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eclipser2001
02-20-2006, 10:33 PM
is it more complicated to install a cai on a car that's an automatic?
i heard it was.

808drifter
02-21-2006, 05:19 AM
is it more complicated to install a cai on a car that's an automatic?
i heard it was. no its the same.

eclipsed4utoo
02-21-2006, 09:07 AM
yes there is a difference. the AEM intakes are specifically for autos. i think that the Injens are made for both.

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 01:25 PM
so i would have no problem installing a aem cai on my car?

eclipsed4utoo
02-21-2006, 01:58 PM
so i would have no problem installing a aem cai on my car?

if it was designed for an auto, then no. if it was designed for a manual, then yes you will have a problem. the auto tranny is bigger that the manual tranny.

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 02:04 PM
well. im ordering an AEM CAI online. so... how do i tell them it's for an auto?

Drodman
02-21-2006, 02:09 PM
Now when I ordered my AEM CAI I don't remember telling them if I had an auto or a manual. I have a manual and my AEM CAI works great. I didn't think it made a difference but hell what do I know. I just buy the stuff and have someone put in on for me....lol

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 02:16 PM
well, should i just order and hope for the best?

Drodman
02-21-2006, 02:19 PM
Just make sure when you order it you tell them exactly what you have. If your ordering it from a well known place then you should be OK. I paid my local mechanic 20 bucks to put it on for me. I just like things to be installed correctly since I have no experience with auto mechanics. Getting better now though....lol

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 03:47 PM
im ordering from JCW. there a good company.

Sleepr awd
02-21-2006, 06:31 PM
every company i find online is overpriced. i was sure there was a group buy wehre the prices were reasonable (200-220), or if you don't care about a name , PJ automotive has some for like 90$

and it seems every intake i've done besides my own, has been a PAIN IN THE ASS. either we were missing a part, or something wouldn't fit, or it wasn't quite 100%

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

brand new wouldn't be bad

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 07:21 PM
well i ordered front and rear srtuts and an AEM CAI from JCW. it totalled 469.85 s/h was free:)
can i put a bypass valve on the intake im getting?

Sleepr awd
02-21-2006, 09:20 PM
you can yes.

can you divide up that price for me? i must be out of it on how much front and rear strut tower bars cost or maybe i can't add good ;)

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 09:36 PM
99.95 for the rear and 119.95 for the front strut
the intake was 249.95

eclipsed4utoo
02-21-2006, 09:40 PM
well i ordered front and rear srtuts and an AEM CAI from JCW. it totalled 469.85 s/h was free:)
can i put a bypass valve on the intake im getting?

what kind of struts?

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 09:42 PM
DC carbon steel

Sleepr awd
02-21-2006, 09:48 PM
sounds good to me!

i guess i flaked or something

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 09:52 PM
i thought the front was a bit much, but i got it anyways. will it install the same way as this: http://www.roadraceengineering.com/3g/howto/rearstb-instructions.htm

Sleepr awd
02-21-2006, 09:57 PM
good question, if it does you will need a deeper ratchet than standard to get the bolt off, and if you drop the bolt you'll have to take out the entire trunk area ... its all one piece

oh yeah, and if you want your trunk panel area in, you need to have it in its standard position when you put the strut tower bar on, i had to do mine 2 times, cuz i flaked

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 10:03 PM
oh yeah, and if you want your trunk panel area in, you need to have it in its standard position when you put the strut tower bar on, i had to do mine 2 times, cuz i flaked

i'm not following you there:uhoh:

alphalanos
02-21-2006, 10:08 PM
250!! omg. I just buy used intakes, cut them, and use couplers to put them together. The most I ever paid for an intake was $100 for a slightly used AEM.

eclipser2001
02-21-2006, 10:13 PM
well i'm not as technical as you. i know the intake was high.

