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Burnerdominator
02-26-2006, 02:17 AM
Ok for those of you who read my upcomming match between my bestfriend and me. It happened all day today. First race was just kinda a screw around we'd pace eachother and then fall in but then we found a nice smooth, straight, flat road. Geo storm gsi vs dodge avenger just so everyone else knows.

Race #1 From a dig. We stop and i honk it off 3 times. I floor it he downshifts and spins by the time he got off the line i had him by 3 cars and kept on pulling by the time i shutdown and flashed the hazards i had him by 2.5 bus lengths.

Race #2 20mph roll honk it off and my shitty low end torque doent let me pull he down shifts and pull 1 length. I caught and was at his nose and i gave a big wave and my g/f smirked and said "Dont toy with him hun." i look over and nod push the pedal to the road and blow him away.

Race #3 was a huge surprise 20 mph roll and blow him away when my most hated enemy showed up the grand prix gt supercharged we were at about 40 mph. I instantly wanted him i look over and its this smartass teen kid who was bitching that he was gonna waste my whole team. Me being the leader i had to take the challenge. I motion to stop he does and i honk it off him being a idiot but his car in neutral rev and at the 3rd honk i laugh as he sits there and spins and i got 3 cars on him. I look back hes finally coming but im still pulling on him and at 102 shut off flash my hazards he ricer flys by and keeps on going. My team mate pulls up and yells "We wont be hearing from him for a very longgg time." I smile nod and head to my house to watch a movie

NOTE during all these races there was 3 people in my car plus a 50 lbs subwoofer box. all in all i had a great time tonight and kicked the hell out of my worst enemy and showed my 2nd in command who was the leader around these parts.

UnderEstimate Me
02-26-2006, 02:36 AM
Nice kills. What are the specs on a dodge avenger? I dont know much about them.

Burnerdominator
02-26-2006, 02:45 AM
i dont know right off hand i think 196hp with 170lbs of torque i think i might be off a little bit on them i think they might be a bit more. The low end torque sucks all ass but after i get the rpms up she pulls like a high flow toilet.:grinyes: i dunno much else about the motors except there tough as hell and the car itself handles pretty damn nice.

95z28m6
02-26-2006, 11:22 AM
dude, hazards= ricer, lol nice races.

TheStang00
02-26-2006, 12:06 PM
dodge avenger has 163hp, not sure on the tq. a lot of what makes them faster than the 4 cyl is the tq though. nice kill on the gp, sounds like that guy was an idiot.

SuperHighOutput
02-26-2006, 01:07 PM
Nice kill on the GP, but race him from a roll and I can pretty much guarantee the result will be different, but that kid is an idiot for putting it in neutral.

Burnerdominator
02-26-2006, 01:21 PM
yeah i think he'd beat my ass if he could drive. but since he cant drive i think it would still be close.

Vtec95Civic
02-26-2006, 01:44 PM
You don't even know how much hp your own car has?

BigBL87
02-26-2006, 01:59 PM
yeah i think he'd beat my ass if he could drive. but since he cant drive i think it would still be close.

:werd: He doesn't even need to know how to drive well, just has to not be an idiot. With an auto, theres not much to it. You said it's a Grand Prix GT supercharged, is it one of the newer ones then? The GT's weren't supercharged until... 05 i think, maybe 04. Before that, GT's just had the N/A 3.8L engine, not a slouch but nothing like the supercharged. Either way, good races.

BlackGT2000
02-26-2006, 02:22 PM
I thought it was just the GTP's that were supercharged...until they started calling them GXPs, I guess I learn something new every day.

