Future mod, Maybe
OffRoadSonoma
03-04-2006, 01:13 PM
I have a '96 Lumina, 3.1l. I was wondering how much nitrous these motors can take if any or will I just blow the intake and head gaskets?
richtazz
03-04-2006, 01:20 PM
The intakes are weak, plus it's a multiport injected engine, so you'd need a fogger style nitrous system (with individual injector nozzles). Otherwise, your upper plenum may achieve orbit.
OffRoadSonoma
03-04-2006, 06:32 PM
I see. Looks like I'll stick to cruising in that car.
1993LUMINATOR
03-05-2006, 08:16 PM
l actuly created a 6ported upper intake for nitres, BUT only draw back was it had to be a pure connector so more less a 500shot unless u want to slightly open the obttle by hand to acheave a centon pressor"
so it was like full open bottle its going full out so little open bottle little comes out
Brad
so it was like full open bottle its going full out so little open bottle little comes out
Brad
OffRoadSonoma
03-05-2006, 10:17 PM
So are there any other mods to up the performance of the 3.1 or an air filter is pretty much it? Like I can keep up with 6 cylinder cameros and stuff but I would like to blow them away and be able to just laugh at them at the next stop light. Ya know.
OffRoadSonoma
03-05-2006, 10:21 PM
What about boost? A mild turbo or maybe even a supercharger. I know the 3.1's will neve keep up with the 3.8 super's but is it worth it or will I have to completely rebuild the motor?
comptech_69
03-06-2006, 10:31 AM
I was going to say swap in a turbocharged 3800 :grinyes:
There is a guy over on http://www.wbodysource.com his name is Vindaloo... He's really cool and knows alot obout the 3.1L engines and getting more power out of them. Also, the owner of wbodysourse also administers http://www.60degreev6.com which is a website dedicated solely to the 60* V6 engines (like our 3.1L).
There is a guy over on http://www.wbodysource.com his name is Vindaloo... He's really cool and knows alot obout the 3.1L engines and getting more power out of them. Also, the owner of wbodysourse also administers http://www.60degreev6.com which is a website dedicated solely to the 60* V6 engines (like our 3.1L).
1993LUMINATOR
03-06-2006, 11:21 AM
Hey l also know about the 3.1 tuning been working for over 7years actuly pretty much know the 3.1 in and outLOL boosting or SC
or hell the ASG V8 swap theres so maney
if you got e-mail heres my contact catton_brad@hotmail.com
or hell the ASG V8 swap theres so maney
if you got e-mail heres my contact catton_brad@hotmail.com
OffRoadSonoma
03-06-2006, 03:05 PM
So is your 3.1 boosted 1993LUMINATOR?
1993LUMINATOR
03-06-2006, 04:55 PM
na my 93's non boosted BUT l did have a rough set up only ran into problems over boost pipes and coil cooler line issue And stupid Map sencer not reading correctly
But my old 91 was non boosted and we tweaker added and re tweaked made 340hp at a guestimation
Brad
But my old 91 was non boosted and we tweaker added and re tweaked made 340hp at a guestimation
Brad
comptech_69
03-06-2006, 05:18 PM
I don't see a 3.1 making that much HP... They have turbo'd 3.1L's (the McLarens) and they dont make near that much. the engine would fall apart with that much horsepower unless you completely rebuilt it
1993LUMINATOR
03-06-2006, 07:31 PM
ya man it was a built motor best 8grand l ever spent, unforchinatly to crash it and blow the engine up at he same time. allways got video and pisc to remeber it by
Brad
PS also that was a guestamation coulda been less coulda been more never had it dynoed all l know was l out ran cops faster then ever and keeping up with local 500+hp comaros
my only regret was not being able to find a forged stell timming set so l was allways continusinly settign and re setting that stupid gear
Brad
PS also that was a guestamation coulda been less coulda been more never had it dynoed all l know was l out ran cops faster then ever and keeping up with local 500+hp comaros
my only regret was not being able to find a forged stell timming set so l was allways continusinly settign and re setting that stupid gear
OffRoadSonoma
03-06-2006, 09:03 PM
You're talking out your ass. Please do not do that. Ass-talking is not welcome in the AF>
Eurosport94
03-06-2006, 09:08 PM
What about boost? A mild turbo or maybe even a supercharger. I know the 3.1's will neve keep up with the 3.8 super's but is it worth it or will I have to completely rebuild the motor?
