ideas?dreams?

i wanna build a 240 preferably 94 with s15 conversion,but what would u guys do?gimme some ideas or dreams u have

my dream has always been a powerful car that looks decent and excels in all aspects of performance driving. Sort of like a race car or a road rally car.... so that nothing can touch you, except for no gas or spike strips if you get my drift.

I guess I've seen smokey and the bandit one too many times.....

right now I have about 2 g's saved up for my next project. If you look at my screename you might have an idea as to what it is. Now that I have some money starting to save I will begin the process. I will first look for a deal on a rebuilt shortblock or a used shortblock, whatever sounds more feesible when I find it. New Vortec(truck heads 95-99) aftermarket ported heads, something similar to a GM Hotcam see here.....

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/lt4/0/E85CF0B5-1C95-4F08-A21D-1C78D43DE17D.htm

now that sounds badass for a GM made camshaft........

top that all off... here is the 2nd best part, with an EDELBROCK intake manifold and CARB it.... going back to oldschool...but its easy as anything to setup and swap it into another car. Plus it sounds better with a higher compression, cam'd motor!

The best part is, the fully built AUTOMATIC transmission, once I post some videos on what the transmission will do, you will think differently about auto's. "Clutch dumps", instaneous shifting? and you thought manual transmission did those the best huh?

putting all of this into the Mazda Rx-7 Fc3s chassis



now theres a god damn idea for you buddy

I am aiming to break into the high 11's with slicks for the track..... all for under 3500 spent on everything..... thats not an unreasonable goal at all either

yea never thought of that that is a feasable idea,even tho i was thinkin along the li9nes of 240;sbut all ideas are welcom,keep me posted on that v-x7:)

what about handling?....guess the dream was given up for a streach of roadway....

You could always do a STi motor into a Delorian!

right now im doing up my dream...so far everything is going as planned. I just need to order a rear quarter(decided to just replace it, will take about only 4 hours and is a guaranteed straight panel) and a rear bumper from nissan. Im waiting on my cousin to get me a discounted price on them since he works there. I have the money already set aside. Then its all engine from there. Well maybe a few more suspension pieces....and ill replace anything else i find worn while im under the car. But so far so good. hopefully soon to have a nice jdm style'd, usdm powered KA-t silvia clone.

The only thing i dont like is.....half my mods list hasnt arrived yet lol. My JUN products wont arrive till april 20-25 since they send over one container a month. I just missed the february container, so it will be sent on the march container(who knows when that will arrive). Well i just ordered the spl stuff to so i wont expect that for another week or two. And my trunk is on backorder lol. But im in no hurry. All this shit will just be piled in my room until the weather is hot enough for me to rip almost every single body panel off except for the passenger quarter panel....the only straight panel worth saving. But i have started prepping the front end pieces for paint. There's a few minor dents in the fenders ill have to pull. Im just going to strip everything down to bare metal and rubber(bumper) and do it up to almost brand new status. Took some rubbing compound to all the lenses on the lights and washed all the housings with a tooth brush. Remember its junkyard parts lol so you get some JDM dirt and grime with them.....im super cool now.......


and btw spl has great customer service....and very cheap prices. Thanks rw for referring them.

I always thought a KA-T silvia clone would be badass...

on a side note, I wonder if anyone in japan has made a KA-T instead of a SR... next biggest trend for japanese? hmmmm save your KA's and export em!

I always thought a KA-T silvia clone would be badass...

on a side note, I wonder if anyone in japan has made a KA-T instead of a SR... next biggest trend for japanese? hmmmm save your KA's and export em!


maybe a few, but i highly doubt it. But maybe once the ka gets more popular over here, they may tailor to making jdm ka parts. I mean greddy did it already...yea yea its a weak ass kit, but still they showed interest. OS Giken made a ka-t car too, you get my point. Not that i care, i think there's plenty of badass stuff out for the ka right now. And its proving itself nicely. Once it has as many tuning years as the sr does under its belt, im sure it will be a dominant engine also.

btw welcome to the forum, i dont remember seeing you before!!

yashio factory was running a ka-t 240sx but blew it up and swapped an sr it haha =)

american v8 in an fc makes me cry... =(

why would it make you cry?

do you even know a v8 swapped rx-7 is lighter and better balanced then a turbo FC?

so its now faster, has just as much potential for handling/braking, and sounds pretty badass.

whats to lose here other then it doesn't have a rotary engine? neither does 98% of the other cars on the road so why would it all the sudden be a pos?