Sleepr awd
02-26-2006, 02:38 PM
i thought the 4cyl. avengers were faster than the v6's cuz of weight to power...

anyways..... what car did you race? i would think that if you were racing something and got him by 3 cars off the line and 2.5 buslengths later on... you were surely racing a metro or a pre-1989 civic sedan misfiring on a cylinder... or an automatic 4cyl eclipse :rofl:

209 SRT
02-26-2006, 02:45 PM
the geo maybe.......but if it was a gtp I dont know......those gtps are quick..

Burnerdominator
02-26-2006, 03:05 PM
Ok the reason i pulled 3 cars on him off the line is because he was power shifting by putting his car into neutral and then slamming into drive, that caused him to sit there and spin a whole heck of alot.

No i dont know alot of the specs on my car lol i know your prolly thinking "Then why the hell are you racing" Cuz its fun i only race because its a good thrill. The avenger is no racer is just a fun car i know the specs on what car im gonna buy and be a race car basically.

The pontiac grand prix gt super charged is called the gt yes because the gt is supercharged as a feature a person in my school got one.

stock avengers v6s run low 16 the 5 speed 4 cyl run high 15 middel 15s in a 1/4 mile

Stang00 taught me all about my car so if you want any more specs ask him

Vtec95Civic
02-26-2006, 03:11 PM
Avenger ES runs a high 16, low 17.

It's not a bad car, stupid move though to make the V6 only come in auto.

209 SRT
02-26-2006, 03:13 PM
not calling you a liar but to beat a car that is a usually consistant low 14s to high 13s car is kinda hard to take in you know what I mean.....but yes then again it WAS on the street and he was spinning of the line so I guess some..

BigBL87
02-26-2006, 04:11 PM
I thought it was just the GTP's that were supercharged...until they started calling them GXPs, I guess I learn something new every day.

I checked and 05 was the last year the GT's had the N/A 3.8, in 06 the base has the N/A 3.8L V6, the GT has the S/C 3.8L V6, and the GXP has the 5.3L V8. So I was off by one year. If it was any year before that it would have an N/A stock, although if you had enough money you could get the tranny and engine from a GTP and drop it into a GT body (or have a GTP and put GT badges on it, that would be more amusing).

Burnerdominator
02-26-2006, 07:30 PM
i dont know how much it matters but it was cold so if that matters i dunno. I will have to ask the one kid in my school with the supercharged grand prix for a race to see if hes bluffing.

Yeah they definatly shouldve made a 5 speed v6 avenger and that sucks.

CassiesMan
02-26-2006, 07:36 PM
Wow. This takes the place of the video I have of a local guy in a jeep racing like, a late 80s Civic as slowest races evar. Good kills...but what the hell is the deal with everyone having these "teams" and "crews". Is it like, that people are so self conscious that they can't go out on their own, that they have to have teams? And if your the leader of your team...wow.

209 SRT
02-26-2006, 07:45 PM
see what you do is go up to the fastest member in their team race him and you could say you could beat pretty much thier whole team........I did that once with my first gen......I ended up racing a EG hatch w/gsr swap and boltons.....I beat him by a half a car.......I didnt know he was the fastest car in his team until a week later......I just ran him for fun at the time.....

Sleepr awd
02-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Wow. This takes the place of the video I have of a local guy in a jeep racing like, a late 80s Civic as slowest races evar. Good kills...but what the hell is the deal with everyone having these "teams" and "crews". Is it like, that people are so self conscious that they can't go out on their own, that they have to have teams? And if your the leader of your team...wow.

hey

hey

hey

you wanna join my team cassie?? :icon16:

:rofl: that way i never have to race anyone unless you don't beat them :rofl: :rofl:

and i guess you never saw 4cyl auto eclipses going at it have you?

CassiesMan
02-26-2006, 09:03 PM
Do we get cool stickers?

Burnerdominator
02-26-2006, 09:35 PM
hell my little group doesnt even get kool stickers. I want stickers!!!! we just drive around (theres 2 of us total haha) and find hicks in straight pipe trucks.

