Want advice
stoned_pimp420
02-20-2006, 07:53 PM
I'm selling off ALL of my as yall call them "shitty" subs which are two 12" powerbass and two 12" JL audio W0's and I plan on buying six 10's but I want to know what to ask for the subs, and what kind of 10's to get.
ANY thoughts/advice will be GREATLY PRAISED!!!!!
ANY thoughts/advice will be GREATLY PRAISED!!!!!
chronicgrl_420
02-20-2006, 09:20 PM
there aint nothin wrong with being a stoner!!!
I'm selling off ALL of my as yall call them "shitty" subs which are two 12" powerbass and two 12" JL audio W0's and I plan on buying six 10's but I want to know what to ask for the subs, and what kind of 10's to get.
ANY thoughts/advice will be GREATLY PRAISED!!!!!
I'm selling off ALL of my as yall call them "shitty" subs which are two 12" powerbass and two 12" JL audio W0's and I plan on buying six 10's but I want to know what to ask for the subs, and what kind of 10's to get.
ANY thoughts/advice will be GREATLY PRAISED!!!!!
v10_viper
02-20-2006, 10:52 PM
there aint nothin wrong with being a stoner!!!
Stay on topic newb.
Most of the time, the people in here would like to see what kind of a budget you have for the subs and/or amp(s).
Stay on topic newb.
Most of the time, the people in here would like to see what kind of a budget you have for the subs and/or amp(s).
chronicgrl_420
02-20-2006, 11:09 PM
damn, chill out dude!:lol:
Stay on topic newb.
Most of the time, the people in here would like to see what kind of a budget you have for the subs and/or amp(s).
Stay on topic newb.
Most of the time, the people in here would like to see what kind of a budget you have for the subs and/or amp(s).
pimprolla112
02-20-2006, 11:18 PM
Whats your budget and why do you want 6 if anything you would get more bass and lest chance of the subs distorting or canceling each other out with 2-15 or 2-18's if you want serious bass. One thing i have learned the more is not always better cause one awsome 18 with 1500 watts would hit harder than 6 shitty 10's with 100-150 watts a piece. Im sure someone in here could help direct you more towards this concept. The other thing to look into is want enclosure you should build, remember the bigger the sub the bigger the enclosure but the more subs the more enclosures so its a draw in your case. Another thing is good subs and cheap amps wont get you very far you get what you pay for.
sickcallawayc12
02-21-2006, 02:44 PM
Stay on topic newb.
Most of the time, the people in here would like to see what kind of a budget you have for the subs and/or amp(s).
It's part of the topic. This is the first time I have seen this sig for this guy changed. And btw, I quit smoking weed today. as for the subs, go for 250 for each set, or at least thats what id sell them for. For new 10s, I would go MTX for multiple subs. maybe alpine too. maybe.
Most of the time, the people in here would like to see what kind of a budget you have for the subs and/or amp(s).
It's part of the topic. This is the first time I have seen this sig for this guy changed. And btw, I quit smoking weed today. as for the subs, go for 250 for each set, or at least thats what id sell them for. For new 10s, I would go MTX for multiple subs. maybe alpine too. maybe.
v10_viper
02-21-2006, 05:34 PM
It's part of the topic. This is the first time I have seen this sig for this guy changed. And btw, I quit smoking weed today. as for the subs, go for 250 for each set, or at least thats what id sell them for. For new 10s, I would go MTX for multiple subs. maybe alpine too. maybe.
No, it's not on topic, and his sig has been changed for some time.
I agree with the MTX idea, RF isn't bad either, I know you can gte 2 10's for 120 bucks from Crutchfield but you can still look around. But when you can get a pretty hellacious 15", or possibly 18" for 500 bucks then you'll be more satisfied with sound. Pimprolla's post is the only other one that I see useful in this thread, wait for CBFryman or one of the smart guys come around, they'll show you what you want.
No, it's not on topic, and his sig has been changed for some time.