Lighter???...ummm...right....:rolleyes:

im a jdm whore thats why

chuki i didn't even know that was your plan.. in my other thread i said i've never seen a silvia with a ka-t.. this is the first one!

Just to inform, the LS1 Chevy 350ci (5.7 litre), is about 19lbs heavier than the turbo rotory setup in the FD. The LS1 is an all aluminum motor whereas the rotory is cast iron. 1.3 vs 5.7 with an added 19lbs, as long as it is as cheap as he said, it sounds pretty cool. Plus it will be more reliable. However, with a built auto trans and a stall converter, good luck going around turns while on the gas a little. It would be funny as shit to watch the tranny shift at the apex and see you spin out.

pardon my ignorance, but what is a stall convertor and what does it do (im not familiar with auto trannies...)

common sense would tell me that its like disengaging a clutch when you come to a stop. it lets the car idle, not move and still be in gear. but my common sense isn't alway working..

i think he meant a high stall torque converter

actually I learned its about the same weight after I posted that...my bad

still seems like it would be a bitch to controll...but hey, still a cool idea :thumbsup:

i must have missed your other thread d-bo. But yea thats the plan....so far so good. The local shop that i go to surprised me today with a carbing front strut bar. I was like wow, who's this for. There like its for sale, we just got it today to check the quality on there parts. Jimmy (the guy who works there, he's asain i dont think thats his real name lol, but i dont ask......kind of funny though the asian guy at PandaGarage said his name was jimmy also.....lol)
But anyways, jimmy said i knew you may want it because you asked about them before. I said how much he said 230, i was like let me get my wallet i have cash lol. He was like i thought you would buy this. Luckily my dad paid me back 300 bucks yesterday lol. The quality is amazing, its a one piece welded aluminum bar. Welds are sexy. Very light weight too(i know its just a strut bar....) I kind of miss judged the heaviness at first glance and lifted it up real fast lol. Has a welded in brake cylinder stopper too. Its a very nice piece. It was a good surprise to come into. Im having them check on a rear one also......

spl parts sells these too.

here's a link to an ok picture that i could find.....its not an s13 one, but still you get the point.
http://www.okuyama-go.to/new/index.html

they make a variety of parts. The carbing line is for street, the dash line of products is for full race. They make EVERYTHING. Browse the site.

actually even engines heavier then the LS-1 still make it lighter when you gut the engine bay. Turbo 2's are around 3,000 pounds.

I can make a transmission that can only shift on command, a lot faster, harder, and more consistently then you or I can shift a manual. So it will be funny as hell when you miss a gear and the auto tears you a new one around the corner. Only downside to the automatic is about 65 pounds heavier then the manual I would run. That can be taken care of for a purpose built car though. Also really, why is adding 50 lbs to the car in the middle down low so bad? especially if you move the battery and get a lighter hood. 50 pounds isn't everything if it brings with it more speed and a much better driving experience.

Im not going to be a suspension nazi, Im going to be serious here, this car is for going fast and lighting up tires. Not going to an autocross event and getting the best time in the country. It will still outhandle a lot of other cars when you look at the big picture.

Okuyama Carbing is some good shit!
So what is a high stall tq convertor? (noone has explained yet!)

Believe me I know about auto trannys, I like manual because its better for driving and racing in ways OTHER than a strait line.

And I thought it was more than 50lbs, thats why I said
actually I learned its about the same weight after I posted that...my bad

Bty, not everyone misses their shifts...some of us guys actually know how to drive using our own stick and can get it in each time :thumbsup:

That much power on that light of a car without suspension work is a bitch, you talked about being untouchable...

my dream has always been a powerful car that looks decent and excels in all aspects of performance driving. Sort of like a race car or a road rally car.... so that nothing can touch you, except for no gas or spike strips if you get my drift.

Alot of torque in a very light car, no suspension work, auto tranny...your roadability is gone. Yes, youll run fast, you just wont turn. Hell, you wont even outrun a Vic unless your on the freeway.

