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Modded GT vs MODDED SRT-4


98StangGT
02-27-2006, 12:02 PM
Alright so I have a friend (even though I hate him) who has a mildy modded SRT-4. Not positive what his mods are but I know he has the boost upped and a bunch of bolt ons (exhaust intake etc...). He wants to race my Mustang after I told him about the other SRT-4 victories. We wanted to race at the track, however it wont be open until it is done getting resurfaced and what not. So we are going to race on an open road near here known as the "quartermile". He is pretty sure he can beat me but I am also pretty confident. My mods are

VT Stage 1 Cams
Zex 100-125 Shot
Mildly ported and polished heads
4.10 Gears
CAI
Throttle Body + Plenum
Midpipe
Catback
SCT Tune

If we do decide to race on the track later during the summer I will put on my slicks/skinnies and put back on the launch springs. My fastest time with everything on was 11.8 with a 1.69 60ft. Any predictions for the race on the street. I'm sure I would win hands down on the strip. But I would be on street tires/suspension for the street race...

stangbuster
02-27-2006, 12:17 PM
dude, you should eat him alive...I was in a stock '04 MACH 1 this weekend and we smoked a stock(as far as I know) SRT-4. I realize that you only have 2 cams, but with the head work and intake work you should hold your own easily. Im thinking that a stock GT w/ 4.10s would pull on an SRT-4. Dont let forced induction scare you. Most of the best cars Iv seen were all motor N/A... Just be sure your tires are warm and sticky for a good launch. I assume you always run 93 octane? If not I would start...Seems to work great in my buddies MACH.
Good Luck smoking him, get it on camera...
BTW dont use the n2o unless you have to, I wouldnt think you would need it. We really smoked that SRT-4 this weekend, pulled like 2 bus lengths...

98StangGT
02-27-2006, 12:59 PM
Yeah I have to run 93Octane in order to avoid detonation. Damn advanced timing :frown:

RJG
02-27-2006, 02:45 PM
A stock GT should be about the same as a stock or mildly modded SRT-4. You should kill him.

2003chevcav
02-27-2006, 02:48 PM
Alright so I have a friend (even though I hate him) who has a mildy modded SRT-4. Not positive what his mods are but I know he has the boost upped and a bunch of bolt ons (exhaust intake etc...). He wants to race my Mustang after I told him about the other SRT-4 victories. We wanted to race at the track, however it wont be open until it is done getting resurfaced and what not. So we are going to race on an open road near here known as the "quartermile". He is pretty sure he can beat me but I am also pretty confident. My mods are

VT Stage 1 Cams
Zex 100-125 Shot
Mildly ported and polished heads
4.10 Gears
CAI
Throttle Body + Plenum
Midpipe
Catback
SCT Tune

If we do decide to race on the track later during the summer I will put on my slicks/skinnies and put back on the launch springs. My fastest time with everything on was 11.8 with a 1.69 60ft. Any predictions for the race on the street. I'm sure I would win hands down on the strip. But I would be on street tires/suspension for the street race...

Considering the mods you have I dont think you have anything to worry about in a street race. The giggle juice will surely put you on top. As much as I like the SRT-4, my vote is for your stang.

G-man422
02-27-2006, 03:00 PM
sounds to me like you will crush him. let us know how it goes.

Turbodog97
02-27-2006, 03:53 PM
Is he shit talking or something? A midly modified car versus a heavliy modified car...? Unless you are just trying to put him in his place then I don't even see why you would bother with him...

xAUTOxRACERx
02-27-2006, 05:13 PM
Is he shit talking or something? A midly modified car versus a heavliy modified car...? Unless you are just trying to put him in his place then I don't even see why you would bother with him...

Yeah seriously what is going on here.

Mustang dude just race your friend and get it over with :naughty:

TatII
02-27-2006, 06:03 PM
yeah man with a 11 second time slip you should have no problem with him.

TheStang00
02-27-2006, 06:19 PM
Is he shit talking or something? A midly modified car versus a heavliy modified car...? Unless you are just trying to put him in his place then I don't even see why you would bother with him...

why do you srt4 guys always get so pissed off? you dont see us mustang guys bitchin when you post a kill on us... hes not shit talking.

