Stuck in an alright position...

I bought a 96 gst, the turbo shaft walked bad after 2 days. The guy said it was boosted up to 14 lbs.... but still totally stock. IM getting a 3grand loan and about 900 can hit my car... I need a new turbo and some professional Advise. stock turbo? 14b? t4? I dont know. If it was an Rs lol id know. Or like a 350 heh. So yea if you had about 900 to make a car run clean where would you go with it? probably a turbo,controller, fmic? Help me out. I dont want something really really fast close to stock so it can get to school and back in Idaho from texas. So lets not go crazy on the Ideas. Hit it up quick style guys!

If you want it to be a headache free replacement just go with the stock t-25. For reletively cheap(I doubt within $900) you could upgrade to a 14B but it would require some supporting mods and tuning. It doesn't sound like that something you want to get into right now so I would stick with the t-25. Get some hard piping for the IC, boost gauge if you dont already have one, intake, airfilter, BOV, exhaust, etc... simple bolt on mods. Hope that helps.;)

So turbo is shot? Evo3 big 16g you will be very happy with it

If you want it to be a headache free replacement just go with the stock t-25. For reletively cheap(I doubt within $900) you could upgrade to a 14B but it would require some supporting mods and tuning. It doesn't sound like that something you want to get into right now so I would stick with the t-25. Get some hard piping for the IC, boost gauge if you dont already have one, intake, airfilter, simple bolt on mods. Hope that helps.;)

not true!!! if you know what your doing with fabrication you can make anything!! i baught the evo3 big 16g and made my own J-pipe and got a braided line cheap, well under $900 also i had no boost gauge at the time i used my friends to set my boost. I made my own boost controll out of fish tank stuff ;). But that is the past now. I actually got all the goods now :rofl: But headache free YES stay T-25

not true!!! if you know what your doing with fabrication you can make anything!! i baught the evo3 big 16g and made my own J-pipe and got a braided line cheap, well under $900 also i had no boost gauge at the time i used my friends to set my boost. I made my own boost controll out of fish tank stuff ;). But that is the past now. I actually got all the goods now :rofl: But headache free YES stay T-25

Yeah but its sounds like he is looking for RELIABLE and EASY, so that rules out a bunch of fabricating.

Off-Topic: How did you tune your ECU to run the bigger injectors required for that 16G???? :rolleyes:

Well then the question arizes... If im going to buy intercooler piping should I just go to a larger FMIC or would I get boost Lag off that stock turbo? Seriously I thought i knew alot of Turbo stuff but IM getting a quick reality check on this car. Mabey keep it stock, then is there a digital boost controller I can tune to that waste gate to keep the boost a little lower that 14 lbs cause Id feel more comfortable running like what 7-9 around town then 14 to eat some ricer. But what can change the boost pressure on the fly, digitally? Apexi or greddy I know both make an electronic one on ebay for about 250ish. And does anyone have an old turbo laying in thier garage rom thier upgrade? Just hit me up, (and o yea if you have one jake just keep that peice of shit you cockface.)

Well then the question arizes... If im going to buy intercooler piping should I just go to a larger FMIC or would I get boost Lag off that stock turbo? Seriously I thought i knew alot of Turbo stuff but IM getting a quick reality check on this car. Mabey keep it stock, then is there a digital boost controller I can tune to that waste gate to keep the boost a little lower that 14 lbs cause Id feel more comfortable running like what 7-9 around town then 14 to eat some ricer. But what can change the boost pressure on the fly, digitally? Apexi or greddy I know both make an electronic one on ebay for about 250ish. And does anyone have an old turbo laying in thier garage rom thier upgrade? Just hit me up, (and o yea if you have one jake just keep that peice of shit you cockface.)
Little hostile are we? First you can run a 14b with no supporting mods just fine, you could even run 16psi no problem, fmic would cost more than just IC pipes but worth it in the long run if you plan on going big. I think my 14b is sold, but if the buyer backs out I'll let you know. Otherwise I could probably get my hands on a 14b or T25 if you want

Yeah but its sounds like he is looking for RELIABLE and EASY, so that rules out a bunch of fabricating.

Off-Topic: How did you tune your ECU to run the bigger injectors required for that 16G???? :rolleyes:

I had stock injectors at the time, i just kept the boost down a little. It worked just fine and noticed a huge difference over the shit T-25. But now i have DSMLINK :ylsuper: and cannot wait to play with it this spring.

Little hostile are we? First you can run a 14b with no supporting mods just fine, you could even run 16psi no problem, fmic would cost more than just IC pipes but worth it in the long run if you plan on going big. I think my 14b is sold, but if the buyer backs out I'll let you know. Otherwise I could probably get my hands on a 14b or T25 if you want

I talked to Kevin about it a couple of years ago, he said not to do it unless you are going to do supporting mods for it.