I agree with the MTX idea, RF isn't bad either, I know you can gte 2 10's for 120 bucks from Crutchfield but you can still look around. But when you can get a pretty hellacious 15", or possibly 18" for 500 bucks then you'll be more satisfied with sound. Pimprolla's post is the only other one that I see useful in this thread, wait for CBFryman or one of the smart guys come around, they'll show you what you want.
pimprolla112
02-21-2006, 11:23 PM
You sure as hell arent getting 250 set maybe 200 for all 4, used subs dont sell well unless there top quality. If you want a ton of bass then mtx would be good but they arent cheap for there good stuff and that stuff cant compare with other brands good stuff, look into DD, incriminator audio, brahma, sound splinter, alpine type r's. That should get you going for now just so you car audio is not cheap when you want a ton of bass.
balls_to_the_wall
02-22-2006, 01:01 AM
Were gonna have to have a budget on this one...
stoned_pimp420
02-22-2006, 02:04 PM
I don't even have a budget in mind yet, and I've sort of driven away from the thought of six 10's anyways because I have thought about what everyone on here has said and I think that I'll try for a HUGE ASS 23" Jackhammer in the trunk, FUCK WIT DAT!!!! or something insane in the trunk. Like one of my previous posts stated, I want the kind of thump that when I roll through your hood I kill animals and small children, I want tha beat that loosens lugnuts, I want the beat that destroys shit from 40 feet away, you got the point. I want highs that will make a dog deaf, and vocals that will put jealousy in the heart of a concert.
In other words I want like 200+ decibals coming out of this car, I want the highs to shatter the stock glass and I have have to go with bulletproof glass to just hold up to the tweet and beat of my ride. I want to be able to rattle shit loose on other peoples cars. Well I could go on for hours about what I want but I'm seriously wondering how much money would I have to put into a system to get 200+ decibals.
In other words I want like 200+ decibals coming out of this car, I want the highs to shatter the stock glass and I have have to go with bulletproof glass to just hold up to the tweet and beat of my ride. I want to be able to rattle shit loose on other peoples cars. Well I could go on for hours about what I want but I'm seriously wondering how much money would I have to put into a system to get 200+ decibals.
bumpinstang77
02-22-2006, 03:03 PM
Fuckin retard. You can't reach 200db's in the earth's athmosphere. For Audio it tops out around 180. And as far as Daily drivers go it tops out close to a 160. Don't try to go too big because fewer smaller subs in a correct enclosure is better then more/ bigger subs in too small of an enclosure. Where are you located? Because you need help.
dave92cherokee
02-22-2006, 03:27 PM
If you're talking about being a show winner check this out and see what it takes to be a Db Drag racing world record holder and then do the research on your own to find out the cost of everything needed. Either way there is no possibility of you getting a system loud enough in your car unless 1 of 2 things happens, either you win the powerball lottery and have a ton of disposable income to throw at a system and the other things that would have to be taken care of to produce the db's, or get a sponsorship from a multitude of companies that will give you the equipment and when you go to shows all across the country have their logo's all over your vehicle essentially making it THEIR vehicle and no longer yours. Either way give up on the dream of being a record holder and go with a pair of 15's either Lanzar, MTX, or OZ Audio and get a Hifonics amp to match the power requirements of it and put them in a custom built ported and tuned box.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/article/0,,2076_15019826_56825958,00.html
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/article/0,,2076_15019826_56825958,00.html
bumpinstang77
02-22-2006, 03:37 PM
Scrap the lanzar, MTX, and Crapfonics.... and look at RE, Ascendant, Soundspliter, JL, Eclipse, Diamond, Stereo Integrity for subs and RE, ED, Incriminator, American Bass, Old School products from Orion, Autotek, PPI, Hifonics, ect.... A nice 2 12's setup that would wang woul be two Ascendant Arsenal 12's with a RE 12.1 to power them.