Youll acell in speed, acceleration, looks, badass-a-tude (car would defentally be badass:2cents: ), you just wont have handling on your side really at all.

who said I wasn't doing any suspension modifications?

I probably know how to shift the fastest out of everyone here with a manual, I impress everyone who has ever ridden with me, its something that I really worked on very hard, every shift is faster then I can snap my fingers...... i have no problems driving a manual... just for this setup an automatic will be more feesible, and I can make an automatic that is pretty much just like a manual, but you don't have a cltuch pedal... trust me it will be good.... like I say i hope to get some videos one day to prove it.... some people just don't know what a performance automatic can do.

Performance automatics are great, but they only start to get used, even in drag racing, when cars are making huge power numbers like over 800. If you are setting it up to shift manually then what I said earlier about spinning in a turn is irrelavant. What I was saying that with a tranny with a shift kit, it could potentially shift mid turn and break the rear loose causing a spin. It would be too violent to control because of the quick shifts by a shift kitted auto. But even when a tranny is set on certain gear numbers, it can still upshift (new auto trannys), but they can be setup to only shift by doing it yourself too if you set it up that way. A high performance auto is a great tranny for drag racing, and you can potentially go around a turn fast, but on a course you will be all over the place because of the harshness of the up and down shifts of a performance auto trans.

And to answer the stall converter question. I did mean high stall converter. In auto trans you can get a torque converter that won't engage until a higher rpm. Some are set at 2,500 and some are set higher or lower than that depending on at what rpm you would want to launch at. They are pretty cool and can potentially shift faster than people. You see them often in old muscle cars. When you have the torque they have and power at low rpm, you don't need a manual trans to go fast in a 1/4 mile.

a torque converter is basically like a large windmill. the turbine attached to the crankshaft spins with the engine and sloshes around fluid. It then moves the turbine on the input shaft of the transmission. With different types of blades, sized, and pitch you can create an effect where it has to work harder to spin the input turbine so it slips longer before you begin to move. With an automatic transmission there is actually nothing that is physically connected to the crankshaft and transmission like a 5 speed is. This is why it doesn't stall when you come to a stop. This effect can also has something called torque multplication that helps in the launch.

The reason why you think automatics suck so bad, is because you like imports, sorry to say imports have no low end torque, nothing like a good v8. They don't have high enough stall converters to get into the powerband so you take-off real slow, you can't clutch dump it just to barely get your tires spinning. They also have different gear ratios then the manual and with a high rpm car that lacks oomph, this make a big difference. Also people do not switch to automatics in racing just for the sole application of drag racing when you have more then 800hp.

First off, I can't think of any OEM transmission that is performance oriented(this excludes things like 1 ton truck manuals) that will even take 500hp with hard abuse. You can blow up even the mighty T-56 with 500hp left and right if your hard on it all the time. Hell they die on stock LT-1 camaros even...

Most drag racers run automatics, very rarely do you see a bracket racer(by far the majority of drag racers are bracket racers) with a manual transmission. That guy might be having fun, but he won't be winning much.

Also you do not have to make the transmission a full manual controlled valvebody to have the ability to command shifts....the proper shift kit will still allow commanded shifts when in the lower detents of the shifter, but still have high performance oriented automatic shifting when left in the D4 detent. Not like your mothers honda either, we are talking as soon as you move the shifter instantly its in the gear you selected at any speed or rpm, that by far will downshift WAY faster then a manual, especially if your rev matching the downshift and not just side stepping the clutch and recieving a drivetrain shock.

I have a buddy who runs 10's in a 500hp in an almost streetable 71 camaro, his converter's stall speed......... SIX THOUSAND rpm's LOL that is insane, you have to rev the piss out of it to get it to move an inch, but man with a good powerbrake that baby launches extremely nice on the slicks. With the aggressive cam on that car the motor is just begging to rev up high very fast and easily though.

it is a lot of work to do to the transmission to get it to work like this, when a 5 speed is ready to go in stock form. Another thing good about the transmission is it is very cheap to fix when the friction materials wear out(150 bucks or less tops with all the best shit), when a 5 speed goes kaboom it is very expensive as your dealing with machined metal parts, or a few hundred dollar clutch........ I'd rather burn up my badass best you can get 35 dollar band for my auto then whipe out some gears on the mainshaft of a manual.

