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why do all XR8 drivers insist on draging me when they know they will get beaten no sorry thrashed!!! have they no idea that RWD V8 is no match for a 4WD twin turbo six.

Maybe YOUR "rwd v8" is no match for them, but those cars sound quick.

V8? I thought all skylines had an RB26DETT in them, an Inline 6 engine? Maybe thats just an R34 but who knows

Originally posted by R34GTRVspec2
V8? I thought all skylines had an RB26DETT in them, an Inline 6 engine? Maybe thats just an R34 but who knows

Yea, I don't know of any v8 skylines :bloated:

I'm 99.9% positive that all the older Skylines had I6's...

-Grendel

wait a minute... I just noticed the wording of his post... he wasn't saying he's got a RWD V8, he's say that a RWD V8 is no match for an I6, ok, my bad...:bloated:

so your skyline could beat a top fuel dragser?

Ford-
Patty Lyons Dragster
514 Cid Ford Crate Engine
8.90 ET-155mph

Fast Eddie Lyons
416 Cid RDI small block
6.27 ET-218 mph

now please, shut off the ignorance box (your mouth)

Oh wait, maby you will now say street?

Jerry Green "casper"
2000 SVT Lightning, ford racing modified
12.42 ET- 108

Rich Roback
Project 392 small block 98 Mustang
670 HP
10.10 ET-135mph

4wd gives good traction, but you loose power, as your putting all your power to 4 wheels, instead of two.
Your inline 6 TT is nice, but there will always be something more powerfull who can come around and beat you.

You ever seen a Tricked out RB26DETT, those little inlines can get over 1000HP

Don't beleive me?

http://ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au/~white15/content/newercars.html

now... what happens if you lighten the car? your talking sub 8s or sub 7s if you do it right

I have a friend with a street legal 1150 hp 68 Chevelle, RWD :flipa:

and... how much does that car weight? too much? thought so

sure I love V8s, mostly the 289, but I wouldn't challenge a tricked out Skyline for money, I don't care how many HP i have, unless its over 1500

You have to feel sorry for XR8 drivers really.

Even my little SiR walks on them, so I hate to think of the gap a GTR must open up! :silly2: :silly2:

:smoka:

his chevelle weighs 2900

body is mostly fiberglass, whats left of it, no interior basically.

there is always something faster, there will be some skyline faster than his chevelle, there will be a faster nova, then there will be some faster rx-7, then a faster mustang...etc...etc

the point being, he said -no v8 rwd can match is inline 6 awd-

so what are you arguing?

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity


the point being, he said -no v8 rwd can match is inline 6 awd-

so what are you arguing?

I think your just reading way way to much into his comment.

lol, probally, but I was having fun with it too :D

There's a road legal four pot 2 litre donk with one hairdryer that has put away the Skyline GTR, Ferraris, Porsches and a couple of rally specials (Evo 6 1/2 Tommi Makkinen Special and WRX STi).

A road legal Toyota 3SGTTE powered Fraser Clubman ran 0-100-0 km/h (or 0-62-0 mph) in 6.6 seconds - 0-100 in 3.7 seconds 100-0 in 2.9 seconds in a comparison run by NZ Autocar Magazine in 2000 using Correvit timing equipment.

Something like 400hp and a 700kg (about 1550lbs) car equals serious power to weight and 3.7 seconds to 100 clicks is ZZR-1100 territory. Oh yeah, it's rear wheel drive and runs on 15 inch treaded tyres too... It's quicker on slicks...

By the way, the GTR was the second quickest road legal car in the 0-100-0 test with an overall time in the 7 second bracket.

Originally posted by replicant_008


A road legal Toyota 3SGTTE powered Fraser Clubman


That car rocked!!!!!!!
And I mean rocked! :ylsuper

Unforunatly the light weight and instant power when it got on boost made it a bit of handle full to drive, and the 3sgte has been dropped for an old V6 from a ford Crapi. Less hp, but its almost as quick, and since theres no Turbo lag, then sudden boost, its a lot faster around corners!

However, there is a Video of it with the 3sgte that they show at most of the car shows, or you can see it at the Frazer Factory (which is an awsome place) which shows it being given full throttle mid corner on a long fast sweeper. The back end just lights up, and the car does one very VERY fast 180.

