Why are Supra's so Expensive?

The Toyota Supra is probably one of my favorite cars of all time. But, I have to say that I think that for the money people want for one, you would be better off setting your sites on something else. The main reason I say is that buy now most of them have racked up mileage around the 100-150k mile range. I know its a toyota, but STILL. For a TT 6spd you would be paying AT LEAST 25-30k for a 10 year old car with about 150k miles on it. Also, many of them have already been tampered with. Do you really want a car someone else has modded and then beat the @#$% out of for 150k miles? As for the other supras, Personally, I wouldnt want a TT auto, or a 5spd with a turbo kit (both of which are often priced over bluebook). And what if you do happen to see a nice stock TT 6spd? your gonna shell out 30,40, maybe even 50k for it. Thats about what the car was new... and after you get that super nice car, are you gonna buy turbo upgrades, nos and a body kit for it and drag race it? Not only is it gonna bring the grand total up probably at least another 10k, but you would be RUINING a really nice car. There is a reason that Supras are so rare, and that Toyota quit making them, NOONE WANTED TO SHELL OUT 40-50k for one even when they were new! I'm not trying to say that if you want one you shouldn't buy one, or that they are a waste of money. If you want one and have the means, knock yourself out. But I just feel that for the price Supras are going for, you could have a newer car that is just as good if not better. Personally, Id rather start pinching pennies for that new 2007 GT-R. But thats just me....

Just saw the post about the possibility of a new supra comming out... Those pics look really cool, and maybe it would force the price of the MKIV down a bit? That'd be cool....

Used prices weren't that bad until that evil movie came out. Once the car was featured in a movie every poser out there wanted one. It drove up demand which then drove up prices. When I was shoping for my Tacoma back in 99 there was a used 97 TT MT on the Toyota lot. It was certified used with a waranty for 22K. It only had 50K miles on it. Now you are looking at an AT with 120K on the ODO that probably has a few problems for that price.

I think it is rather silly. It is too much money for a car that some one has already ragged out. Especialy when you look at the other cars you can get in the 22-26K price range. You can put yourself into a brand new Mustang GT for that price. I know there are plenty of folks out there that seem to shun domestics for no apparant reason, but the new Mustangs deliver the same stock HP with a broader power band in a lighter package. Don't knock it until you try it. If you are insistant on an import you can also put yourself into a WRX or an Evo. That is why I am building up a MK III. With a 1K entery price I will have a built car for less than half the price of a well used MK IV.

Just saw the post about the possibility of a new supra comming out... Those pics look really cool, and maybe it would force the price of the MKIV down a bit? That'd be cool....

Don't hold your breath. The way Toyota is going that concept will end up coming out as a replacement for the Lexus SC, that is if it ever reaches production.

It is a shame that The Fast and The Furious ever came out. The cars in it are cool, but the movie spawned allot of posers and the plot was stupid. I'm 24, and I have loved cars my entire life. I saw a brand new supra at the dealer and checked it out for hours while my mom was buying her 94 4runner. But since that stupid movie, everyone with a civic or cavalier decided they needed a fart can and rims w low pros. I swear if I see another sunfire with 4 inch wheel gap im going to be sick. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of money people will waste on a shitty car. Take a sunfire, put nos, rims, low pro tires, ground FX, a fart can (can't forget that) and 7-10 japenese symbol stickers (by the way-after meeting an individual from japan at a race, I wouldn't put those on your car unless you know what they mean) and what do you have? A PONTIAC SUNFIRE.
It's gotten to the point where you can't buy any decent used import let alone a supra. They all have stupid shit like fart cans and cold air intakes that in my opinion make the car run worse (unless you tell the computer what to do with all that increased air flow) and of course with all those "high performance" mods, the kids want a fortune for them. And since its so rare to find a stock unmolested one, the guy who is selling one will still want a fortune. Not only that, but the insurance on civics and some other 4 bangers seems to be higher than it should be. Perhaps its because every kid that has one feels the need to get pulled over and crash allot making the car a high risk vehicle.
Maybe im unrealistic, but I just can't get over some of the stuff I see. I really hoped that people would have been smarter. I have a shitty 92 accord EX 5Spd that I use as a beater. It is probably the only accord around that doesn't have "mods". Why? because its not a race car and I know it. I have thought about an H22 swap because I like sleepers, but here again we have a car with 175k miles. It would be a waste of time and money.
I know its easy to get excited, but I think that people need to find their own dream car, (not a sunfire or civic, or a neat car that hollywood rams down our throats) and save up for it instead of wasting money on their everyday drivers. If that were the case, maybe people like me who actually like supras, not just think we like them because paul walker beat a ferrari in movie with one, could actually buy one at a reasonable price.