Drifty
02-27-2006, 08:19 PM
NO stang00.. what happen was he's still bitter from he's previous thread.. im not gonna talk shit but, just Run it then post your results, if you win then hey congrats if you lose then better luck next time!

BullDog71ss
02-27-2006, 08:38 PM
A stock GT should be about the same as a stock or mildly modded SRT-4. You should kill him.


Nah, stock vs. stock the srt would dominate a 98 gt in everything and the srt will most likely kill a 99+ gt in the 1/4 and would definetly kill one on a roll.


However, as far as this race is concerned the GT is going to win. I also thought bench racing was forbiden on here...?

youngvr4
02-27-2006, 08:43 PM
bench racing is needed to a certain degree. FACTS!!!

these 2 cars have very very similar times, it will be close all around

Mustang GT
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Engine : V8, SOHC, front engine RWD
Displacement : 4,605 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 2 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 4-spd automatic
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 24-26 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Live axle
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 260 hp @ 5250 rpm
Torque : 302 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : unknown

Top speed : 140 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.1 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.2 sec @ 98.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 135 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.84 g

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Overall length : 183.5 in.
Wheelbase : 101.3 in.
Overall Width : 73.1 in.
Height : 53.1 in.(coupe), 53.5 in.(convertible)

and i wouldnt assume he's gonna win, the srt-4 could be just as modded or more then he is for all we know

98StangGT
02-27-2006, 08:50 PM
Results are in.....

Note:It was pretty close to a quartermile length of road, may be more, may be less.

Race One: From a dig. Me on spray (125) with street tires/suspension
Had a little too much spin to be considered a good launch (used to launching with slicks + drag suspension), but pretty good over all. Completely took him. Didn't really look back but I'm sure I had buslengths on him.

Race Two: From a dig. Me on motor.
Much better launch, but still not perfect. Took him by a few lengths at the end of the quartermile... Much closer race.

Race Three: From a 40MPH roll. Me on spray + had to gear down.
Started pulling pretty hard once I geared down. Had him by about a car at 90 or so when I shut down...


So there you have it folks....

We plan to race again at the track when we get a chance... He has plans for a full stage 1 upgrade and he is pretty sure he will be able to beat me....

I will be running slicks/skinnies with full drag suspension and possibly a 150 shot....

BullDog71ss
02-27-2006, 08:58 PM
Nice kill, figured you'd take the win!

TheStang00
02-27-2006, 09:30 PM
good kill

CassiesMan
02-27-2006, 10:39 PM
Wait, thats impossible. We all know that, like the LS1 powered cars, the Supra Twin Turbo, and the Skyline, that all SRT4s are unbeatable.






























Just playing. Nice kills man, way to stick it to him. I love how you start off with, I have a freind even though I hate him.

2000LS1Z28
02-28-2006, 02:43 AM
Does the word overkill ring a bell to you. Your car will more then murder him, especially on the shot.

xAUTOxRACERx
02-28-2006, 10:53 AM
Nice run.

BullDog71ss
02-28-2006, 03:57 PM
I love how you start off with, I have a freind even though I hate him.



I have one of those...he's a ford guy so I have no choice but to hate him. :grinyes:

Muscletang
02-28-2006, 06:51 PM
Nice kill.

2000LS1Z28
02-28-2006, 09:29 PM
Results are in.....

Note:It was pretty close to a quartermile length of road, may be more, may be less.

Race One: From a dig. Me on spray (125) with street tires/suspension
Had a little too much spin to be considered a good launch (used to launching with slicks + drag suspension), but pretty good over all. Completely took him. Didn't really look back but I'm sure I had buslengths on him.

Race Two: From a dig. Me on motor.
Much better launch, but still not perfect. Took him by a few lengths at the end of the quartermile... Much closer race.

Race Three: From a 40MPH roll. Me on spray + had to gear down.
Started pulling pretty hard once I geared down. Had him by about a car at 90 or so when I shut down...


So there you have it folks....

We plan to race again at the track when we get a chance... He has plans for a full stage 1 upgrade and he is pretty sure he will be able to beat me....