the only way to get boost out of a 3.1 MPFI would be to swap in the 3.1 from a 1989-1990 turbo Grand Prix. thats the easiest, and cheapest. anything else you'd be spending WAY to much money on for just a 3.1
Another route for high HP is swapping in the L67(3800 Series II Supercharged V6 out of GP GTP, Regal GS, etc)
check out w-body.com's forums. there are a couple guys who have done the 3.1 turbo swap and are running around 12-14psi. the hp isnt rediculous(around 230 to the wheels) but the torque is insane(272-330 ft. lbs)
btw there is No supercharger for the 3.1. RSM racing had one, but for $4500 it only added IIRC 80 hp
the only way to get boost out of a 3.1 MPFI would be to swap in the 3.1 from a 1989-1990 turbo Grand Prix. thats the easiest, and cheapest. anything else you'd be spending WAY to much money on for just a 3.1
Another route for high HP is swapping in the L67(3800 Series II Supercharged V6 out of GP GTP, Regal GS, etc)
check out w-body.com's forums. there are a couple guys who have done the 3.1 turbo swap and are running around 12-14psi. the hp isnt rediculous(around 230 to the wheels) but the torque is insane(272-330 ft. lbs)
btw there is No supercharger for the 3.1. RSM racing had one, but for $4500 it only added IIRC 80 hp
comptech_69
03-06-2006, 09:11 PM
...check out w-body.com's forums. there are a couple guys who have done the 3.1 turbo swap and are running around 12-14psi. the hp isnt rediculous(around 230 to the wheels) but the torque is insane(272-330 ft. lbs)
If you go to w-body, I would be extremely careful what you say. I use to frequent there well over a year ago, but the immiturity level is ridiculous.
If you go to w-body, I would be extremely careful what you say. I use to frequent there well over a year ago, but the immiturity level is ridiculous.
1993LUMINATOR
03-07-2006, 07:24 AM
ya l'm sure l am talking out of my ass.
how about l give you my business card and to prove l'm not bullshiter you bring ur ass here and check out the car and all its intergity whats left sitting in my backyard.
no no there is a way to boost a unboosted from factory 3.1
unlike most of you guys l have way tooo much free time on my hands to figure things out
Brad
If you want power options l'll give you the damn number to my machinest he still has the drawings of the parts l used
how about l give you my business card and to prove l'm not bullshiter you bring ur ass here and check out the car and all its intergity whats left sitting in my backyard.
no no there is a way to boost a unboosted from factory 3.1
unlike most of you guys l have way tooo much free time on my hands to figure things out
Brad
If you want power options l'll give you the damn number to my machinest he still has the drawings of the parts l used
jeffcoslacker
03-07-2006, 07:47 AM
Let me get my boots on....it's getting deep.
I'll take that phone number, please.
I'll take that phone number, please.
OffRoadSonoma
03-07-2006, 08:22 AM
comptech_69
03-07-2006, 11:30 AM
1993LUMINATOR
03-07-2006, 03:02 PM
so what number you want? my number or the machinest
anywho heres the write up
forged inturnals,3.4crank,stage 3 cam,ported,polished heads,board upper lower intake,roller rockers,foged rods,flat bottem lobes,computer tuned by ECr's of guelph
so naybody knwo where to host a 2bg video so l can post up my build and put all you non thinkers to shame?
Brad
anywho heres the write up
forged inturnals,3.4crank,stage 3 cam,ported,polished heads,board upper lower intake,roller rockers,foged rods,flat bottem lobes,computer tuned by ECr's of guelph
so naybody knwo where to host a 2bg video so l can post up my build and put all you non thinkers to shame?
Brad
Eurosport94
03-07-2006, 03:55 PM
If you go to w-body, I would be extremely careful what you say. I use to frequent there well over a year ago, but the immiturity level is ridiculous.
compared to who's yours?? IIRC YOU were the one who got banned my friend:rofl:
compared to who's yours?? IIRC YOU were the one who got banned my friend:rofl:
Eurosport94
03-07-2006, 03:57 PM
so what number you want? my number or the machinest
anywho heres the write up
forged inturnals,3.4crank,stage 3 cam,ported,polished heads,board upper lower intake,roller rockers,foged rods,flat bottem lobes,computer tuned by ECr's of guelph
so naybody knwo where to host a 2bg video so l can post up my build and put all you non thinkers to shame?