The 3SGTE powered Fraser and the V6 powered Fraser are actually two different cars. (How do I know - I helped out with putting together the 3SGTE powered car).

The 3SGTE powered car now has a even bigger turbocharger and is running more boost. It will be racing again in Clubman every so often but will be mostly campaigning in NZ Super GT on slicks...

The V6 chassis you may see at the factory actually is a Mazda twin cam (ex 626 and Telstar) and was not out of a 'Crapi'. Incidentally, this is the same engine series used in the Radisich TOCA British Touring Car Mondeo - even though the road car used and still uses an American made Duratec-VE V6. Incidentally, the V6 car has some very lightweight transmission and diff bits too.

The question of which car is faster through corners is pretty unresolved as far as I'm aware. The 3SGTE has only raced a few times at the same meetings as the V6. The last time which was in the wet at Pukekohe the turbo won convincingly but it's a power circuit. The 3SGTE also runs slicks in one series and treaded tyres in another...

And the last time the two cars were at Taupo - the turbo car had some transmission problems preventing a full test session.

So a Rear Wheel Drive V8 can't compete against a Skyline. I almost died laughing so hard. How about a 1994 Ford Mustang with a 90 degree OHV Boss 429 V8 that puts out 855HP & 790lbs ft. This car runs 0-60 in 1.9 sec. and 0-100 in 5.5 sec. with a quarter mile time of 10.55sec @ 135mph. Sorry, I forgot a major part of these stats, these numbers were accomplished in Denver, Colorado where the elevation is around 5200 ft. (mile above sea level) Lets see if a Skyline can run thoughs times here at this altitude. Can a Skyline handle that, didn't think so! When people state facts that are not true, it just makes them look pathetic. Thanks for the laugh everyone! Sorry if I damaged anyones ego's, but I just wanted to set the world straight.

the XR8 in australia are preety quick specially the racing ones ....BUt nothing faster than my Skyline with over 789hp include NOS x2 so i would like to drag all of yous:flipa:

So Go Team has 789HP, What about torque? What about 0-60 time? What is the 0-100 time? How about 1/4 mile time? So you have NOS X2, sure it helps get your Skyline to 789HP. This Stang in my previous column is without Nos, Turbo or a Supercharger. 90Degree OHV Boss 429 V8 (Ford big block V8 power) in a 94 Stang. I highly doubt your Skyline can eclipse the numbers put up by this car at 5200 ft elevation (Denver, Colorado, USA). This is located in the Rocky Mountains at Bandimere Speedway. I'm sorry to see that you're in denial of the truth. Kind of like someone before going to AA meetings. Once again I have been given a laugh by someone elses lack of research or lack of knowledge regarding elevation and performance. Thanks

Originally posted by replicant_008
The 3SGTE powered Fraser and the V6 powered Fraser are actually two different cars. (How do I know - I helped out with putting together the 3SGTE powered car).


Ahhh cool. I had wondered.

However there is one with a Capri V6 in it.
It was at the Fraser car stand at the Hamilton car show at the start of this year.
The little ford unit is pretty easy to spot, plus it had a little bourd in frount of it with the cars specs including engine type. :)




and "Go Team": Grow up. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by V8X
So a Rear Wheel Drive V8 can't compete against a Skyline. I almost died laughing so hard. How about a 1994 Ford Mustang with a 90 degree OHV Boss 429 V8 that puts out 855HP & 790lbs ft. This car runs 0-60 in 1.9 sec. and 0-100 in 5.5 sec. with a quarter mile time of 10.55sec @ 135mph. Sorry, I forgot a major part of these stats, these numbers were accomplished in Denver, Colorado where the elevation is around 5200 ft. (mile above sea level) Lets see if a Skyline can run thoughs times here at this altitude. Can a Skyline handle that, didn't think so! When people state facts that are not true, it just makes them look pathetic. Thanks for the laugh everyone! Sorry if I damaged anyones ego's, but I just wanted to set the world straight.


that's an extremely slow 1/4 mile for a Mustang of that power and torque.