I will be running slicks/skinnies with full drag suspension and possibly a 150 shot....


I missed this post. Nice kill.

I have yet to see a stock 99+ Stang GT run a stock SRT-4 from a roll. I think it would be really close.

209 SRT
02-28-2006, 10:46 PM
I wanted to ask you this before your other thread got closed......you said in your last thread that was the first time you raced a srt and wanted to know what all the hype was about.....and you were dissapointed...with the outcome......but remembering your thread a while back when you said you raced one with your boosted crx with nozzzz..........http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=496906&highlight=98StangGT...and you smoked him by 7 car lengths.....if you already smoked one by 7 car lengths then why would you want to know what all the hype is about.......and you say that he thinks he will beat you with a full stage 1 hahahaha......dude then I seriously think you have basically raced a stock 03 srt......something just smells like fish here dude....

TheStang00
02-28-2006, 10:48 PM
I wanted to ask you this before your other thread got closed......you said in your last thread that was the first time you raced a srt and wanted to know what all the hype was about.....and you were dissapointed...with the outcome......but remembering your thread a while back when you said you raced one with your boosted crx with nozzzz..........http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=496906&highlight=98StangGT...and you smoked him by 7 car lengths.....if you already smoked one by 7 car lengths then why would you want to know what all the hype is about.......and you say that he thinks he will beat you with a full stage 1 hahahaha......dude then I seriously think you have basically raced a stock 03 srt......something just smells like fish here dude....

this is exactly what i was talking about with my first post...

this is all sour grapes! let it go man :disappoin

209 SRT
02-28-2006, 10:49 PM
dude, you should eat him alive...I was in a stock '04 MACH 1 this weekend and we smoked a stock(as far as I know) SRT-4. I realize that you only have 2 cams, but with the head work and intake work you should hold your own easily. Im thinking that a stock GT w/ 4.10s would pull on an SRT-4. Dont let forced induction scare you. Most of the best cars Iv seen were all motor N/A... Just be sure your tires are warm and sticky for a good launch. I assume you always run 93 octane? If not I would start...Seems to work great in my buddies MACH.
Good Luck smoking him, get it on camera...
BTW dont use the n2o unless you have to, I wouldnt think you would need it. We really smoked that SRT-4 this weekend, pulled like 2 bus lengths...

two bus lengths........:uhoh: ....I didnt know machs are as fast as vettes and cobras......

TheStang00
02-28-2006, 10:51 PM
^^ this also is what i was talking about with my first post...

the mach'd did run mid 13s, so with a good driver in the stang and a shitty driver in the srt4 i find it reasonable

209 SRT
02-28-2006, 10:58 PM
why do you srt4 guys always get so pissed off? you dont see us mustang guys bitchin when you post a kill on us... hes not shit talking.

I dont think anything endless said sounded pissed or nor should he....hes just stating the obvious.....a mustang that runs 11.8 vs a mildly bolt-on srt that runs a average of maybe a mid 13 at best......doesnt take a damn rocket scientist to figure this out......I think you mustang guys are getting a little touchy when we have something to say......

209 SRT
02-28-2006, 11:01 PM
^^ this also is what i was talking about with my first post...

the mach'd did run mid 13s, so with a good driver in the stang and a shitty driver in the srt4 i find it reasonable

stock for stock yes a mach is faster......but man bus lengths...he must have really been a shitty driver.....and you should know this..

209 SRT
02-28-2006, 11:03 PM
yeah man with a 11 second time slip you should have no problem with him.

damn tat old boy doing big things now huh......I like the new front end... cars looking clean bro keep up the good work....

CassiesMan
02-28-2006, 11:07 PM
I think everyone involved in the multitude of Mustangs v SRTs is taking everything a little to harshly. I say cage match...TWO GO IN, ONE COMES OUT!

TheStang00
02-28-2006, 11:12 PM
I dont think anything endless said sounded pissed or nor should he....hes just stating the obvious.....a mustang that runs 11.8 vs a mildly bolt-on srt that runs a average of maybe a mid 13 at best......doesnt take a damn rocket scientist to figure this out......I think you mustang guys are getting a little touchy when we have something to say......

