easiest way to change piston rings on 96 eclipse???
brattzzzzz
02-18-2006, 05:23 PM
hi if i want to change the piston rings on a 1996 eclipse
what is the easiest way to do this?
do ihave to take off the head or can i unbolt them from the bottom by taking off the oilpan?
if anyone has information please let me know!
what is the easiest way to do this?
do ihave to take off the head or can i unbolt them from the bottom by taking off the oilpan?
if anyone has information please let me know!
Blackcrow64
02-18-2006, 05:26 PM
Ummm, usually you have to pull the whole motor to change the piston rings... Unless there is a way I've never heard of before.
xavier3jr
02-18-2006, 05:27 PM
i'm pritty sure u have to remove the head....and the oil pan???
Blackcrow64
02-18-2006, 05:34 PM
If you do try it that way, you are gonna have a hell of a time putting it all back together properly and getting it in time while its in the car. You are better off pulling the motor out completely and putting it on an engine stand... Just my 2 cents though. If you try it with it in the car then good luck...
blk_srt
02-18-2006, 05:41 PM
I know its possible in other cars to drop the oil pan and pull the head and unbolt the rod caps and pull the pistons out from the top but I dont know about doing it in an eclipse, my guess is yes, but it would probably be better in the long run to just pull the whole thing because you might as well hone it while your at it.
gthompson97
02-18-2006, 06:08 PM
If you have to ask you shouldn't be doing it yourself.
blk_srt
02-18-2006, 06:15 PM
If you have to ask you shouldn't be doing it yourself.
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AbsoluteGTR
02-18-2006, 08:21 PM
If you have to ask you shouldn't be doing it yourself.
That is not necessarily true...As long as that car isnt your daily driver and you can mess around with it, then the number one way to learn is to take it apart and find out along the way.
For example, when I was all into computers a few years back, I would take them completely apart and put them back together again just for fun. But then again, one of the old computers that I tried to reassemble did catch on fire. LOL
That is not necessarily true...As long as that car isnt your daily driver and you can mess around with it, then the number one way to learn is to take it apart and find out along the way.
For example, when I was all into computers a few years back, I would take them completely apart and put them back together again just for fun. But then again, one of the old computers that I tried to reassemble did catch on fire. LOL
blk_srt
02-18-2006, 08:53 PM
That is not necessarily true...As long as that car isnt your daily driver and you can mess around with it, then the number one way to learn is to take it apart and find out along the way.
For example, when I was all into computers a few years back, I would take them completely apart and put them back together again just for fun. But then again, one of the old computers that I tried to reassemble did catch on fire. LOL
They way I see it is if your not sure how to rebuild an engine you should learn before you attempt to do it on something that you actually drive. If you tear into a motor with little or no experence chances are its not going to work right or for very long. Not saying that he doesnt know what hes doing but I think thats what gthompson97 was talking about
For example, when I was all into computers a few years back, I would take them completely apart and put them back together again just for fun. But then again, one of the old computers that I tried to reassemble did catch on fire. LOL
They way I see it is if your not sure how to rebuild an engine you should learn before you attempt to do it on something that you actually drive. If you tear into a motor with little or no experence chances are its not going to work right or for very long. Not saying that he doesnt know what hes doing but I think thats what gthompson97 was talking about
gthompson97
02-18-2006, 11:37 PM
That is not necessarily true...As long as that car isnt your daily driver and you can mess around with it, then the number one way to learn is to take it apart and find out along the way.
For example, when I was all into computers a few years back, I would take them completely apart and put them back together again just for fun. But then again, one of the old computers that I tried to reassemble did catch on fire. LOL
If it wasn't his daily driver, he wouldn't want to change JUST the piston rings. If he had asked where to start re-building a motor, then I would give him some credit, but he probably blew the rings by rodding the shit out of it and now thinks he can jsut replace the rings and fix everything. I don't just do "quick fixes" when I work on car so I'm going to discourage others from doing it any way I please.
For example, when I was all into computers a few years back, I would take them completely apart and put them back together again just for fun. But then again, one of the old computers that I tried to reassemble did catch on fire. LOL
If it wasn't his daily driver, he wouldn't want to change JUST the piston rings. If he had asked where to start re-building a motor, then I would give him some credit, but he probably blew the rings by rodding the shit out of it and now thinks he can jsut replace the rings and fix everything. I don't just do "quick fixes" when I work on car so I'm going to discourage others from doing it any way I please.
brattzzzzz
02-19-2006, 01:23 AM
no to be honest i dont even think its the rings i am just asking to learn a bit. if i have to take the head off and unclip the piston from the bottom and pull the piston up and rering it then i have to do it and i have not other option
i was just asking. my friend did it for me before on my other eclipse.
this eclipse probably has a bad fuel filter or a bad plug wires or a bad coil its not working right. im going to figure it out soon though
what happened was i Was driving one day, while shifting, engine lost power. stopped by the nearest gas station to check it out. Reved the engine to around 3k rpm, then let go. Engine came to an almost stall... then reved it again, it then died. would turn and run once in a while. but would die soon after. didn't overheat before hand.
if you have any suggestions from this point on let me know
i was just asking. my friend did it for me before on my other eclipse.
this eclipse probably has a bad fuel filter or a bad plug wires or a bad coil its not working right. im going to figure it out soon though
what happened was i Was driving one day, while shifting, engine lost power. stopped by the nearest gas station to check it out. Reved the engine to around 3k rpm, then let go. Engine came to an almost stall... then reved it again, it then died. would turn and run once in a while. but would die soon after. didn't overheat before hand.
if you have any suggestions from this point on let me know
Blackcrow64
02-19-2006, 01:55 AM
Could be a fuel filter...
blk_srt
02-19-2006, 11:58 AM
is it a turbo or n/a?
E-Klips
02-19-2006, 02:14 PM
For the original question... Yes you can change the piston rings with the block/crank/tranny still in the car.
Pull off the head, pull off the oil pan, unbolt the rod caps and push the piston/rod combo out the top. Re-ring the piston, replace the rod bearings and put everything back together.
I wouldnt exactly recommend it because the cylinders specs should be checked and rehoned but it can be done and will work.
Pull off the head, pull off the oil pan, unbolt the rod caps and push the piston/rod combo out the top. Re-ring the piston, replace the rod bearings and put everything back together.
I wouldnt exactly recommend it because the cylinders specs should be checked and rehoned but it can be done and will work.
ez1286
02-19-2006, 03:49 PM
How about doing a compression test? If it's turbo also do a boost leak test as well. Don't rip apart your engine if you don't have to.
brattzzzzz
02-19-2006, 05:04 PM
its a non turbo
gthompson97
02-21-2006, 08:42 AM
Your problem doesn't sound like rings, it sounds more like a sensor. How does the car run when you start it? If it runs really rough and stumbles, you might have jumped timing = bad. Otherwise check and make sure all your sensors are plugged in and working. If it runs and dies, that could be a TPS.
EDMUND65
02-21-2006, 09:11 AM
:banghead::banghead::banghead:Sounds like the exact problem that i have!
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