ontario voted in favor of job cuts on Friday, in a moved aimed at securing new investment, including a contract to build GM's new Chevrolet Camaro, the union said.
The Canadian Auto Workers union said production members of Local 222 voted 74 percent in favor of a cost-saving agreement while skilled trade workers voted 70 percent in favor.
The vote means employees at three Oshawa assembly plants will accept some job losses -- which could number as many as 2,500 -- to avoid the possibility that GM will shut down two car assembly plants, and to give the plants a shot at landing new investments.
"Some very difficult decisions have been made, not only by the union leadership, but by our members as well," Chris Buckley, president of CAW Local 222, said in a statement.
General Motors has said Oshawa's No. 2 plant will close in 2008 when assembly of the Pontiac Grand Prix and Buick LaCrosse/Allure comes to a halt. The No. 1 plant is set to lose assembly of its Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala models in 2009.
But the CAW says turning Oshawa's two car factories into one flexible assembly plant that can produce different vehicles would better position GM Canada to secure as much as C$800 million ($701 million) in new investment from General Motors.
Savage Messiah
03-12-2006, 04:36 AM
Check your sources... the Delaware plant is just about ready to begin production on them...
Savage Messiah
03-12-2006, 04:38 AM
Oh and it's cAmaro godfuckingdamnit
1986Z28
03-13-2006, 02:09 PM
lol, anyways i hope its made in canada, CANADA RULES
SG007
03-13-2006, 02:32 PM
learn how to spell, eh?
chevy_chic20041
03-13-2006, 02:35 PM
i thought the canada plant closed?
wrightz28
03-13-2006, 02:36 PM
lol, anyways i hope its made in canada, CANADA RULES
Or in this case, made in Kanehduh :twak:
Or in this case, made in Kanehduh :twak:
666_speed
03-13-2006, 04:35 PM
i couldn't care less where it's made, as long as it's made
Link85x
03-13-2006, 04:41 PM
^Exactly!!!
FireFox05
03-13-2006, 06:43 PM
^Same.
Savage Messiah
03-14-2006, 12:44 AM
i thought the canada plant closed?
I believe so... knocked down.
The new Camaros will be made in Delaware.
I believe so... knocked down.
The new Camaros will be made in Delaware.
cuda_dude
03-14-2006, 02:25 AM
GM to Invest $2.5 Billion in Canadian Operations
March 8, 2005 -- GM of Canada announced a $2,500,000,000 reinvestment in GM’s Canadian operations, representing the largest and most comprehensive automotive investment in Canadian history. GM Canada will proceed with major investments in new vehicle and engine technology at its operations in Oshawa, St. Catharines and the CAMI joint venture in Ingersoll, Ontario.
The company confirmed that its Oshawa Car Plant 1 will build the 2006 model year Chevrolet Impala and Chevrolet Monte Carlo and the CAMI Automotive joint venture will build the all new 2006 Pontiac Torrent compact SUV. GM ****Canada will also introduce an all new application of the fuel-efficient “Displacement-on-Demand” V-8 engine to be built at its St. Catharines Powertrain plant. **** ....... the new application they speak of could very well be the camaro + the delaware plant is tooled to build the solstice... who knows though
March 8, 2005 -- GM of Canada announced a $2,500,000,000 reinvestment in GM’s Canadian operations, representing the largest and most comprehensive automotive investment in Canadian history. GM Canada will proceed with major investments in new vehicle and engine technology at its operations in Oshawa, St. Catharines and the CAMI joint venture in Ingersoll, Ontario.
The company confirmed that its Oshawa Car Plant 1 will build the 2006 model year Chevrolet Impala and Chevrolet Monte Carlo and the CAMI Automotive joint venture will build the all new 2006 Pontiac Torrent compact SUV. GM ****Canada will also introduce an all new application of the fuel-efficient “Displacement-on-Demand” V-8 engine to be built at its St. Catharines Powertrain plant. **** ....... the new application they speak of could very well be the camaro + the delaware plant is tooled to build the solstice... who knows though
Jaguar D-Type
03-14-2006, 03:05 AM
Here is the link to the Reuters article
http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-03-11T043347Z_01_N10279863_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-AUTOS-GM-CANADA-COL.XML
http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-03-11T043347Z_01_N10279863_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-AUTOS-GM-CANADA-COL.XML
Savage Messiah
03-14-2006, 11:17 AM
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26728&highlight=camaro+delaware
As for when we can expect the new Camaro, that seems to no longer be a secret. Seems after not even wanting to talk about the possibility of a new Camaro for over 3 years, it's now the only thing GM seems to want to talk about. Bob Lutz is almost bursting at the seams trying not to say too much. Ed Welburn himself publically said Camaro could be done very quickly if approved. My own sources say Camaro will likely be out quicker than anyone expects once given the go ahead. Why?
Typically, a concept is given to focus groups and the results are sent back to designers and engineers numerous times for changes. Bob Lutz already said there would be no aditional focus groups for Camaro... "if approved".