:boink:

209 SRT
02-28-2006, 11:15 PM
:boink:

:thefinger .....hehe

TatII
03-01-2006, 12:45 AM
damn tat old boy doing big things now huh......I like the new front end... cars looking clean bro keep up the good work....

yeah i posted up pics in the O.T. section. but anyways, yeah i guess this shows that anything can happen on the street, cause on paper your suppose to wax the shit out of him, but he hung in there pretty good. and yeah i think he would need like a stage 4 ( it doesn't exist ) to beat you. haha Stage 3's are only 12 second cars.

Drifty
03-01-2006, 08:20 AM
tatt man its called the .50 trim turbo like R J-lo

98StangGT
03-01-2006, 08:51 AM
I wanted to ask you this before your other thread got closed......you said in your last thread that was the first time you raced a srt and wanted to know what all the hype was about.....and you were dissapointed...with the outcome......but remembering your thread a while back when you said you raced one with your boosted crx with nozzzz..........http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=496906&highlight=98StangGT...and you smoked him by 7 car lengths.....if you already smoked one by 7 car lengths then why would you want to know what all the hype is about.......and you say that he thinks he will beat you with a full stage 1 hahahaha......dude then I seriously think you have basically raced a stock 03 srt......something just smells like fish here dude....

Maybe you should get yourself a good shower then?

It was my first time racing one in my Stang. I have raced them in my CRX and my Eclipse. Never had a chance to race them in my Stang as it has pretty much been a garage decoration all winter.

98StangGT
03-01-2006, 08:56 AM
yeah i posted up pics in the O.T. section. but anyways, yeah i guess this shows that anything can happen on the street, cause on paper your suppose to wax the shit out of him, but he hung in there pretty good. and yeah i think he would need like a stage 4 ( it doesn't exist ) to beat you. haha Stage 3's are only 12 second cars.

Well there is a HUGE difference between when I race on the track and on the street. On the track I have full drag suspension, slicks and skinnies, and I spray a 125-150 shot.

209 SRT
03-01-2006, 04:39 PM
Maybe you should get yourself a good shower then?

It was my first time racing one in my Stang. I have raced them in my CRX and my Eclipse. Never had a chance to race them in my Stang as it has pretty much been a garage decoration all winter.

may be you should stay off that giggle gas and get your story straight....:wink:

If you really are as fast as you say then why waste your time on basically stock srts its pointless bro......try racing big turbo srts and then we could talk.....:iceslolan

209 SRT
03-01-2006, 04:40 PM
yeah i posted up pics in the O.T. section. but anyways, yeah i guess this shows that anything can happen on the street, cause on paper your suppose to wax the shit out of him, but he hung in there pretty good. and yeah i think he would need like a stage 4 ( it doesn't exist ) to beat you. haha Stage 3's are only 12 second cars.

haha tat silly old boy....you of all people should know that turbo cars arent limited to 12s........hehehe

98StangGT
03-01-2006, 05:53 PM
may be you should stay off that giggle gas and get your story straight....:wink:

If you really are as fast as you say then why waste your time on basically stock srts its pointless bro......try racing big turbo srts and then we could talk.....:iceslolan

Okay maybe you should read my first Mustang Vs SRT-4 again. It says very clearly that that was my first time racing and SRT-4 IN MY STANG. Quit trying to accuse me of being a liar....

And why is it that whenever I beat an SRT-4 you try to completely discredit it? If I beat one that's stock, I'm a loser because I had to be modded to beat one. If I beat one that's modded, I'm a loser because I had more mods... Yet I bet if an SRT-4 with tons more money invested than my car beat me, you'd be running and giggling to give it a handjob behind Taco Bell....

And I want to race a "big turbo" SRT-4.... Honestly, I do... However I'm not going to travel out of my little hick town to find one so I can. If one wanders to the local track, I sure as hell will race it. However until then, I will continue to race the ones I can find near here.