Don't hold your breath. The way Toyota is going that concept will end up coming out as a replacement for the Lexus SC, that is if it ever reaches production.

I know - but I can dream can't I?

AND........ :rolleyes:



You just feel the need to rant about how you can't afford the car? I'm sorry, but that's life. :thumbsup: If you think they are over priced then move on and look at something else, raving about it won't bring down the widely known price one cent. While I don't see the point in modding a sunfire per your example, it's not right at all to call it a shitty car. If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it, different strokes for different folks. Anyone can say the same thing about Supras (and I have heard it more than once). Who are you to tell anyone what should be their dream car. Almost everyone I've met with a Civic loves that Civic and wouldn't want anything else, it's the same with any other car/driver.

you just havr to look out there also, you might have to travel a little bit but you can find a 87-92 single turbo out there cheeper. when i had my 87 turbo supre i got it for $2,500 with 115,000 on it and the turbo was in great shape.along with the rest of the car, except for a copple of scratches and some paint faided, but you have to give a little for a supra for 2,500

[quote=projectsupramk3]AND........ :rolleyes:



While I don't see the point in modding a sunfire per your example, it's not right at all to call it a shitty car. If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it, different strokes for different folks. [quote]

A shitty car is a shitty car. If you intend to do a high preformance build you need to start with a good platform. With enough time and money you can turn a turd into a diamond, but by the time you are done how much of the orriginal will be left. Not only that, but what is it going to take to get there? I suppose if you are so hooked on your car that you just HAVE to use it then go ahead. That doesn't make it a good idea. I have seen some really fast Pintos out there, but I wouldn't exactly call them Pintos either. After droping in a 5.0 up front and a 9 inch out back there is nothing Pinto left. You can do the same for a Sunfire, Civic, Cavalier, Focus, Festiva, Justy, Metro, Escort, (insert favorite crap box here), or any other econo box, but that doesn't make them a good platform to start with.

If you wanna ease the pain just look at the price for a Bugatti Veyron

Base Price: 2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 - Approx. $1,700,000 (last update: 1/30/2006)

How many Supra's you think you could buy for that...Maybe throw in a few Ferarri's to speed things up.

AND........ :rolleyes:



You just feel the need to rant about how you can't afford the car? I'm sorry, but that's life. :thumbsup: If you think they are over priced then move on and look at something else, raving about it won't bring down the widely known price one cent. While I don't see the point in modding a sunfire per your example, it's not right at all to call it a shitty car. If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it, different strokes for different folks. Anyone can say the same thing about Supras (and I have heard it more than once). Who are you to tell anyone what should be their dream car. Almost everyone I've met with a Civic loves that Civic and wouldn't want anything else, it's the same with any other car/driver.

Ranting and raving won't change the price of the car - True, but it will wake people up and realize that there are better cars for less.

If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it - Noone has a passion for modding sunfires, they do it because its what they can afford, and instead of ruining a car that is BASIC TRANSPORTATION they could be saving for a good platform on which to start. If I would have saved all the money I wasted on junk cars when I was in highschool, Id probably be able to buy a supra.

Who are you to tell anyone what should be their dream car- I'm a genius, and young people would be wise to listen to me so they don't make the same mistakes I did. If your reading this and your 16 and starting to look for a car to pour money into, or your parents bought you a sunfire and you want to mod it, put 2k a year for 5 years into a Roth IRA instead.