Next, as most of you noticed, there was already an extremely detailed CAD of the chassis. The underhood work was done over 2 years ago. This is perhaps the most complete "Concept Car" in automotive history.
Finally, under normal conditions, a new car needs to wait for an existing vehicle to run it's course before the plant is converted. GM has excess capacity, so it's not going to put a car in a plant that's too big for it (as was done with the 4th gen). Logic would dictate that a coupe would be made on the same assembly line as the sedan it's based on (ie: Monte Carlo & Impala) to protect it against fluxuations in the coupe market. However, when GM announced that it's closing one of it's Oshawa Canada plants, and Bob Lutz announced that Camaro "If approved" (again, that disclaimer) would not be made in Canada. That left only one plant.
Wilmington Delaware used to make the Saturn L. It's capable of making over 200,000 cars per year. When the Saturn L was killed, it seemed odd that GM would assign the Kappa (Solstice, Sky, & the Opel GT) to that factory, especially since combined, it only is projected to make 35-40K vehicles per year. The F-body's Ste. Therese plant operated at 33% capacity and was closed as GM's most underutilized plant (Wilmington with Kappa uses about 15% capacity).
Wilmington also has the entire Saturn L machinary still intact (Solstice uses only a small portion of the plant). With an expected 120-150,000 Zeta coupes planned, that will bring the plant up to full capacity. In short, all GM has to do is grant the budget, and the conversion begins.
As for when we can expect the new Camaro, that seems to no longer be a secret. Seems after not even wanting to talk about the possibility of a new Camaro for over 3 years, it's now the only thing GM seems to want to talk about. Bob Lutz is almost bursting at the seams trying not to say too much. Ed Welburn himself publically said Camaro could be done very quickly if approved. My own sources say Camaro will likely be out quicker than anyone expects once given the go ahead. Why?
Typically, a concept is given to focus groups and the results are sent back to designers and engineers numerous times for changes. Bob Lutz already said there would be no aditional focus groups for Camaro... "if approved".
Next, as most of you noticed, there was already an extremely detailed CAD of the chassis. The underhood work was done over 2 years ago. This is perhaps the most complete "Concept Car" in automotive history.
Finally, under normal conditions, a new car needs to wait for an existing vehicle to run it's course before the plant is converted. GM has excess capacity, so it's not going to put a car in a plant that's too big for it (as was done with the 4th gen). Logic would dictate that a coupe would be made on the same assembly line as the sedan it's based on (ie: Monte Carlo & Impala) to protect it against fluxuations in the coupe market. However, when GM announced that it's closing one of it's Oshawa Canada plants, and Bob Lutz announced that Camaro "If approved" (again, that disclaimer) would not be made in Canada. That left only one plant.
Wilmington Delaware used to make the Saturn L. It's capable of making over 200,000 cars per year. When the Saturn L was killed, it seemed odd that GM would assign the Kappa (Solstice, Sky, & the Opel GT) to that factory, especially since combined, it only is projected to make 35-40K vehicles per year. The F-body's Ste. Therese plant operated at 33% capacity and was closed as GM's most underutilized plant (Wilmington with Kappa uses about 15% capacity).
Wilmington also has the entire Saturn L machinary still intact (Solstice uses only a small portion of the plant). With an expected 120-150,000 Zeta coupes planned, that will bring the plant up to full capacity. In short, all GM has to do is grant the budget, and the conversion begins.
Rally Sport
03-14-2006, 02:13 PM
Very interesting.
666_speed
03-14-2006, 02:46 PM
yep
PS3Camaro
03-14-2006, 05:53 PM
as it was said b4, who cares where, as long as it's being made
malletslinger
03-14-2006, 07:14 PM
:iagree: How cares aboot where they are made, eh? Its all aboot gett'n em made so they can be sent to US, eh?
malletslinger
03-14-2006, 07:17 PM
Does anyone know if they have strict paint laws in Canada? When the camaro's were made in CA. they had to use water based paint, hense the crappy paint that just didnt last...
I hope the new ones will come with paint jobs that'll outlast the tires.lol
I hope the new ones will come with paint jobs that'll outlast the tires.lol
97cavalier
03-14-2006, 10:04 PM
Does anyone know if they have strict paint laws in Canada? When the camaro's were made in CA. they had to use water based paint, hense the crappy paint that just didnt last...
I hope the new ones will come with paint jobs that'll outlast the tires.lol
well with the new camaro that would only be one day the paint would have to last,lol
I hope the new ones will come with paint jobs that'll outlast the tires.lol
well with the new camaro that would only be one day the paint would have to last,lol
malletslinger
03-14-2006, 10:10 PM
well with the new camaro that would only be one day the paint would have to last,lol
OK then...What kind of tires do you use?...I think that would be a good stockmarket investment for me to make just before the new maro comes out...You burn rubber, and Ill make enough to buy a new maro of my own.lol
OK then...What kind of tires do you use?...I think that would be a good stockmarket investment for me to make just before the new maro comes out...You burn rubber, and Ill make enough to buy a new maro of my own.lol
malletslinger
03-14-2006, 10:16 PM
I just realized something...I havnt heard anything about a new Fbird yet...
