go from ka24e to ka24de in an 89s13

:ok i have a 89 s13 with the ka24e with engine problems and instead of rebuilding the engine i want to get a ka24de. now i don't remember were i read that i would have to aslo get the instrument cluster from the 91 s13. my ? is what esle will i need to go from a ka24e to a ka24de so far i have the engine and tran what else is need. a place were to get this info would be helpful or a list of what i need would be great and please stick to what i an asking i didn't need a opinion on get the sr20det. i just want to know what else beside the engine and tran do i need to go from ka24e to ka24de thank for the help

u need wiring harness, ecu, engine, trans...

at the bare minimum

also u need to modify the power steering, or switch it to the DOHC setup. Look for info on how to do that with swapping a SR20 into the SOHC chassis, as they are the same modifications to get the DOHC KA into the SOHC chassis, but you will find it easier if u look for the SR stuff.

why would i look at the sr20det stuff or do you mean that i will need the same thing as if i were put in an sr20det . kind of like a ka24de front clip is that what you mean vortex

oh and i forgot how much should a i pay for the engine swap from ka24e to ka24de and idea's

wont the trans from a DOHC and a Sohc bot right up? so you shouldnt need a trans. Unless im wrong. hmph need to get that sohc out of the coupe so i can check, but that wont happen for another week. Im also doing this exact swap as we speak, its just going real slow, as the weather is not cooperating

u need wiring harness, ecu, engine, trans...

at the bare minimum

also u need to modify the power steering, or switch it to the DOHC setup. Look for info on how to do that with swapping a SR20 into the SOHC chassis, as they are the same modifications to get the DOHC KA into the SOHC chassis, but you will find it easier if u look for the SR stuff.

uh i'm not sure about power steering but there's no difference between the sohc and dohc chassis. they're the same. its the s13 chassis. i don't think a lot of the sr swap is the same as a ka swap. what he needs to do is get a fsm (i have one for the s13 if anybody needs it) and go from there. even then, he doesn't NEED power steering..

ghostowl its up to you if you want the power steering and the extra shit or not.. if you do then finding someone who has done the swap before will be able to help you. check nico for that. they have a lot of guys who have done swaps.. if you have any questions, pm me and i'll relay the question to my buddy who is doing a ca swap as we speak (check my thread).. he'll have answers for sure

do you have fsm for sr powered s13?

no, usdm.. although i'm sure that fsm wouldn't be hard to find

driftking777 can you keep me post as to how the swap is going and do i need the instrument cluster from the ka24de. if the trans are the same that will save me like 400 dollars . and yes i want power streeing and a/c . basic i want my 89 s13 be a 91 mechanically with all the goodys. and what about the cost were should it be for a shop to do the work

the 240sx power steering lines are different for the S13

you have the 89-90 cars, and 91-94 cars.....

in japan they are CA and SR years, in america SOHC and DOHC.

Each style has different power steering lines.

Starting with a SOHC car, nothing would be needed to change to put in a CA18, but if you read up on it, to put a SR into a SOHC car require the use of the DOHC powersteering lines. This is not a requirement to put a SR into a DOHC 240sx as it has the same new style. So to put a DOHC engine into a SOHC 240sx, you would need to do the power steering line conversion, which is the same as a SR swap. YOu will find a lot more information on the web about SR swaps, thats why I say look into the SR swap for the power steering line modification and you will get information easier.

damn that can give you a headache just reading that paragraph

no, usdm.. although i'm sure that fsm wouldn't be hard to find

I haven't found one yet that was translated into english, I have found an aussie one but its s13 with ca18det...and an s14 w/ sr20 notchback and s15 of course also...

i don't remember who it is but someone has posted a site that you can download fsms from

http://www.zeroyon.com/index/content/category/6/70/47/


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shhh now don't remeber who posted those before....

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hmmm...no sr20det s13, thanks anyways

u need wiring harness, ecu, engine, trans...

at the bare minimum




u don't need the tranny... u can mod the existing harness ,power steering dough, yeas...

BTW when u get a motor 4m a jumk yard or what ever,u usually get the harness and ECU...

what about the instrument cluster will i need to get the one from the 91 car or not?

yo let us all know how the swapping go when you are done with it.

i will try to keep it post

yes. a DOHC motor will not run a SOHC tach correctly.

thanks thats like one of the most important thing to me i want the car to be as particales as possible. i don't want waste any one

ummm np i guess. was that even english?

hahah "particales"??

he might have been trying to say 'practical'

i'm doing a swap too going from ka24e to a ka24de but my problem is the 24de is from a 99 altima and i don't know if it will easily bolt into my 90 240sx? can anyone help me? e-mail me i'll get it quicker since my e-mail goes with me!!! but i will check back here off and on friedcircuit2@hotmail.com

no no no no no not at all dont even think about doing that project. its a FWD engine, not RWD like your ka24e

i know it is a rwd versus front wheel but the engine specs and blueprints are the same and i was told that the block offers more than one option for where the motor mounts can go. is this true? if so e-mail me at friedcircuit2@hotmail.com

well the distributor is in a different spot, and im not sure if it will fit seeing as it sticks out of the end of the camshaft. there are a few other things that are different, possibly including the motor mounts. research lots before you try