If you wanna ease the pain just look at the price for a Bugatti Veyron

Base Price: 2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 - Approx. $1,700,000 (last update: 1/30/2006)

How many Supra's you think you could buy for that...Maybe throw in a few Ferarri's to speed things up.

I hear that, but that is in a whole other universe than most high performance imports or domestics. Those cars are beautiful pieces of work, but noone but rich oil tycoons can afford them, and they will proabably never get driven.

I am really saving for an MK IV actually. Ebay's rigged Supras are considerably cheaper, and I liked them track exclusive anyway, so its a good deal. But really, what I wanted is a good RWD or AWD. I'm beginning to hate WRX or EVOS bc of their status symbol. ALmost got an alltrac celica, but didn't. After reading the "overpriced-used-supra-ridiculousness" argument... I have to agree. I test-drove an Mk IV once, and it was such a thrill. Much to my dismay though, I was so attached to celica's handling. And then I test-drove an FD, RX-7... and no other thrill comes close to match this driving experience. Not even an Mk IV, which costs double/triple/quadriple...
Supras' price won't go down so quick, even if the next generation do come up. The "new" Supra will be what? 50k? 75K?? Can't be cheaper than a lexus for sure, bc that will hurt Lexus' sales... and then the new GT-R will come out cheaper....oooh. Toyota's chance for performance box is over guys... Other than for the JGTC events, drag events, or local showcase, the Mk IV Supra is just an overpriced nostalgia.

I was almost about to leave this one alone, but oh well, I haven't been on the boards in a while so I will grace you guys with my presence yet again. Take a seat, class has commenced.

Do you know why the supra is a overpriced car? Because people who have them, take care of them and people who want them, can't afford them. There were only three japanese super cars that were ever made, the MKIV supra was one of them. I don't blame you for ranting and raving, but get over it. Everything you said while you wasted your brain/physical strength trying to type those pathetic excuse of posts has already been said time and time again. I love my car and a take care of my car. Call me an idiot and a retard for spending a astronomical amount of money on my car and I'm not going to shed a tear, I'm going to drive away in my car that makes me truely happy.

As for the movies, so what that they came out, It helped the import communtiy more than anything. Yes people are going to start moddifying their cars, everyone has to start somewhere and everyone has to make their mistakes. Chances are, everyone on here started out with something other than their supra and worked their way up to what they have now, I know I did. I would rather take the harassment of cops then not be able to enjoy my hobby because businesses had to close down from lack of sales. You say hollywood rammed the supra down their throats, fine. But chances are that it was the reason you wanted the supra in the first place. Believe it or not, the supra wasn't that overpriced until the movie came out. I for one am glad it came out. You might want to talk to some people about how that movie happened rather than take your own mis-construed idea about how it was made. I talk to the the technical advisor of the fast and the furious series all the time, he was the one who owned that peice of shit orange car before it was ruined with that paint and graphic scheme. He used to race on the streets and hang out, but now because of that movie, he has gone on to make other cars that have been known to the media, such as the need for speed games, his R34 from 2 fast 2 furious, which was also changed for the movie.

As for you being a genius, give me a break. You decide to come on here bitching and complaining about something that we already hear enough of. If you want to complain, find somewhere else to do it and quit wasting space.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Welcome back from the dead.:licka:

is it just me or is anyone else aware that civic's can be turbo'd for less than a grand and the D16z6 has been known to run 12 psi safely stock. Putting it over 220whp and it weighs something like 1,000 pounds less than a supra. Well i dont no that to be fact or not. :'( but my 4 door wighed 2,400 i think?!
and where im from sunfires are a dime a dozen... sooo annoying... every M**** F**** has one... anyways that guy made a good point i did not want a civic because of 2 Fast 2 Gay i got one for free form my cousin. 95 ex, 5 speed. I thought it was slower than S*** and began to assemble a turbo kit before the tie rod broke sending me into an embankment. :'( oh well not everyone with a civic is a ricer trying to immitate that gay movie i just loved my car and was genuinaly involved in the civic scene, i guess im just tired of the stereotype.. oh and now i got a black uunmolested 1990? supra sitting in my drive way with 90k miles and 5 speed tranny w/ new clutch i am buying for 800 trying to get the guy to 600 cuz he got it for free. oh and it runs soo great only thing that dont work is the speedometer. :-P so see they can be found for cheap.