TatII
02-26-2006, 10:27 PM
i'm in a crew of good friends. i think the reason we do it is becasue its kinda cool to go places with like 5 cars all from the same team. plus remember that GTi that i lost to because i hit my 120mph limiter like over a year ago? well my friend with the EVO bumped into him but his gas light was on and he had a full car.

soo you can have other people on your team avenge your death.

my team consist of

me, turbo 240sx

Hondachili, he drives a 97 supra TT 6 speed with bolt ons.

LeadfootFC, he drives a 89 RX-7 turbo II with bolt ons and a T04B turbo swap

another one of my best friend he drives a EVO with bolt ons running 21 psi

another one of my friend that drives a STi with bolt ons.

a 93 special edition prelude with v-tec and bolt ons, that car will surprise you.

yeah we all grew up together but we just ended up gettin into cars too. and we don't exactly drive slow cars so its pretty cool when we roll up.

Vtec95Civic
02-26-2006, 10:28 PM
Don't you people pay attention.. you have to have teams because there's a hierachy to street racing. You can't race until you prove yourself. So you have to work your way up the blackli.. err.. the team.

You gotta build rep. Duh.

TatII
02-26-2006, 10:29 PM
ha my friends are #1 on the black list!!

Sleepr awd
02-26-2006, 10:57 PM
Do we get cool stickers?

yah ... wait...

stickers? pfft...

just find some awfully big krystal dimension ones, and say you run the block

oh yeah, and your signature is one red x w/ a big blank area... :banghead:


it is nice having a hierarchy, but its a little weird calling them a team

that and there is not enough 15/14 sec. cars around here... they are all on the outsides of 12-16 as far as i kno

UnderEstimate Me
02-26-2006, 11:18 PM
i'm in a crew of good friends. i think the reason we do it is becasue its kinda cool to go places with like 5 cars all from the same team. plus remember that GTi that i lost to because i hit my 120mph limiter like over a year ago? well my friend with the EVO bumped into him but his gas light was on and he had a full car.

soo you can have other people on your team avenge your death.

my team consist of

me, turbo 240sx

Hondachili, he drives a 97 supra TT 6 speed with bolt ons.

LeadfootFC, he drives a 89 RX-7 turbo II with bolt ons and a T04B turbo swap

another one of my best friend he drives a EVO with bolt ons running 21 psi

another one of my friend that drives a STi with bolt ons.

a 93 special edition prelude with v-tec and bolt ons, that car will surprise you.

yeah we all grew up together but we just ended up gettin into cars too. and we don't exactly drive slow cars so its pretty cool when we roll up.


Thats one group of cars I would hate to run into :X

My group of friends (not really a team?) consists of

turbo dsm (me)

86 ae86 gt-s swapped

03 evo

90 celica gt-s bolt ons

90 e30 bmw with an engine swap from a e36


Were still in high school so all of us park together and talk, its pretty cool I guess O-o.

Chiquae07
02-27-2006, 12:05 AM
i really dont have a team/group, but we chill together.

me - 2001 sentra (swappin in sr20ve when i can find a tranny)

friend - turbo 96 eclipse gs....

friend - 89 civic swaped in ls vtec

friend - built up all motor mustang v8...88 i think it is..not street legal

friend - 92 camero v6

brother - bike...pedal kind....

thats about it, not everyone at the same time tho....everyone is still in high school except for the stang....he is @ iowa (big ten) and has over 300 hp to the wheels with motor alone w/o adding the nitrous....

CassiesMan
02-27-2006, 12:12 AM
My team consists of what do you think Elchico, bout three hundred people on CSR. Lane_change could be the captian with his two and two thirds second FD....

Chiquae07
02-27-2006, 12:28 AM
what is csr.....

TatII
02-27-2006, 12:42 AM
you guys got some quick cars too. its kinda interesting to see what kind of cars our friends drive rather then just us.

i'll probrably post pics of my friends cars in a meet soon. then hopefully we can start a trend in O.T.

Sleepr awd
02-27-2006, 12:46 AM
My team consists of what do you think Elchico, bout three hundred people on CSR. Lane_change could be the captian with his two and two thirds second FD....

