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92 camaro VS 2000 eclipse GT


97cavalier
02-12-2006, 07:08 PM
ok, so my brother thinks that he can smoke my camaro with his 2000 eclipse gt 3.0 v6. It has 200hp and it is front wheel drive auto. It does not have any thing done to it it is all stock. i have my 92 rs camaro auto with the 305 tbi and after i get my headers and exhaust (flowmaster) on do you think i will have him? If not i will definently have him after i do my lt1 cam swap with my new prom and 160 thermostat, right?

Rally Sport
02-12-2006, 07:20 PM
After the headers and exhaust.. im saying its a pretty close race.. after the cam swap, prom and hopefully new heads, you'll definately take hm.

Savage Messiah
02-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Stock for stock... I'd go with him, sorry. Intake and exhaust... I dunno. Strip some dead weight outta your car and throw some good gears on there.

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 07:52 PM
ya i know stock for stock he will win, but after i take my ac unit out and put a dummy pully on and get my headers and exhaust i think i will have him.

Nate355RS
02-12-2006, 08:13 PM
If your exaust and headers give you about 30hp, you'll be even with him hp wise, and your tq will make up for the weight disadvantage a little bit. But in the end he is probably going to edge you out. Something that'll maybe give you the edge is getting rid of that stock air filter housing for a non-drop base open air filter, that might give you the upper hand.

edit- just saw your removing ac, i'm gonna have to give the race to you but it's still gonna be close

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 08:15 PM
ya, i was going to do that cold air one that goes by the fog light for the tbi. i do not know yet.

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 08:17 PM
and after i get my lt1 cam swap i know i will have him, but fo now i am just seein what you guys think about this. And is it hard to put headers no my car?

drvngstorm05
02-12-2006, 08:18 PM
you'll lose... cam, prom and stuff will make it close, but with the cam i'd bet on you... i've drove a v6 eclipse, they're not half bad, and i used to have your engine, so until the cam swap, i wouldn't even try him unless you're ready to lose

hate to be a downer and all

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 08:20 PM
ya i understand, i don't get upset,lol, cuz i know my car is a dog unless i wake it up, and the hammer is ready,lol

malletslinger
02-12-2006, 09:27 PM
You know, things under the hood have changed alot over the years in all cars...
and the GT is the highest race package for an eclipse isnt it? Well then it only seems fare that to have bragging rights against a Camaro owner(like yourself), your brother's 2000 eclipse GT should have to beat a Camaro of the highest available racing package, of the same year :evillol:
Tell your brother that he doesn't have bragging rights unless he beats a 2000 Camaro SS and see what he says to that...lol :lol: :bananadie

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 09:32 PM
i know, my brother is gay, not really but you know what i mean, and the gts is the top of the line on witht he turbo. And the z28 would be the top of the line camaro for 92 right? not my lame rs. Because the z's had the 350 tpi, oh ya. I smoked him all day long when i had my 2000 ls1 t/a. i even let him have head starts and i would smoke him.

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 09:34 PM
oh, never mind the last post, i know you ment a z28 instead of a RS. sorry

philly rs
02-12-2006, 09:38 PM
hell yeah im with storm. when my 3.8 was stock i could beat one but not by much i think my car being a manuel mattered on that one. a 305, those dont have much power at all, he will kill u, hes alot lighter than u on top of everything else. even with the mods u have thats not enough... now do the cam and im sure things will get good.

drvngstorm05
02-12-2006, 10:03 PM
i know, my brother is gay, not really but you know what i mean, and the gts is the top of the line on witht he turbo. And the z28 would be the top of the line camaro for 92 right? not my lame rs. Because the z's had the 350 tpi, oh ya. I smoked him all day long when i had my 2000 ls1 t/a. i even let him have head starts and i would smoke him.

in 2000 there wasn't a turbo eclipse, the v6 was the top of the line...

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 10:05 PM
oh,ok but wasen't the spyder better than the gt? oh who cares, this is about camaro's

drvngstorm05
02-12-2006, 10:06 PM
lol the spyder is a convertible gt, nothing more...



back to camaros

97cavalier
02-12-2006, 10:10 PM
ya, i am going to just do mild mods to the 305 save up money for a while and way later down the road drop in a 350 tbi, i been looking at one for $2,500 it is all rebuilt and has 350hp and comes with every thing, and when i get it, i plan on getting a supercharger or nos on it. I will show all the ricers then!!

malletslinger
02-12-2006, 11:18 PM
Sounds like a plan. :nutkick: :ylsuper:

J.Cutta
02-13-2006, 05:12 AM
I dont see why ppl look down on the 305 I like it I know this is my first engine and it is new and rebuilted but they are very dependable.

Link85x
02-13-2006, 08:16 AM
305's can be made fast. Just give my a year or two. PPPPPSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!

97cavalier
02-13-2006, 05:27 PM
ya i know they can be fast, but i would rather put the money in a 350.

Savage Messiah
02-13-2006, 06:06 PM
when my 3.8 was stock


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh man, I remember bck when mine was stock too... ahahahahahahah those were the days... I thought it was fast cuz I could beat little riced out civics and integras in my area... hahahaha

stock 3.8 > stock 305 but still, haha

philly rs
02-13-2006, 09:14 PM
hell yeah those were the days....hey man when are u going to be back home? im about to start the first round of mods....

Savage Messiah
02-13-2006, 10:27 PM
Back home?? I'm sorta assuming you're talking to Dave??

What's in the first round???

drvngstorm05
02-14-2006, 12:59 AM
hell yeah those were the days....hey man when are u going to be back home? im about to start the first round of mods....

spring break man, what you gonna be doin to the f1? and when the fuck u gonna put pics of it up?

Dyno247365
02-14-2006, 01:10 AM
305's can be made fast. Just give my a year or two. PPPPPSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!

The 305 is an excellent choice to turbocharge, iron block with great reliability ...why am I acting like I know everything. I once thought about twin turboing the 305, but I'd rather have either a higher stock hp/tq engine or a newer one with gadgets and mpg. Funny, when someone mentions a swap, anything is possible. Anybody have an idea how much power the 305 TBI would make TTed?

drvngstorm05
02-14-2006, 01:15 AM
305's stock are not built for that much power, anything over 7psi and you would be getting ready to f something up really bad... the block is never the problem with turbocharging, you'd have to worry bout blowing a whole in a piston... i wouldn't bet the stock 305 pistons would handle more than 450, prolly less... not to mention i have no clue how you would get enough fuel with a tbi setup... oh yea lets not forget major heat issues since the heads/intake/block is all cast iron, which doesn't dissipate heat very well... with cast iron heads i would take apart the block put all forged internals, and throw a 300 shot on it, that's what i would do to a 305 :icon16:

Savage Messiah
02-14-2006, 01:24 AM
spring break man, what you gonna be doin to the f1? and when the fuck u gonna put pics of it up?

You guys actin all tough... don't MAKE me have to cruise down south to whoop your asses... (yea if that were my goal I'd hijack a certain formula and bring it down to smack u guys with, then again that certain POS formmula may break on the way there... :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: )

drvngstorm05
02-14-2006, 01:28 AM
lol or a certain someone would kill themselve because they don't know how to handle the power that a certain formula has because that certain person is used to a certain v6 that blows :icon16:

drvngstorm05
02-14-2006, 01:29 AM
oh yea, me and dj ARE tough :smokin:

Savage Messiah
02-14-2006, 01:30 AM
Hey DJ what ever happened with that hood?

drvngstorm05
02-14-2006, 01:34 AM
pretty sure it got fucked, i got to see the v6 in person, man that thing had some damage... it was pretty hard to look at, hurt my heart

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