poll:do you like how it looks?

I think this looks too much like BWM for my taste. I don't like it. I prefer the older Lincoln styling, like that of my car.
What do you guys think?

When I first saw it on the Cover of C&D, I screamed:
Wow!! Nissan Cedric is coming to US!!!
http://www.webtick.com/igorsush/cedric.htm
The it does not look as close to the New Cedric you see, but the previous version is like almost an exact copy... if I can just find a pic of the old Cedric..

Its just a rename I believe. The Cedric was the Maxima a long time ago, and it could be just a rebadge. But since then it has grown away from the maxima, and into a larger luxo sedan. This will be a great move IMO.

I like the LS's looks a lot.

I think it looks much better than it's sister ship the Jag S Type although the Jag has a nicer interior.

Definite thumbs up . . .

The LS is the sporty exclamation point that Lincoln has sincerely need to punctuate their dreary run-on statement of luxury . . .

It shows that Detroit has finally waken up to realize that the Autobahn stormers will continue to be the consumers choice for luxury automobiles until American auto makers ante up and build a competitive product . . .

A SERIOUSLY competitive product that is, not just a car aimed at the same market niche . . . but rather a performer that is more than fit to dash through the twisties with aplomb, and proudly take it's place among the ranks of the performance luxury elite . . .

:huh: ur calling the LS sporty??? It feels sporty but is far from sporty. The Mark 7 and 8 were alot more sporty than the LS. and a lot faster. the LS has a 0-60 time of 8 seconds, and thats supposed to be sporty when the competitors are running under 6? The mark's could run the 0-60 time of under 6.

Well . . . good point.

The Marks are not really known as performance sedans though. Their power potential is one of the points that isn't often mentioned in marketing them.

Not only that, but SPORTINESS does not only take into account straight line performance. 0-60 times are only a part of the equation. I sincerely doubt that the Marks would come anywhere near the taught handling characteristics of some of the competitors . . . most notably the German makes. 0-60 times in the sub-6 region are great, but the floating-boat suspension makes your point moot.

Don't get me wrong . . . I see what you're saying, and I agree . . . It's just that the LS is the first open attempt at a sport sedan that I've ever known of from the Lincoln camp . . . and a fairly good attempt in my opinion . . .

To be honest, I don't know what to think of it. It looks like a cross from a Lexus LS, and uummmm. I don't know. Is that car gonna be coming out here?

It's been here! . . . it was BORN here . . . I KNOW you've seen one before . . . you had to!

It's got a few nice features from what I can recall . . . the only one I can remember is the heated wipers . . . anybody remember other features?

I've seen the LS's, just not the one that Igor has linked in his post. That's the one I'm referring to. Sorry.

I see . . . :)

i see them around all the time, i think they look pretty sweet

I know its an old topic and all, but I'm new here and I need to raise my post count so I can my pretty little logo :D!

I like the new LS's but don't like that there are 2 engine choices. It should be 'you want an LS - you get the V8'.

And as for the Marks not handling well - go take one for a spin. I guarentue you will love it. Then, imagine that sucker with 17" rims, and poly bushings. They come with airbags on all corners for suspension, and they go as far as lowering the car a bit once a certain speed is reached for increased stability. And I think the Cougar handles nice....

The LS looks kicks serious arse. It's curves are perfect, superior to other 'luxury sports'. It's fast. Whoever called it slow must've been running the 0-60 time uphill or something... I'd have 10 of 'em if I had money, but K-Mart doesn't pay 16 y/o's very well...

I own one and think its a great car! Slow.....says who? I dont know where you get your numbers but its definitly not slow.:iceslolan

Wow, alot changed with me since 2 days before 9/11 :eek: !

Seems like ages ago I joined AF and didn't have a logo :D!

So, like I said - things changed. I've become the owner of a used Y2K LS, a Black V8 Sport.

Slow? Yes - unfortunately. I had it at the track last night (cool air, 900ft elevation), and only got 16.5 in the 1/4. Fast? Nope!

However, take it into the corners - a curve that my XR7 can't hold 70kph on, the Lincoln takes at over 100 and probably could have gone faster. But, I drive within MY limits, not my car's.

Despite the Linc being slow and resembling a BMW, it gets alot of looks, is very well built, reliable, soaks up bumps well, handles great, and is very nice to drive.

I was comparing the car to others like it. Its quick is a better word for the large sport sedan. Does anyone know the curb weight of the car?

About 4000 lbs.

The '03 (280 HP) has a listed 0-60 of 6.4 seconds. My '00 can probably do it in 7 or less (never clocked it). It's not a drag car, It's a touring car. You want a drag racer? Buy one. Then you can complain about how noisy and uncomfortable it is to drive on long trips....and about how much gas it uses to get you from home to work.

Back on topic...
I love the way the LS looks. It's understated and subtle design is beautiful. I like driving a "sleeper". If I wanted something loud, tasteless, and obnoxious, I'd have bought a CTS.

I especially like the front quarter of the car. The slim front fender and long wheelbase combine to create a substantial look without seeming bloated.

I like the 2001 style, not the newest style, especially i like the 2001 LS V8 Sport with those chrome 5-spoke wheels

I agree....its a very nice sedan. I have a loud fast car..so its nice to get into a comfortable quiet car.

:huh: ur calling the LS sporty??? It feels sporty but is far from sporty. The Mark 7 and 8 were alot more sporty than the LS. and a lot faster. the LS has a 0-60 time of 8 seconds, and thats supposed to be sporty when the competitors are running under 6? The mark's could run the 0-60 time of under 6.

There is no way that an Mark could keep up with an LS on a autocross track. The mark might have straight line acceleration advantage (which I doubt, the Mark 8 had 180 hp and the LS has 285 hp and I have to believe the LS weighs alot less). The Mark was built on the old Tbird body. The LS is on a new body that has 50/50 weight distribution. The LS is faster on a AC coarse than the Bimmer 5 series. Are you saying that a mark 8 can do that. I dont't think so. Especially not a Mark 7. I raced a BMW 330 with my old LS 6 and I beat it until we let off at about 60 mph. That is pretty sporty. I have not been in a Mark 8 for about 8 years, but I would love to run one in my LS 8.

I agree that a LS would stomp a Mark in the corners, but the Marks with the 4.6 were beasts. I don't have the numbers but they could be easily be worked into the 300+ hp range.

Hey Chris, what's up man? Kevin from LLSOC here.

Again, alot of time has passes since I first got my used Lincoln and posted here.

She's faster now, due to a computer change, and a much needed thorough tune-up. But still not a drag racer, huh ;)?

Mark 8 vs LS? Straight line, the Mark 8 wins. They're a 14 second car in the 1/4, OK? LS is at best - low 15's.

Twisties - LS all the way.

Hi Kevin! I thought I was the only one in here! That's a real nice picture, BTW. Great angle, treatment, and LOVE the grill! Too bad about the front plate...I've got one, too. :(

A friend described the Lincoln LS as "matronly." I agree. The lines are a little boxy without a hint of sportiness in my opinion. Looks aside, I love my '2004 LS for it's handling properties. It handles the twisties like it was on rails. I only hope that it provide long term reliability.

Roger