CSR DOESNT EXIST SHHHHH :screwy: loco

haha 300 people... now we just need a ranking system and no dumbass looptards!!!

i think the 72 SS would be the king, or maybe even LSttype (uber low 10's maybe 9's this season)

justcuz i kno lane-change has nothing on them right now... :iceslolan

Burnerdominator
02-27-2006, 01:15 AM
I love when i post changes and we all learn about what cars people in our area drive. I wouldnt have a shot in hell at most of the cars listed. But it would be fun just to give it a try just for the rush.

nikita7
02-27-2006, 07:13 AM
Guy in GTP is an Idiot. There is NO need at all to keep GP in neutral during the launches, car has enough low end torque to spin tires without it. GTP had traction control system, so either that fool turned it down or his car's electronics is messed up. GTP has 280 lb-ft of torgue...

BigBL87
02-27-2006, 12:04 PM
Guy in GTP is an Idiot. There is NO need at all to keep GP in neutral during the launches, car has enough low end torque to spin tires without it. GTP had traction control system, so either that fool turned it down or his car's electronics is messed up. GTP has 280 lb-ft of torgue...
It is true that there isn't a great need to launch with higher RPMs, especially from a neutral drop, but powerbraking can help, you just have to do it intelligently. Even a GT can spin the tires from a launch, but a proper powerbrake from either wont spin the tires but will get you a better launch than just mashing the gas pedal. Even if the guy in the GP had a N/A GT, he shoulda been able to keep up (and probably win) if he weren't an idiot and had even a decent launch. He may have still had TC on, you can spin the tires with it on, but the TC will stop it pretty quick.

nikita, you have any mods on your car? Just curious since i have pretty much the same car, and wondered what those of us with lowly GT's do.

TheStang00
02-27-2006, 04:08 PM
It's not a bad car, stupid move though to make the V6 only come in auto.

im a little late on this one... but the reason they dont have a manual v6 is because they couldnt figure out a way to make it fit. it wasnt possible, i believe there is a swap available now, but it is probably expensive, and knowing dsm's its probably not very reliable.

IshtarX
02-27-2006, 04:37 PM
i'll probrably post pics of my friends cars in a meet soon. then hopefully we can start a trend in O.T.

Hey :frown:
Why do you get the credit?
cant we share it? :)
Afterall Wingmen was the first crew to get organized thanks to automotiveforums.
Drifty and Musashi first met eachother here then they met in person and the crew was formed which now consists of Musashi, Drifty, Gotian, Drifty's Girl and me!

We are automotiveforum's #1 crew :iceslolan

Gotian and Musashi have even started Autocrossing under the Wingmen club name and they are planning on getting automotiveforums decals for when they compete, in show of appreciation to this site.

TatII
02-27-2006, 05:54 PM
well it is alittle different then you guys because we were friends for 8 years so that was waaay before AF and half of them don't even go on AF. but yeah you guys are the first to become a crew from AF. the only person that i've met on AF that i see on a regular basis is Turbo2nr.

nikita7
02-27-2006, 06:22 PM
It is true that there isn't a great need to launch with higher RPMs, especially from a neutral drop, but powerbraking can help, you just have to do it intelligently. Even a GT can spin the tires from a launch, but a proper powerbrake from either wont spin the tires but will get you a better launch than just mashing the gas pedal. Even if the guy in the GP had a N/A GT, he shoulda been able to keep up (and probably win) if he weren't an idiot and had even a decent launch. He may have still had TC on, you can spin the tires with it on, but the TC will stop it pretty quick.

nikita, you have any mods on your car? Just curious since i have pretty much the same car, and wondered what those of us with lowly GT's do.

My GP is bone stock with 76k miles...only mod is a bra.

TerminalVelocity
02-27-2006, 10:08 PM
Yah well...me and Red are a team!


ok...were not. We just happen to roll together sometimes.

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