the fd i posted about a while back runs a 10. He just got a new tune and what not, he said automatic is now in the picture. He doesnt have one yet, but he may need it. He said it should be alot quicker this year though. Its purpose built for track though, very light too.

who said I wasn't doing any suspension modifications?
You implied it
Im not going to be a suspension nazi, Im going to be serious here, this car is for going fast and lighting up tires. Not going to an autocross event and getting the best time in the country. It will still outhandle a lot of other cars when you look at the big picture.
I probably know how to shift the fastest out of everyone here with a manual, I impress everyone who has ever ridden with me, its something that I really worked on very hard, every shift is faster then I can snap my fingers...... i have no problems driving a manual... just for this setup an automatic will be more feesible, and I can make an automatic that is pretty much just like a manual, but you don't have a cltuch pedal... trust me it will be good.... like I say i hope to get some videos one day to prove it.... some people just don't know what a performance automatic can do.
Thats a pretty big claim considering there are pro racers in here...like Igor...you might want to be around a lil before you insult 400,000 some enthusists.
a torque converter is basically like a large windmill. the turbine attached to the crankshaft spins with the engine and sloshes around fluid. It then moves the turbine on the input shaft of the transmission. With different types of blades, sized, and pitch you can create an effect where it has to work harder to spin the input turbine so it slips longer before you begin to move. With an automatic transmission there is actually nothing that is physically connected to the crankshaft and transmission like a 5 speed is. This is why it doesn't stall when you come to a stop. This effect can also has something called torque multplication that helps in the launch.

if you didnt look that up good job

The reason why you think automatics suck so bad, is because you like imports, sorry to say imports have no low end torque, nothing like a good v8. They don't have high enough stall converters to get into the powerband so you take-off real slow, you can't clutch dump it just to barely get your tires spinning. They also have different gear ratios then the manual and with a high rpm car that lacks oomph, this make a big difference. Also people do not switch to automatics in racing just for the sole application of drag racing when you have more then 800hp.

:rolleyes: I had a 79 trans am, a 67 mustang, and a 93 t-bird (5.0...not 3.6)
I know all about autos for drag and torque but guess what bro...I like the CORNERS...a clutch helps alot, so your not slaming it into gear through the curves. Theres alot of technique you cant have with an auto.

First off, I can't think of any OEM transmission that is performance oriented(this excludes things like 1 ton truck manuals) that will even take 500hp with hard abuse. You can blow up even the mighty T-56 with 500hp left and right if your hard on it all the time. Hell they die on stock LT-1 camaros even...

If you drive like an idiot and powershift everywhere it will...if you shift as fast as you claim, you arnt powershifting because you will loose time doing that. A fast...smothe shift is faster than gear jaming.

Most drag racers run automatics, very rarely do you see a bracket racer(by far the majority of drag racers are bracket racers) with a manual transmission. That guy might be having fun, but he won't be winning much.

Yes, DRAG RACING like I said, thats all youll be good at

Also you do not have to make the transmission a full manual controlled valvebody to have the ability to command shifts....the proper shift kit will still allow commanded shifts when in the lower detents of the shifter, but still have high performance oriented automatic shifting when left in the D4 detent. Not like your mothers honda either, we are talking as soon as you move the shifter instantly its in the gear you selected at any speed or rpm, that by far will downshift WAY faster then a manual, especially if your rev matching the downshift and not just side stepping the clutch and recieving a drivetrain shock.

my mom drives a 2006 NISSAN Maxima...dont talk about my mama Ill have to come down and whoop yer ass :evillol: Serously though, sure it will shift fast but your going to be alot jerkier....your not going to be perfectly smooth.....just fine for DRAG RACINGthough

I have a buddy who runs 10's in a 500hp in an almost streetable 71 camaro, his converter's stall speed......... SIX THOUSAND rpm's LOL that is insane, you have to rev the piss out of it to get it to move an inch, but man with a good powerbrake that baby launches extremely nice on the slicks. With the aggressive cam on that car the motor is just begging to rev up high very fast and easily though.

cool! :thumbsup:

it is a lot of work to do to the transmission to get it to work like this, when a 5 speed is ready to go in stock form. Another thing good about the transmission is it is very cheap to fix when the friction materials wear out(150 bucks or less tops with all the best shit), when a 5 speed goes kaboom it is very expensive as your dealing with machined metal parts, or a few hundred dollar clutch........ I'd rather burn up my badass best you can get 35 dollar band for my auto then whipe out some gears on the mainshaft of a manual.

if you blow your valve body your fucked too. I can build a 5speed with gears that will take any abuse I can throw at it and a clutch system that wont burn unless I really...REALLY want it to. Sure it costs money, but so does your auto you are proposing using.