In New Zealand there are Skylines in the low 9's

In Japan there are Skylines in the 7's


EDIt: Missed that part about the altitude, sorry :o but what the hell is the point of running a car at a alitude that high any idea what it runs at a normal altitude???? Also- Skylines are superior cars to Westie model V8s in the twisties- remember a 1/4 mile time is not everything.

Moppie/Replicant- Fraisers are indeed awesome little cars in fact they are one of my favourite "7" style cars- Although apparentley more of Fraisers product goes to Japan than NZ:eek:

Go Team- You're a dumbass:rolleyes:

This is not a slow 1/4 mile time at 5200 ft elevation. I haven't ever heard of a street legal automobile running 7's, even 9's at an elevation of more than a mile above sea level. Shoot, dragsters are barely pushing 6-7's at this altitude. If you put one of those Skylines that runs 7's at sea level here at 5200 ft elevation, it would run 12-13's. Nobody seems to understand the effect elevation will have on a cars performance. Thinner air/less oxygen, resulting in decreased performance. I'm still waiting for a street legal vehicle that can perform at another altitude other than sea level or 1000 ft above sea level.

The whole point was stated that Ford's can't compete against a Skyline. I've shown it can be done. I understand that some Euro & Japanese autos have better handling than most American muscle cars. This wasn't stated though. Only thing everybody was talking about was power & speed, not handling. Just my two cents.

I don't know what the Stang runs at Sea level, the guy I know who owns it lives here in Denver (Mile High City), Colorado USA as well. It was a project car of his, but I would say it can compete with just about any street legal car at sea level though.

I completely understand why cars are slower at high altitude- I just see little point in running them at high altitudes- and It is true that a Ford Mustang can quite easily better a Skyline on the straight- there is no replacement for diplacement :D- Or cheap mods (Such is the case of the Mustang)

There are only 2 reasons I can see for racing at this altitude. One is for the challange. How to modify your ride, to compensate for thinner air. An example would be a larger intake. Most everybody likes to race or watch a race, so this is the second reason. Lived here most my life, so I'm used to hearing slower times than most people I talk to on the net.

Displacement is a huge factor, but this depends on the weight of the car. Look at and old '69 Camaro 396TurboJet. Fast car, huge engine, but couldn't keep up with a Skyline due to weight and the mods on the newer cars.

Mods. depend on the selling power of the car. The more sells a particular model has, the more likely you'll get mods. for those vehicles. Also, when manufacturers make various sizes of engines and trans. for one model, it's harder and takes longer for the aftermarket world to push out their products for that model.

Trouble with RB skylines is the same as the early mazda R100's they won't drive past service stations.

Now my Silver Bullet C900 Turbo is much more refined,it will drive past two service stations before needing a top up....

My old Ford Landau (2door Hardtop Aussie LTD) with its 351 and moon shot diff, would be more than a match on the open road, see it don't have no rev limiter and the faster it goes the happier it was. Gee I miss that car. :(

Ok where do i start???

The GTR is a sweet car,infact i have been staring at an rb26dett for a couple of days now.

The thing is is that a RWD setup has proved dominant over an awd setup. AWD is supirior on street cars, but when real power is added the RWD is easier to tune to hook up. I have driven AWD cars, and even driven them in pro level races, and the one thing i noticed was that either you have too much throttle or too little. It is very hard to guage the correct launch points.

As for your GTR being unbeatable, well bring it on, all i have to do is chang my SC pulley and i make over 1000rwhp. Or you can race my 240sx when it is complete (rb26dett w/rb25det transmission, in a 240sx)

Never say that your car is unbeatable!!

I have never owned a car that is not slower than some other car.

Unless you set the world record, dont talk smack.

Top fuelers make 6000 hp, now bow down to the king suckas!!:flipa:

never say no one can beat u because no matter what u have something is always faster and if its not someone will make it faster..
but 10 bucks says the car in my garage will keep up with ur tt i6
rwd v6
35th ann supercoupe

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Top fuelers make 6000 hp, now bow down to the king suckas!!:flipa:


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Top Fuelers exactly in other words not the least it like the ordinary car

Originally posted by Jimster



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Top Fuelers exactly in other words not the least it like the ordinary car

I was just pointing out who posesses the ultimate power.