And if reading my posts about beating these things gets all wriled up, then maybe you shouldn't read my posts titled Mustang Vs SRT-4....

youngvr4
03-01-2006, 07:51 PM
you gotta point, i never heard any mustang guys coming to me saying "hay your vr4 is modded, thats why you beat that mustang gt"

not sure why there's these things bieng said

good kill is all, as i stated before

youngvr4
03-01-2006, 07:55 PM
I wanted to ask you this before your other thread got closed......you said in your last thread that was the first time you raced a srt and wanted to know what all the hype was about.....and you were dissapointed...with the outcome......but remembering your thread a while back when you said you raced one with your boosted crx with nozzzz..........http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=496906&highlight=98StangGT...and you smoked him by 7 car lengths.....if you already smoked one by 7 car lengths then why would you want to know what all the hype is about.......and you say that he thinks he will beat you with a full stage 1 hahahaha......dude then I seriously think you have basically raced a stock 03 srt......something just smells like fish here dude....

and at the same time, you have a point, your story's seem off, dont make sense completly?!?

you never raced one, but yet you have, but now you meant you never raced one with your stang, but yet your not impressed with them, though you have raced them before:banghead:

understand why that seems kinda wierd??

TheStang00
03-01-2006, 08:05 PM
what i dont understand is why anyone has to make a big deal of it. so what if a srt4 lost... OH THE THOUGHT OF IT!!!!!

theres no reason to get worked up because he has mods on his mustang or whatever. and so what if he didnt race a big turbo srt4. how about you go race a big turbo mustang... it can go both ways and its totally retarded.

youngvr4
03-01-2006, 08:14 PM
how about you go race a big turbo mustang... it can go both ways and its totally retarded.

best thing said in this forum in almost a year

maybe we need to crack down on people getting worked up about there car losing to a car equal power or faster. or period for that matter

thats like a ricey attitude:lol:

VR43000GT
03-01-2006, 08:17 PM
Everyone chill. :shakehead I like the SRT-4 as well but he raced an won. Who cares who had what mods and if the SRT didnt stand a chance, it seems like he had fun racing. I and most people on here have raced someone that never had a chance in hell agianst but it was just for kicks.

98StangGT
03-01-2006, 10:45 PM
and at the same time, you have a point, your story's seem off, dont make sense completly?!?

you never raced one, but yet you have, but now you meant you never raced one with your stang, but yet your not impressed with them, though you have raced them before:banghead:

understand why that seems kinda wierd??

Let me clarify. Prior to the earlier post about racing an SRT-4 in my Gt, I had never raced one IN MY STANG. I have raced them before, however I have a total of 3 cars (hopefully 4 soon if I get enough money for a fox body). I have raced an SRT4 in my CRX as well as my Eclipse. However a week and a half or so ago as the fist time racing one IN MY MUSTANG. Capiche?

youngvr4
03-01-2006, 11:20 PM
capiche? i'm assuming that means understand:iceslolan

209 SRT
03-01-2006, 11:29 PM
Okay maybe you should read my first Mustang Vs SRT-4 again. It says very clearly that that was my first time racing and SRT-4 IN MY STANG. Quit trying to accuse me of being a liar....

And why is it that whenever I beat an SRT-4 you try to completely discredit it? If I beat one that's stock, I'm a loser because I had to be modded to beat one. If I beat one that's modded, I'm a loser because I had more mods... Yet I bet if an SRT-4 with tons more money invested than my car beat me, you'd be running and giggling to give it a handjob behind Taco Bell....

And I want to race a "big turbo" SRT-4.... Honestly, I do... However I'm not going to travel out of my little hick town to find one so I can. If one wanders to the local track, I sure as hell will race it. However until then, I will continue to race the ones I can find near here.