I am seriously hooked up in the drivetrain world.

what 5 speed are you talking about not blowing up? I can't think of one. You know your average manual transmission is not something that you can "soupe" up for lack of a better word. It is what it is, there is only a certain size and chunk of metal you can have, the input shaft is still the same size, the bearings can only be one size, the shift forks can only be one size... so there isn't really that much you can improve on....... maybe some cryo'd parts, but your talking a shit load more money then any automatic transmission I can rebuild. The best most indestructable bands for a 200-4r are only like 30 bucks my cost, a lot of the other friction material can use stock ones because they don't see much abuse in their operation, those are pocketchange. A few hundred bucks will net you a transmission capable of running 9's. There is not ONE SINGLE production manual transmission that can put up with that for 10x's that price. Still with cryo'd parts, you still have many limitations you cannot change without switching to another gearbox.

No I didn't read about that torque converter explination, I dumb'd it down as best I could so some people could better understand it what it actually does.

what do you mean by blow my valvebody? do you know anything about transmissions?

a valvebody is about the LAST possible thing that can go wrong, in fact it can only go wrong after everything else is all fucked up anyhow. About the only thing that can hurt it is longterm water contamination causing rust and gasket deteriation and scattered metal hanging up valves. You don't have much else to worry about with the valvebody with a art carr shift kit for a 200-r4..............

I mean most people on this here 240sx forum, I've seen a lot of videos of even people with fast cars here or try to talk shit and they are seriously lacking in some driving skills. Surely making a comment like that about 400,000 people I don't know would be stupid. Most people here are like 16 to 20 year olds who either have a 240sx for their first car or are just getting into performance stuff. How many 16 year olds are there driving in Formula 1 whipping everybody's ass? Many people here need years more experience messing around with cars. There are a few that are admirable, many who are willing to learn, and some who just suck ass at life their entire time on this planet.

another thing is your trying to tell me what an automatic is like haha, then you list your cars with experience in handling with automatics, a 79 trans am, a 67 mustang, and a 93 t-bird........ we should all just dismiss your comments right now. 79 trans am? 67 mustang? 93 t-bird? Im talking about a Rx-7 here man, i've driven countless examples of those cars and they are completely blown out of the water when it comes to handling with a rx-7. I think newer 4x4 trucks are more sportier then a god damn 67 mustang.... those old school cars are nowhere near the competence of one of the best handling examples of today's cars.

Now I'll shutup right now if all those cars were fully built aftermarket suspensions, brakes, reinforced chassis... but if they are like all the mostly stock ones I've ever driven, you will get out classed BIG time.

sorry if I'm harsh or rude, but some god damn truth needs to be in this thread.

Thus the reason you should shutup now. Sequecial Trannies, pardon my spelling on this whole response, are considered manual, and make up the majority of track racing trannies. Like what was said earlier, by me and others, autos are good for straight line and high torque motors. Manual tranies can be cheap and bullet proof. A "Dog Box" is a very strong tranny that shifts as fast as just about anything. It is extremely strong and if it ever dies, you replace gears only. Cheap, especially if you have the "hookups" you have. Plus it is something that could be done in 30 minutes. Straight cut gears allow the gears to be bigger and stronger. No synchroes for for people who can drive.

Also before you start insulting people you should ask a background. I for one will not consider myself a pro driver, but I would like to think I am pretty good. I am 23 and have been into cars since I could drive. I currently own a 1964 Chevy C10 (about 400hp 350ci motor for now and a 350 turbo trans) that I am restoring with my dad, who drag raced growing up and had a 68 Vette that ran 11.87. I also have a 1993 Civic with a built NA motor to hopefully compete in the NASA Honda Challenge after my cage (damn the price of chromoly going up to $11 a foot). And my daily driver 240sx for a little fun. I went to Skip Barber Racing School and will be going again after I save more money. We are not all idiots, and you can learn something. I went from an import hating muscle head to what I am now, call it what you want. But I have experience all over the place.