Sleepr awd
02-21-2006, 10:21 PM
i agree that isn't a cheap intake

if you take the trunk panel out, at all to do the installation, it needs to go back in and the bar needs to come up out of the 2 holes above the rear strut

if it isnt' in there your not going to get it back in w/o redoing the installation (its not that hard, but it can make you a little frusterated)

eclipsed4utoo
02-22-2006, 09:31 AM
are you planning on installing the shocks/struts yourself?

eclipser2001
02-22-2006, 01:09 PM
are you planning on installing the shocks/struts yourself?

i'll worry about that later. i'll buy them soon, then take then to a well trusted local automotive shop (my dad knows the owner) so i won't get screwed over.:wink:

eclipser2001
02-22-2006, 06:04 PM
is intakes sucking in water all THAT common?
how does the bypass valve work?

rodbls
02-22-2006, 08:11 PM
is intakes sucking in water all THAT common?
how does the bypass valve work?


Unless your filter is completely submerged you should have a problem with water. The bypass valve knows that your filter is submerged because of the vaccume created, and then allows air to come in through the valve (its like a spongey material) instead of the filter.

eclipser2001
02-22-2006, 09:05 PM
so does the valve close the main intake flow and open somewhere else to take in air from outside the intake?
does it connect between the two halves of the intake tubing?
and a question about the wire harnest connected to my stock intake, where would that go?

Sleepr awd
02-23-2006, 01:05 AM
i don't have a bypass valve and i've never once gotten my bumper submerged in the least

some places you need it, other places you don't

depends on how comfortable you are driving it through rain

you would have to be going through roughly 12" of water for more than a few seconds to hydrolock

808drifter
02-23-2006, 06:36 AM
and going that deep you also need to start worrying about water comin in the doors.

Drodman
02-23-2006, 09:35 AM
The way I look at it is that if your driving in that deep of water you should be in a boat not a car. LOL I don't have a by-pass valve on mine either. But my CAI doesn't bend down like some of them. I would have to drive in 2 feet of water to totally submerge mine. To be honest with you and this is my opinion, you really don't need a by-pass valve. But I am sure some one else would have another opinion. I took the 40 bucks and used it somewhere else. I took mine to the local mechanic and payed him 20 bucks to install it. That way it's done the right way.

eclipser2001
02-23-2006, 01:01 PM
why don't you guys install your own intakes, is it hard?

Drodman
02-23-2006, 01:25 PM
I would have installed mine but I know absolute nothing about cars. After watching the guy install it I probably could have figured it out. But I think it was easier paying a mechanic 20 bucks to do it right and in about 20 minutes.

eclipser2001
02-23-2006, 01:29 PM
I would have installed mine but I know absolute nothing about cars. After watching the guy install it I probably could have figured it out. But I think it was easier paying a mechanic 20 bucks to do it right and in about 20 minutes.

was there drilling or the making of new holes involved? anything that would require me to use anything other than a screwdriver?

Drodman
02-23-2006, 01:35 PM
No there wasn't. Just a screwdriver involved. It all fits in there perfectly.

eclipser2001
02-23-2006, 01:44 PM
No there wasn't. Just a screwdriver involved. It all fits in there perfectly.

i think i can handle that.
about the wire harnest connected to my stock intake, where would that go?

808drifter
02-23-2006, 05:18 PM
thats for your mass air flow sensor (MAF)
you need to keep that eniter part of the stock intake.

Sleepr awd
02-23-2006, 07:01 PM
and don't touch the honey comb!!!

i just used a ratchet, 8mm and 10mm i think did it all, maybe a 12 too for good measure

eclipser2001
02-23-2006, 08:11 PM
thats for your mass air flow sensor (MAF)
you need to keep that eniter part of the stock intake.

where does it go with the new intake in?

eclipser2001
02-23-2006, 08:11 PM
and don't touch the honey comb!!!

i just used a ratchet, 8mm and 10mm i think did it all, maybe a 12 too for good measure

what's a honey comb?

eclipsed4utoo
02-23-2006, 10:17 PM
here is a good shot of my engine. you will see the MAS connected to the intake. make yours look EXACTLY like this...
http://img161.exs.cx/img161/503/engine11ac.jpg

CODITHsaves
02-23-2006, 11:52 PM
actually guys, the automatic has the canooter valve in the way so the intake is different, especially if u got the eclipse premium package because that has a bigger johnson rod too