stoned_pimp420
02-22-2006, 03:39 PM
WELL then you FUCKIN EXPERTS tell me then WTF do I need to do as far as a system that is gonna go in a daily driver someday to be showcar? I want some hellatious beat and tweet, I want something that will make me KING in this land of fucking newbie's in this little fucking hick town, I'm not far from that now, but I want a guarantee that noone will touch me for a LONG time. Like the thread title stated "Want advice" Well I WANT SOME ADVICE, NOT CRITICISM!!!! I appreciate everyone's help and the few who haven't called me a moron. And by all means DO keep bringing the suggestions, it's just I'm tired of being criticized just because I don't know WTF the current record holder is, and because I've never heard a system that exceeds MAYBE 140 decibals.
v10_viper
02-22-2006, 06:15 PM
Scrap the lanzar, MTX, and Crapfonics.... and look at RE, Ascendant, Soundspliter, JL, Eclipse, Diamond, Stereo Integrity for subs and RE, ED, Incriminator, American Bass, Old School products from Orion, Autotek, PPI, Hifonics, ect.... A nice 2 12's setup that would wang woul be two Ascendant Arsenal 12's with a RE 12.1 to power them.
HELL YES^^^^^
And yeah...200 db's is way beyond possibility. Isn't the space shuttle taking off something like 198 db's and that's loud. My truck is mid - high 130's.
HELL YES^^^^^
And yeah...200 db's is way beyond possibility. Isn't the space shuttle taking off something like 198 db's and that's loud. My truck is mid - high 130's.
AndonD454
02-22-2006, 09:15 PM
WELL then you FUCKIN EXPERTS tell me then WTF do I need to do as far as a system that is gonna go in a daily driver someday to be showcar? I want some hellatious beat and tweet, I want something that will make me KING in this land of fucking newbie's in this little fucking hick town, I'm not far from that now, but I want a guarantee that noone will touch me for a LONG time. Like the thread title stated "Want advice" Well I WANT SOME ADVICE, NOT CRITICISM!!!! I appreciate everyone's help and the few who haven't called me a moron. And by all means DO keep bringing the suggestions, it's just I'm tired of being criticized just because I don't know WTF the current record holder is, and because I've never heard a system that exceeds MAYBE 140 decibals.
jesus man settle down..
what kind of car do ytou have , how much money do you have, those are prolyl the two most important things for you right now..
big bass costs a SHITLOAD of money.. hope youre ready to blow it.
and i hope you have soem space to work with.
jesus man settle down..
what kind of car do ytou have , how much money do you have, those are prolyl the two most important things for you right now..
big bass costs a SHITLOAD of money.. hope youre ready to blow it.
and i hope you have soem space to work with.
stoned_pimp420
02-22-2006, 09:33 PM
DON'T LAUGH, but I'm driving a 1990 Buick Century (until I flip it) so what do you think I can do with this car besides push it into a river? Money hasn't really been a thought of mine YET but I'm willing to spend like up to 1500 on just subs and then about that on amps.
balls_to_the_wall
02-22-2006, 09:57 PM
I can't talk from experience unfortunatly, but I hear the 20.1 from Inciminator is an awsome amp, NG can comment on that one. Get get a single sub that is ungodly loud, APXX, MT, Death Penalty, or somthing along those lines.
PaulD
02-22-2006, 10:19 PM
cars with trunks are more difficult than hatchback styles or truck cabs to get lots of bass out of. But the rules are the same ..... as some of the guys have pointed out. Concentrate on 2 high quality subs of the same make and model that are 15" or more, amp(s) that can provide at least 1000 (real) watts RMS per sub and a fair sized alternator to power it. Do NOT skimp on power/ground wire size - use 2 Ga or even 1/0 gauge, install the "big 3" - do a search on it to see what it is. Don't bother with caps, they do nothing for a bass system. Extra batteries are only for car off listening time, don't get a spare battery until you have the rest of the system pumping like you want it.
When installing it, a ported box will give you more output in the lower frequencies around the port frequency but typically at the expense of some sound quality. You will need to make "passages" from the trunk to the passenger compartment. Lastly you will have to play with the positioning of the box for the greatest output, usually in a trunk mounted box that ends up being with the back of the box pushed up almost all the way to the back of the back seat and facing the speakers to the rear of the car. Just a few thoughts to get you going.