I don't see why you cant. A 14b came stock on a 1g and its basically the same setup(injector sizing ect) I was running a 14b with no mods for a long time which isnt a big deal because 1. The stock injectors max out around 30lbs/min and a 14b makes about the same numbers. theoretically you could max out a 14b on a stock 2g because you will never see air flow above 30 lbs/min and the fuel system will handle that, but you would need an intercooler upgrade because at that boost level the turbo would be quite hot

I went and dug up the thread where Kevin talked about me swapping in my 14b(which is still sitting in my parents garage:banghead:). Its up to you, what you want to do.

14B Thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148215)

Sounds to me like he said go for it but dont run over 18psi, I know first hand that you can do that since I did it for 6 months with no problem. I cant find it at the moment but someone started a thread about what the could run on a 14b and I believe it was scottsee that said that the stock fuel system can handle anything a 14b can throw at it as long as you keep the intake temps down with a fmic. All I can say is put it on and find out for yourself

It sounded like to me that you shouldn't boost it without being able to tune/monitor what was happening. He was also running those psi's with a Supra sidemount which is better than my stock pos. But I would always rather error on the side of caution than not, thus my 14B is on a shelf.

Whatever floats your boat man, not trying to act like I'm telling you what to do or anything. Its smart that you're waiting for DSMlink I'm guessing but I was just telling you that from my experences that it will work just fine:wink:

so get a larger fmic, 14b turbo... and then boost controller... apexi? and keep around 16-18 max psi right? hit me up if you got any ideas (like stuff gathering dust in your closet) and does the 14b bolt straight on? and would a tublar header help any? just throw ideas at me. im getting a loan tommroe for 3000 and im paying off the car for around 1300 that I owe and a couple other bills but i freeded up around 2300 for my car. thats the turbo them im going stock 97 front bumper,black halos,lip,new driver fender, and stock side skirts, and a hood. nothing ricer just all cleaaaannn. so dont get excited I dont need a damn race car Im buying a 91 gsx soon for that. I want this one around like 13.5ish enought to hold around a ws6 ta stock.

so get a larger fmic, 14b turbo... and then boost controller... apexi? and keep around 16-18 max psi right? hit me up if you got any ideas (like stuff gathering dust in your closet) and does the 14b bolt straight on? and would a tublar header help any? just throw ideas at me. im getting a loan tommroe for 3000 and im paying off the car for around 1300 that I owe and a couple other bills but i freeded up around 2300 for my car. thats the turbo them im going stock 97 front bumper,black halos,lip,new driver fender, and stock side skirts, and a hood. nothing ricer just all cleaaaannn. so dont get excited I dont need a damn race car Im buying a 91 gsx soon for that. I want this one around like 13.5ish enought to hold around a ws6 ta stock.


I personally would just get a Joe-P MBC(set and forget), the 14B will bolt to the stock exhast manifold, but you need some other items for it. I believe RRE sells an install kit for it for around a $100, but you could probably piece one together. People have had pretty good luck with E-bay FMIC's but watch out for SSautochrome, they have shit parts and will rip you off(from what I am told). Hope that helps. ;)

Theres actually alot of threads going around about ebay cores and there was that big group buy ss auto chrome fmic kit and I guess it was actually pretty good but I agree that as a rule would be stay away from them at all costs otherwise I agree completly with you joe-p and an install kit

so ok... An install kit what do you mean? is it like a different dump or what.. lol Like a different bov what does that take too? so im looking at a 14b, intercooler?, piping for sure, and a bov, greddy bov?, boost controller can you send me a link? hit me with like some ebay ones and ill get my loan soon. so i can just buy it all. keep it bolt on with small mods cause I dont have any dsm professionals around here. unless someone wants to come to amarillo texas and help me lol. The offer is on the table for install help, i can get some beer, pay for your gas, and just kick it lol. But fo sho send some ebay or other site links. anyone have a parts car laying around I need interior crap cause this all got spray painted lol. I gotta get this beast runnin clean and dependable lol.

For the boost controler... you can pick up a manual boost controler pretty cheap(thats what I have). As for the BOV the greddy type S is very nice but, if your looking for something cheap people have very good things to say about the 1g BOVs. As for the FMIC, I bought one from ssautochrome from the group buy and I am in the process of installing it. It "looks" nice and should be good but, it is a pain in the ass to get on. Parts don't all match up and I am missing some things from them. So if you don't mind doing some physical work then go for the ebay fmic. Or go for the name brand and pay more for less physical work. Here is a website that you can just browse and check out stuff. www.dsmparts.com

you should be able to find everything we talked about from these vendors.

Vendors
(http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=442393)

ok so a boost controller... A manual one form ebay im thinking... and then a t25 or the 16 turbo? whats really the differene with installation? And if im using a boost controller where does it mount? boost gauge install ation is it easy? whats a safe boost pressure for a stock gst? then a bov, is there a special kit to make one fit on my car? do i seal off the old line that feeds back into the air chamber? Or can i just get the hard top peice with a mounting spot on it? please respond lol i gotta get stuff done quick style.