Used prices weren't that bad until that evil movie came out. Once the car was featured in a movie every poser out there wanted one. It drove up demand which then drove up prices. When I was shoping for my Tacoma back in 99 there was a used 97 TT MT on the Toyota lot. It was certified used with a waranty for 22K. It only had 50K miles on it. Now you are looking at an AT with 120K on the ODO that probably has a few problems for that price.

I think it is rather silly. It is too much money for a car that some one has already ragged out. Especialy when you look at the other cars you can get in the 22-26K price range. You can put yourself into a brand new Mustang GT for that price. I know there are plenty of folks out there that seem to shun domestics for no apparant reason, but the new Mustangs deliver the same stock HP with a broader power band in a lighter package. Don't knock it until you try it. If you are insistant on an import you can also put yourself into a WRX or an Evo. That is why I am building up a MK III. With a 1K entery price I will have a built car for less than half the price of a well used MK IV.yeah but who wants a mustang gt they hella suck id still take a
flipin supra
anyday

Supra's are so expensive because the revolutionized the automotive world. Look at the '94 Mustang. Those tiny "brake ducts" that have always been on Mustangs are suddenly the same shape as the Supra's. The trunk on the Mustang has the same curved shape as the supra's. And don't get me started on the Ferrari.

Supras are expensive because they are that good of a car. Plain and simple! The Fast and Furious only made more people aware of the car and until then it had been pretty much of a sleeper.

Most Supras are not beat up and beat out. They are generally well taken car of. However they are built to take abuse, actually overbuilt. They will easliy go 200K miles plus if properly taken car of so there is no need to be afraid of buying a high mileage Supra. Whats to go wrong with them except normal maintenance items? Most of the running gear will stand all so called abuse one can give them. So one blows an engine. You can buy a short block for around $2K... If the twin turbos go you can pick up a good used set for around $400. What else is there that gives problems for an everyday driver? Nothing. If any Supra looks good you can generally assume it has been well taken care of.

Hardly anybody want to spend $25 and on up just to beat a car to death. The most abusing thing one could do is hard core drag racing at the drag strip every week end and if one was making 800RWHP plus it might cause you to eat a drive shaft or a differential which could be expected of most any car. If one has that kind of power and is going to be a hard core drag racer you should replace those two items with aftermarked components anyway. The percentage of Supra owners who do that is pretty low.

The Supra might not be the best car at everything one would do with a car but it is nearly there and that is in every kind of driving one can do. This car is a phenominal car for just about every kind of driving you would want to do. And it is just plain fast in stock condition. I am sure you can't show me too many cars in the Supra price range that is as good of an all around drive and that will do 180MPH in stock condition and drive like a dream. I have driven stock Supras up to 175MPH and it is so smooth that one could take your hands off from the steering wheel and it will continue going straight down the road. There just isn't any better all around cars built than a Supra. PERIOD!!!

There are still plenty of well taken care of good Supras for sale if one takes their time in looking and lots of them with low mileage. Lots of original owners hardly drove there Supras at all...

There just isn't any better all around cars built than a Supra. PERIOD!!!

There are still plenty of well taken care of good Supras for sale if one takes their time in looking and lots of them with low mileage. Lots of original owners hardly drove there Supras at all...


Very debatable. The Supra had a drivetrain that was bullet proof, yes, but most open minded auto connoisseurs would laugh at the idea that the Supra is the world's best all- rounder. Alot of people will hate me for saying this, but the big single turbo Supras that put out 600+ hp suck as road cars. Yes, you can rag them out in a straight line, but try and really enjoy one on a twisty two lane back road, and it will only be a matter of time before you total it. (I'm sure somone will use this as an excuse to brag about their mad tite driving skills and they way in which they race through Deal's Gap in a fictitious 900hp Supra every week). And yes, for the record, I have driven a 600 horspower Supra on the road, and I immediately had to go change my underwear. "Fun" is not how I would describe that car.