When installing it, a ported box will give you more output in the lower frequencies around the port frequency but typically at the expense of some sound quality. You will need to make "passages" from the trunk to the passenger compartment. Lastly you will have to play with the positioning of the box for the greatest output, usually in a trunk mounted box that ends up being with the back of the box pushed up almost all the way to the back of the back seat and facing the speakers to the rear of the car. Just a few thoughts to get you going.
germanyt
02-22-2006, 10:30 PM
did i hear someone say something good about lanzar???
bumpinstang77
02-23-2006, 10:37 AM
HELL YES^^^^^
And yeah...200 db's is way beyond possibility. Isn't the space shuttle taking off something like 198 db's and that's loud. My truck is mid - high 130's.
180db's I believe. The highest possible sound pressure in the earth's athmosphere is about a 190.
Stoner..... How big's the trunk in it. My vote would be for two loud 15's...... Hmmm 2 Sound Splinter RL-s 15's and a Collossus (I know its hifonics, but the XX line is good unlike the rest.) Think you can get 12 cubes net from that trunk? MINIMUM
And yeah...200 db's is way beyond possibility. Isn't the space shuttle taking off something like 198 db's and that's loud. My truck is mid - high 130's.
180db's I believe. The highest possible sound pressure in the earth's athmosphere is about a 190.
Stoner..... How big's the trunk in it. My vote would be for two loud 15's...... Hmmm 2 Sound Splinter RL-s 15's and a Collossus (I know its hifonics, but the XX line is good unlike the rest.) Think you can get 12 cubes net from that trunk? MINIMUM
AndonD454
02-25-2006, 01:37 AM
180db's I believe. The highest possible sound pressure in the earth's athmosphere is about a 190.
Stoner..... How big's the trunk in it. My vote would be for two loud 15's...... Hmmm 2 Sound Splinter RL-s 15's and a Collossus (I know its hifonics, but the XX line is good unlike the rest.) Think you can get 12 cubes net from that trunk? MINIMUM
do you have any experience with those? i heard theyre fairly loud but theyre more liek HT SQ woofers than anything else.. dotn get me wrong im sure they still wang but i thought they pretty much belonged in huugge sealed boxes with a shitton of power.
enter the collossus.. and yeah youre right the xx amps are nice but how come youre hatin on the lower lines? didnt you run hifonics amps for a while? ive had a couple and never really had problems with them.. they may be overrated a little.. but did you have any problems with yours?
im just kinda curious why you went that route vs. suggesting a couple MT 15s with even more power (or 12s depending on the size avail.)
Stoner..... How big's the trunk in it. My vote would be for two loud 15's...... Hmmm 2 Sound Splinter RL-s 15's and a Collossus (I know its hifonics, but the XX line is good unlike the rest.) Think you can get 12 cubes net from that trunk? MINIMUM
do you have any experience with those? i heard theyre fairly loud but theyre more liek HT SQ woofers than anything else.. dotn get me wrong im sure they still wang but i thought they pretty much belonged in huugge sealed boxes with a shitton of power.
enter the collossus.. and yeah youre right the xx amps are nice but how come youre hatin on the lower lines? didnt you run hifonics amps for a while? ive had a couple and never really had problems with them.. they may be overrated a little.. but did you have any problems with yours?
im just kinda curious why you went that route vs. suggesting a couple MT 15s with even more power (or 12s depending on the size avail.)
pimprolla112
02-25-2006, 06:24 PM
Its pretty much the same as my hoopdie, buick regal. Trunk is huge you could fit 3 bodies in the back, havent tried but im sure its possible. 2-15's with about 3.5cuft would be possible any larger and you might have some problems with fitment as far as enclosure go.
CBFryman
02-25-2006, 09:43 PM
If you want to get loud find a way to presurize your cabbin....lol
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