Does the revivel of the Camaro implys the same for the Firebird, or is GM just going to drop it?
Does the revivel of the Camaro implys the same for the Firebird, or is GM just going to drop it?
97cavalier
03-14-2006, 10:20 PM
there will be no firebird, just the camaro and gto. And i was say about what you said the paint last as long as the tires, if i had a new camaro, the tires would be gone in one day from burning them off,lol
malletslinger
03-14-2006, 10:26 PM
I understood what you were saying, thats why I asked what tires you like so I can buy stock in them.lol:grinyes:
97cavalier
03-14-2006, 10:28 PM
oh,lol what ever comes stock on them. They will probly be some bfg's or goodyear.
Savage Messiah
03-15-2006, 03:04 AM
Firebird is DEAD, GONE, FOREVER BURIED. It's annoying that I knwo a few pontiacguys that keep bitching about how they shoudl make it... if it wasnt so late I'd go into logistics but lets leave it for now at Camaro owns firebird, hard.
666_speed
03-15-2006, 09:42 AM
It's annoying that I knwo a few pontiacguys that keep bitching about how they shoudl make it...
i hated all the bitching too about how they should make the camaro again, don't get me wrong, it is cool but still. i think when somethings retired it should just go away, i hate when athletes retire and come back and officially anounce their retirement 14 times...i don't buy camaro's for the name, it's for the car, if they called it a shitbox i'd still buy it if i liked it. all the bitching by the camaro enthusiasts sucked too.
i hated all the bitching too about how they should make the camaro again, don't get me wrong, it is cool but still. i think when somethings retired it should just go away, i hate when athletes retire and come back and officially anounce their retirement 14 times...i don't buy camaro's for the name, it's for the car, if they called it a shitbox i'd still buy it if i liked it. all the bitching by the camaro enthusiasts sucked too.
malletslinger
03-15-2006, 12:44 PM
I was just curious...I really could care less about Fbirds because a Fbird is nothing but a camaro with more of a fufu look.
A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.lol
A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.lol
Jaguar D-Type
03-15-2006, 04:55 PM
There will be no new Firebird. Pontiac will have a new GTO, the Solstice, and the 260 hp Solstice GXP. They need a Solstice coupe.
97cavalier
03-15-2006, 05:16 PM
they should do a supercharged ls1 in the camaro or a supercharged 5.3 GM needs some more suprcharged cars, so we can go fuck with the cobras.lol
Savage Messiah
03-16-2006, 01:39 AM
LS1?? Ummm yea 2002 was 4 years ago, there will be an LS2 as there was in the concept car...
666, it was never retired, it was put "on hiatus" ;) lol
666, it was never retired, it was put "on hiatus" ;) lol
97cavalier
03-16-2006, 10:48 PM
i think about it more and more and i think the ls7 should go in, wow that would be fast then!!
666_speed
03-16-2006, 11:16 PM
666, it was never retired, it was put "on hiatus" ;) lol
i know, but still, once something is gone i wish it would stay gone...just my 2 cents...and all the bitching got the camaro back into gm's mind, maybe with enough bitching the firebird will be thought of again...dunno
i know, but still, once something is gone i wish it would stay gone...just my 2 cents...and all the bitching got the camaro back into gm's mind, maybe with enough bitching the firebird will be thought of again...dunno
Savage Messiah
03-17-2006, 02:18 AM
Nope. Camaro was never out of their mind, they just knew it had to be totally redone. Just like how the GTO is being temp. discontinued after this model year for a couple years.
Jaguar D-Type
03-17-2006, 02:31 AM
i think about it more and more and i think the ls7 should go in, wow that would be fast then!!
But the new LS7 is hand-built and has dry-sump lubrication in the new Corvette Z06.
But the new LS7 is hand-built and has dry-sump lubrication in the new Corvette Z06.
666_speed
03-17-2006, 08:12 AM
Nope. Camaro was never out of their mind, they just knew it had to be totally redone. Just like how the GTO is being temp. discontinued after this model year for a couple years.
when something gets to the point where it totally needs redone so badly that it gets pulled from the lineup, i think it should stay gone...like michael jordan, undoubtedly one of the best basketball players of all time, but he could only retire so many times before i just wanted to kick him in the nuts. bring back the affordable performance rwd car, like the camaro was, and give it a new name in my opinion...
when something gets to the point where it totally needs redone so badly that it gets pulled from the lineup, i think it should stay gone...like michael jordan, undoubtedly one of the best basketball players of all time, but he could only retire so many times before i just wanted to kick him in the nuts. bring back the affordable performance rwd car, like the camaro was, and give it a new name in my opinion...
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