Drodman
02-24-2006, 10:10 AM
Man I learn things everyday here. Mine is a 5 speed and it was fairly simple to install. But yes you need to keep your MAF intact but everything fits perfectly.

eclipsed4utoo
02-26-2006, 02:44 PM
actually guys, the automatic has the canooter valve in the way so the intake is different, especially if u got the eclipse premium package because that has a bigger johnson rod too

the premium package has nothing to do with the engine.

what in the hell is a canooter valve?

what the hell is a bigger johnson rod?

cficare68
02-28-2006, 01:40 PM
Yes please do explain

Drodman
02-28-2006, 02:08 PM
With my 5 speed GT Spyder the intake looks different. Mine doesn't bend down like that on. It is connected to the MAF but after that instead of bending down like that one, the filter basically comes out of the MAF. I think that is why I didn't feel the need for the by-pass valve. I think though in this one you would want to have a by-pass valve because the filter is a lot lower to the ground. Correct if I am wrong.

eclipsed4utoo
02-28-2006, 02:13 PM
With my 5 speed GT Spyder the intake looks different. Mine doesn't bend down like that on. It is connected to the MAF but after that instead of bending down like that one, the filter basically comes out of the MAF. I think that is why I didn't feel the need for the by-pass valve. I think though in this one you would want to have a by-pass valve because the filter is a lot lower to the ground. Correct if I am wrong.

if you have a new model of the intake system, then it is probably only one pipe. if its only one pipe, then you have your's installed correctly. mine is an earlier model where there were two pipes.

808drifter
02-28-2006, 03:27 PM
not a new model thats a short ram (aka Warm air intake)thas y it looks diff.
thers only 1 pipe that goes from intake manifold to MAF and an adaptor plate that a filter goes on.
the 2 pipe is called a Cold Air. There 2 entierly differnt intakes systems.

Drodman
02-28-2006, 04:40 PM
O for real...Now I didn't know that. What is the difference in power increase and did I get the wrong one? LOL

808drifter
02-28-2006, 04:43 PM
it dont really mater all that much. Aftermarket intakes are more for just freeing up some HP by making the intake less restrictive. the diff in hp between the 2 differnt intakes is only about 5/7 hp at most.

eclipsed4utoo
02-28-2006, 04:47 PM
not a new model thats a short ram (aka Warm air intake)thas y it looks diff.
thers only 1 pipe that goes from intake manifold to MAF and an adaptor plate that a filter goes on.
the 2 pipe is called a Cold Air. There 2 entierly differnt intakes systems.

not exactly. the AEM V2 intake is 1 pipe but is a CAI. some of the intakes are just one complete pipe that moves the filter down infront of the wheel well.

Drodman
02-28-2006, 05:04 PM
I thought that is what it was. I looked and I did order a CAI from AEM. It just happens that it is short and the filter doesn't bend down like the one in the picture. As far as I know it's still a CAI. And the ones that bend down like that are the ones that should have the by-pass valve on them. As for mine if I get in that much water I am really screwed....lol

808drifter
02-28-2006, 07:31 PM
yah i forgot about the v2 style (i make m own piping so yah)
basicly a CAI(Cold Air Intake) will relocate the filter to the botom of the engine bay or into /near the wheel well. The short ones that just move the filter to a place like this one(see pic) are Short Rams, I have no idea why Ram is even in that name.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/808drifter/MyEngine.jpg

takumei86
03-03-2006, 01:27 AM
if it was designed for an auto, then no. if it was designed for a manual, then yes you will have a problem. the auto tranny is bigger that the manual tranny.


i have an 05 gt and just got a cai and its nowhere near the tranny ... oh by the way its auto/sportronic

eclipsed4utoo
03-03-2006, 10:21 AM
i have an 05 gt and just got a cai and its nowhere near the tranny ... oh by the way its auto/sportronic

then you got the correct one. i believe AEM is the only one that has separate intakes for the manual and auto. Injen's intakes are for both and i believe K&N's intake is also.

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