And if reading my posts about beating these things gets all wriled up, then maybe you shouldn't read my posts titled Mustang Vs SRT-4....

now your trying to say it was the first time you raced one with your stang......ok if thats true then why would you be "dissapointed" as if that was the very first time you every ran one.......If you raced one with your crx and smoked it by 7 car lengths.....wouldnt you remember it being a "dissapointment" the first time......even with a different car it shouldnt matter cause you beat the srt on both accounts.......I just doesnt add up dude.....

as for discrediting you about beating a srt......bro I could seriously careless...if you beat one thats stock or modded.......and as far as a srt beating a mustang I could also careless......saying stuff like that is like me telling you if a mustang with turbo and 1000000 shot of nazzzz beat me YOU WOULD be running and giggling to give it a handjob behind Taco Bell....LOL

oh and trust me I am far from wired up....I just like to see the stuff your going to come up with next......:cwm27:

209 SRT
03-01-2006, 11:38 PM
what i dont understand is why anyone has to make a big deal of it. so what if a srt4 lost... OH THE THOUGHT OF IT!!!!!

theres no reason to get worked up because he has mods on his mustang or whatever. and so what if he didnt race a big turbo srt4. how about you go race a big turbo mustang... it can go both ways and its totally retarded.

thats my point who cares if a srt lost.....cause I dont....the fact is they could get beat alot.....I dont care its not me so why should I....why is every one think I am worked up......trust me I think you guys know me long enough to tell when I am hot and bothered.....see dont you see the smile on my face:) ......and the reason why I say why waste your time on basically stock srt and go race a big turbo srt is.......cause this guys is trying to find competition for his supposedly 11s car which if pretty rare for the street you know what im saying....

98StangGT
03-01-2006, 11:39 PM
So after a long-ass day of working I decide to go home and get myself a nice shower. As I get out of the shower the girlfriend calls and wants to hang out. I get dressed and head to pick her up. After I pick her up at her house (20 miles of highway away from mine) we take a nice more scenic route to town taking in the nice night. I'm just cruising around when I notice the overly homosexual spoiler of an SRT-4. I speed up a little bit and get side by side with it and look over. We are pacing each other for about 5 seconds when I hit my bottle opener and arming switch (100 dry shot). He speeds up for a second then slows down idicating that he wants to race. We get back side by side with each other and I give the 3 honks. He gets a slight jump on me because I still hadnt shifted down yet. I shift down to second going about 50 and floor it. I immediately start gaining on him. By about 100 I had atleast 3 cars on him. He falls back and I head on my way to town.

As we enter town my girlfriend and I decide to get something to eat at the health food store (I know, I know, I would have rather gotten Taco Bell too). After finishing our "organic" sandwiches, we head back and decide to drive around some more. We are just crusing through town when I see my SRT-4 driving friend again! I follow him for a while until god gave me the gift of being stuck with him at a light. This time I decide to run him without juice. So with my N20 unarmed, I give him a little rev. He revs back letting me hes interested. We wait a while at the long light. As it nears green I get ready. Once the light stuck green I was off (though with a little too much spin) pulling him off the line. It was all taillights for him all the way up to 80 with no sign of him pulling on me. As my first time racing one of these in my Stang', I really expected more of a fight. I guess they are more hype than I thought.



I have been saying that since the beginning. Holy Christ dude is it that difficult to understand? I never said it was my first time racing one ever. I said it was my first time racing one IN MY STANG... Quit being a tool, and just stop replying to my posts if you are going to be an utter sh!t-talking moron. Seriously, arguing with you is like trying to play tennis with a blind person...

CassiesMan
03-01-2006, 11:44 PM
If you really are as fast as you say then why waste your time on basically stock srts its pointless bro......try racing big turbo srts and then we could talk.....:iceslolan

Dude...thats like me syaing well I raced an SRT and lost, but I woulda won if he took off his turbo. Get over it. Your candy mobile lost, the Mustang was faster. If the SRT guy agreed to the race, then its fair. Its the way it goes.

209 SRT
03-01-2006, 11:44 PM
best thing said in this forum in almost a year

maybe we need to crack down on people getting worked up about there car losing to a car equal power or faster. or period for that matter

thats like a ricey attitude:lol:

like you said young......we go way back...even before your moderator days...and you still doubt my intelligence bro.....I am very........... dissapoint....haha....that word does get thrown around here alot....but for real....do you really think I am a typical skittle owner who only cares is they win and dont believe they lose and can be beatin.....if so then I guess you dont know me as well as you think......

-The Stig-
03-01-2006, 11:50 PM
is everybody done being butt hurt?


Good... now... let's all stop being E-thugs and get back to what we do... racin 'em cars.


Go forth... and bring back stories!!


:wink:

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