Brad
sounds good..is all that custom work? cause there aint shyte for the 3.1
minus the little stuff+ a cam from Crane
anywho heres the write up
forged inturnals,3.4crank,stage 3 cam,ported,polished heads,board upper lower intake,roller rockers,foged rods,flat bottem lobes,computer tuned by ECr's of guelph
so naybody knwo where to host a 2bg video so l can post up my build and put all you non thinkers to shame?
Brad
sounds good..is all that custom work? cause there aint shyte for the 3.1
minus the little stuff+ a cam from Crane
jeffcoslacker
03-07-2006, 06:59 PM
so what number you want? my number or the machinest
anywho heres the write up
forged inturnals,3.4crank,stage 3 cam,ported,polished heads,board upper lower intake,roller rockers,foged rods,flat bottem lobes,computer tuned by ECr's of guelph
so naybody knwo where to host a 2bg video so l can post up my build and put all you non thinkers to shame?
Brad
Stage 3 what cam? That's a pretty generic term. I need Lift, duration, overlap, etc.
anywho heres the write up
forged inturnals,3.4crank,stage 3 cam,ported,polished heads,board upper lower intake,roller rockers,foged rods,flat bottem lobes,computer tuned by ECr's of guelph
so naybody knwo where to host a 2bg video so l can post up my build and put all you non thinkers to shame?
Brad
Stage 3 what cam? That's a pretty generic term. I need Lift, duration, overlap, etc.
comptech_69
03-07-2006, 08:19 PM
compared to who's yours?? IIRC YOU were the one who got banned my friend:rofl:
And the board's maturitly level still stood at the level of most 12 year olds :shakehead
And the board's maturitly level still stood at the level of most 12 year olds :shakehead
Eurosport94
03-08-2006, 11:03 PM
And the board's maturitly level still stood at the level of most 12 year olds :shakehead
dont get all hissy just cause people hated u there.....
dont get all hissy just cause people hated u there.....
comptech_69
03-09-2006, 03:08 PM
dont get all hissy just cause people hated u there.....
Yeah, the band of 12yr olds? :lol:
And FYI; I purposely got the ban stick, I only had a 2 day CH for telling Hokem where to go... Wasn't any skin off my back
Yeah, the band of 12yr olds? :lol:
And FYI; I purposely got the ban stick, I only had a 2 day CH for telling Hokem where to go... Wasn't any skin off my back
Eurosport94
03-09-2006, 04:26 PM
Yeah, the band of 12yr olds? :lol:
And FYI; I purposely got the ban stick, I only had a 2 day CH for telling Hokem where to go... Wasn't any skin off my back
you're gonna get assholes no matter what forum you're on
btw...didnt you sign up again as 92LuminaRS????????????:icon16:
And FYI; I purposely got the ban stick, I only had a 2 day CH for telling Hokem where to go... Wasn't any skin off my back
you're gonna get assholes no matter what forum you're on
btw...didnt you sign up again as 92LuminaRS????????????:icon16:
comptech_69
03-09-2006, 04:35 PM
True, but it's all in how the management handles it; which dosn't seem to be handled appropriately over there. I signed up on another username GothImportKiller and wasn't exactly nice to Jeremy; IIRC I had something quite obnoxious about him in my sig. That's why I got the banstick, totally worth it too. I just browse the forums every so often to see if I can get any useful info, I have no need to post anything really. I don't even post here that often
Eurosport94
03-09-2006, 07:00 PM
ahha....theres a guy on w-body 92LuminaRS, i saw in your sig here you had "1992 Lumina RS Conversion and you're both from NY
put 2 and 2 together, unless theres 2 '92 maroon base luminas with owners going an RS conversion:lol:
put 2 and 2 together, unless theres 2 '92 maroon base luminas with owners going an RS conversion:lol:
comptech_69
03-10-2006, 10:27 AM
I'm actually from Vermont though, not NY. And yes I did buy a maroon Lumina not too long ago, I stole the idea off w-body when I was browsing the forms, it seemed like a cool idea IMO...
We need to stop whoring this guys thread also; Although it is good for the post count :lol:
We need to stop whoring this guys thread also; Although it is good for the post count :lol:
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