Headers
97cavalier
02-13-2006, 11:15 PM
How hard is it to put headers on a 92 camaro rs with a 305 tbi? And i am getting full length headers. Can i still pass emissions with out the air line hooked up to the headers? I am getting a set of new headers i think by headmann for $136 out jegs.
Genopsyde
02-13-2006, 11:44 PM
headers are a bitch with the engine still in the car, and from what i've heard you can still pass emmissions without the A.I.R. hooked up.
97cavalier
02-13-2006, 11:47 PM
thats nice to hear,lol. i have a job to look forward to then. Has any body actuly did them on a 305 like mine? Any tips?
Genopsyde
02-13-2006, 11:54 PM
a few ppl have, hopefully they'll spot this thread and fill you in.
Nate355RS
02-14-2006, 12:16 AM
I put headers on, they're not impossible but they will take you at least a couple days, unless you work nonstop from sun up to sun down. I would recomend it, makes your 305 sound like a 350
Nate355RS
02-14-2006, 12:47 AM
Also before I go to bed, your problem areas are going to be getting the bolts on the passenger side, and making the driver side header fit. I had to take the driverside valve cover off and disconnect the steering shaft or column or whatever you call it, although I probably didn't have to do the last part. If you get those headers and have trouble let me know and I'll try to help you out. Also if keep your AC you might have a little trouble getting around it, but it's not that tough. If you've got determination, you've got all the skills you need.
SG007
02-14-2006, 08:24 AM
Long tubes scrape on 3rd gens, don't they?
97cavalier
02-14-2006, 09:20 PM
on the stock manifolds, are they welded on or clamped to the exhaust pipes?
Nate355RS
02-14-2006, 10:54 PM
They have a flange that connects them to the exaust pipes so you can just unbolt them.
97cavalier
02-14-2006, 11:01 PM
hey nate, do you like your headers? cuz i think i am looking at the same ones you hace, they are made by hedman and i am getting them from jegs for $136 I was wondering how they are.
Nate355RS
02-14-2006, 11:19 PM
I love them, it totally changed the the sound of my car. The only draw back is that I cheaped out on the gaskets and now I've got a leak. One thing that shocked me was how much more of the engine I could hear from behind the wheel, it really increases the noise on the inside when you get on it. I got #500-68471, I think the only differance is that mine are shorties and have a y-pipe.
97cavalier
02-14-2006, 11:25 PM
so should i got with a metal gasket then?
97cavalier
02-14-2006, 11:30 PM
and what is the diffrence between shorites? beshides they are shorter and cheeper? and the only reason i won't get them is because i have to get them welded on, and i don't want any thing burnt under there.
Nate355RS
02-14-2006, 11:36 PM
I've never delt with longtubes so I'm not entirely sure. Do you mean you would have to have to shorties welded or the full length's welded? The shorties, from hedman at least, are stock replacements meaning you can reuse the stock pipes by just bolting them back up or you can get the ones with the stock collector and just clamp them down.
97cavalier
02-14-2006, 11:40 PM
ya, i want a bolt on, i don't want to weld, so the shorties will bolt right up? and i thought where the clamp was farther down, that is why i was looking at long ones.
Nate355RS
02-14-2006, 11:53 PM
I was going to do the same thing, but I found out fast that a clamp right past the y didn't want to work very well. When my chasis flexed like, pulling into a driveway, the pipes would creak and pop like they were slipping, that's when I ditched the stock pipes for 3in. It's really not that expensive if you take it to a muffler shop and have them weld it for you, if you want to keep the stock stuff. If you have the money it would deffinatley be worth it to invest in 3in pipe from the y back, much better than the stock 2 and 1/4in or less diameter stock pipe.
drvngstorm05
02-14-2006, 11:54 PM
not sure why you took the valve cover off... go from underneath, its alot easier that way... coming from up top is pretty tricky
97cavalier
02-14-2006, 11:54 PM
i think mine is 2 and 1/2. and so will the shorties bolt up?
97cavalier
02-15-2006, 12:07 AM
and the ones i am looking at are ##500-68470
Nate355RS
02-15-2006, 12:08 AM
not sure why you took the valve cover off... go from underneath, its alot easier that way... coming from up top is pretty tricky
I looked at doing it that way but it looked tough so I didn't even try, probably not a very good decision. And it is pretty tricky to get them in from the top, valve cover had to come off and knuckles had to be busted. Oh well, live and learn.
If you get the headers that match the stock pipe size I don't see a reason why they wouldn't bolt up, how well they will bolt up i don't know.
I looked at doing it that way but it looked tough so I didn't even try, probably not a very good decision. And it is pretty tricky to get them in from the top, valve cover had to come off and knuckles had to be busted. Oh well, live and learn.
If you get the headers that match the stock pipe size I don't see a reason why they wouldn't bolt up, how well they will bolt up i don't know.
97cavalier
02-15-2006, 12:10 AM
what i was worried abotu was the length, because i wanted them to bolt right on or clamp right on. no welding.
Nate355RS
02-15-2006, 12:12 AM
I don't know if those will fit or not, says that they fit chevy aluminum heads only. It also says it has a 3in collector so I don't think they'll work as just a bolt on
97cavalier
02-15-2006, 12:13 AM
damn, i see the ones you have, but i don't want to spend $300 on them. That is why i was looking at them.
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