As far as Supras with more realistic road set ups go- C5 Corvettes and M3s are known for being sweeter handling cars with better overall roadcourse numbers.

As far as design goes- someone claimed that the Supra had a huge impact on the automotive world. I seriously doubt that the Mustang designers had the Supra in mind when they designed their car's brake ducts and trunk lid. By the time the Supra hit showroom floors, that body style Mustang was already in its preproduction phases. If I recall correctly, the last Supra's exterior design was the brunt of alot of jokes in car magazines. At the time alot of people thought it was embarassingly derivative and a perfect example of what is wrong with bland Japanese automotive design. In fact, as far as "impact" goes, the Supra was really a kind of "Johnny come lately," as the 300zx and 3000GT/ Dodge Stealth had already set the scene for the Japanese sports cars war.

BTW, don't get me wrong- I would LOVE to have a Supra. As a matter of fact, I could now (finally) afford one. But the fact remains that, unless you intend to build a very capable import drag car, the Supra doesn't really have the goods to justify its extremely inflated price. Yes, many offended Supra owners will say "I have the right to do what I want with my car," but the rest of us also have the right to call it as we see it.

Mark my words- There is nothing wrong with paying top dollar for a car you really like. But you eventually approach a level of lunacy, no matter how much money you have to throw around. When everyone has forgotten about "The Fast and the Furious," the Supra will settle back down into book value territory. When that happens, you will have alot of Supra owners who will wonder what in the world they were thinking, regardless of whether they want to admit it or not.

Don't beleive me? This type of stuff happens all the time. Ask some of the collectors who bought up Ferraris like crazy right after Enzo died. Values soared, but most those cars are now barely worth half of what the owners originally paid for them (and that's without taking inflation into account!). And wait till the muscle car craze dies down. I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that any of the guys paying 2 mil. for hemi Cudas will ever see that money again. Granted, the overpricing of Supras isn't quite as exaggerated as those examples, but most of the middle class guys who buy these cars will probably suffer more for the money lost on a passion driven Supra purchase than those bazillionaire collectors ever thought about.

BTW, the above is in reference to MKIV Supras. MKIII Supras can be bought at bargain basement prices, and are probably one of the best deals going in terms of low budget performance builds. My brother and I replaced the head gasket on a 91 model and built the hell out of it while we were at it. That car was flat out wicked.

Yes they are kind of expensive i'm plannin of buying one and i'm faceing the same issue...

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Supras are rare where I am from.[CANADA] Anyone know of any sites I can check for supras on sale. I am student as of now but when I am done with school im going to be in the market for car.

I guess I decided to revisit at a good time. This thread makes me glad that the prices are high purely because people like you can't buy them. There's too much bitching and whining from haters out there that wish they were driving one. Such comments as "I wouldn't get one cuz its too expensive and not worth the money." Please... If your car went up in price in kbb and private markets you'd be singing a different note. Coming into the supra section to bitch about how the car is way overpriced and that people should get a different car will get you nowhere. Choose you battles carefully.


As for you being a genius, give me a break. You decide to come on here bitching and complaining about something that we already hear enough of. If you want to complain, find somewhere else to do it and quit wasting space.

Damn somebody got :owned:

If someone had already said this im sorry but I see a lot of nice clean 93 TT (with only like 100k miles)including some nice mods for around 6k to 13K because I was thinkin of tryin to get one. So yeah look around..

I agree with the zombie, >_>;; I know I will never get an MKIV, but when I think about it, I dont really NEED one. Want? Yes, Go out of my way to get a super car? Prolly not unless I win the lottery or win one itself. If I found one for a good cheap price, I would most likely sell it, and use that cash to make my MKIII better, since, after doing some reasearch, you can make a MKIII just as good as a MKIV even with an older 7M-GTE engine. Im not saying MKIII is better, but hey, its all in taste. I like the look of the boxy-eque MKIII and MKII a little better, but to each his own. I really dont think in life, either, that I would be able to afford such a piece of art, and while money is an issue, I will go for the slower, more affordable Supras...because a Supra is still a Supra... >_> :D

At least thats what I tell myself when trying to accelerate with a bad tranny.. hehe

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