And by the way, the 4 speed Muncie was a damn good tranny and virtually bullet proof, and so is the Turbo 400 as far as autos go.

I used to hate on people back right when I joined here at AF. But I have found that I am not all knowing and have actually learned a lot by listening. Try it, and don't jump to think that someone is insulting you.

T-56 6 speed = Godly strong.

8-9 Second Supras, and Vipers and Corvettes with manuals. Not to mention the manual transmissions in Porches and Nissans (Skyline GTR), and BMWs are strong.

And what are you doing arguing about Rx-7s with Chevy V8s in a Nissan 240sx forum??

The reason why you think automatics suck so bad, is because you like imports, sorry to say imports have no low end torque, nothing like a good v8. They don't have high enough stall converters to get into the powerband so you take-off real slow, you can't clutch dump it just to barely get your tires spinning. They also have different gear ratios then the manual and with a high rpm car that lacks oomph, this make a big difference. Also people do not switch to automatics in racing just for the sole application of drag racing when you have more then 800hp.

Followed up with

another thing is your trying to tell me what an automatic is like haha, then you list your cars with experience in handling with automatics, a 79 trans am, a 67 mustang, and a 93 t-bird........ we should all just dismiss your comments right now. 79 trans am? 67 mustang? 93 t-bird? Im talking about a Rx-7 here man, i've driven countless examples of those cars and they are completely blown out of the water when it comes to handling with a rx-7. I think newer 4x4 trucks are more sportier then a god damn 67 mustang.... those old school cars are nowhere near the competence of one of the best handling examples of today's cars.

So what...are you using the chevy 200-r4 or the rx7's 4n71b, n4a-el r4ael, or the re4-r01a trans? Your talking about power and autos with V8's and then try to say im an idiot because I follow up with my experience there. I never said they could handle. Thats why I got a 5-speed, so I have the clutch, and usage of changing gears when I want without having to spend alot on my trans.

Bty, choosing the 240sx section to argue about your LS1 powered RX-7 -IDEA- is not the best. Go back to high school, graduate, then build it, and show us not brag and e-thug.

I've been to college and also am a professional technician, R&R personnel, and learning building automatics, T56's aren't that strong, sure they are great, but when you start talking about some power and actually using it, they will grenade themselves, I've seen it too many times. I've pulled too many out.... Even a stock LT-1 will have no problem taking out a T-56. BTW most drag racers who actually go to drag racing events full time with street imports in the 8's and 9's aren't running toyota or nissan transmissions, sure its been done, but why do so many peope change them out with cars that are even slower? just look and you shall find those swapped cars pretty abundant.

An old Muncie 4 speed isn't indestructible either, T-5's are far far from it, T-45's are dogs too, T56 is about the best it gets for the domestic world.

Plus having a 1:1 ratio as your final gearing for a 3spd auto or 4spd manual is pretty lame.

I work on this stuff easily 50 hours a week, its amazing what you see all beat to hell transmissions constantly when people online have no experience and I've seen 50 of them go bad and then they say they are indestructible is just nonsense. Please, call me stupid but I can't deny what I see with my own two eyes in front of me.

another thing, what I can't have a 240sx without having some kind of 240sx user ID? talk about assuming shit, i have just as much right to be on this forum, maybe more then you terminal velocity... wheres your 240sx?

have a good night sir, this thread is going nowhere and I give you the last word.

Had one, have a 240z with a RB motor :rolleyes:

Good for you working on them. I mean...of course we dont...and we dont know anyone who does. Of course we dont know any pro's. Your god...I love you.

Please sir...father my children. Afterall you so keenly put how I have no reason being in these fourms *having had a 200sx (rwd) and a 240sx*. And we never said you have no reason to be here, we said you are arguing in the wrong place.

Chevy's (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=729)

RX-7's (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=300)

Try these sections, you might find them better to post your weapon of choice.

Last words hu? When I say you need suspension...and your building it for drag and you argue...and then use drag for your examples you seem like some kid from High school making an argument.

When a bro calls your car awesome, just says he dosent think it will handle and you pick a fight, your being a dick. So believe you won...believe im some dumb kid without knowing anything about me. OH! and welcome to AF...