d16z5
jcrx
06-23-2002, 09:13 AM
I live in Germany,stationed here for a couple,I just sold my 86 si and got a 90 w/ the d16z5.I really want to start building it up but don't know if I can take it home with me anyone got any ideas?
marked001
06-24-2002, 12:37 PM
do you mean a d16z6? if not...please describe what the z5 is...
jcrx
07-02-2002, 03:15 AM
I guess the d16z5 is the motor that came in the 1990 edm crx 1.6-16,that is the european version of the si...124hp.dohc,I got lucky and the guy who had it before me blew the original motor and honda put a new one in,this one has very few miles onit now and the car is in mint condition.
marked001
07-02-2002, 08:41 AM
sure its not a d16a9? ...more commonly known as the zc? I was under the impression that that was what all the EDM/JDM si's had...
jcrx
07-09-2002, 09:37 AM
no it is the d16z5 according to the data plate and the engine code on the block.the 1.6vt is germany's version of the siR w/b16a...honda put the new motor in this so i guess they put the right engine in it.but the original question is can i bring it back without a problem cuz i talked to a guy w/right hand drive siR and he is having problems w/epa cert
sastanley
07-09-2002, 11:44 AM
Yo Jason..
Any chance the car had a ZC in it (euro spec d16a9) and then since this is a replacement motor, Honda put in a newer spec d16z? originally destined for a 5th gen Civic? If all us enthusiast peeps can figure out a 5g d-series motor bolts into a 4g I am sure the Honda peeps know that shit too. And 124HP sounds about right from the usual slight de-tune the EDM's get over the 127HP d16z6 we have over here.
jcrx - What's the serial # on the motor? maybe someone here can decypher it that way? -
I dunno much about the differences between USDM & EDM cars, but maybe if you slap a US cat on it, you could get it certed that way.
Oh yeah!!...and welcome to the board :cool:
Any chance the car had a ZC in it (euro spec d16a9) and then since this is a replacement motor, Honda put in a newer spec d16z? originally destined for a 5th gen Civic? If all us enthusiast peeps can figure out a 5g d-series motor bolts into a 4g I am sure the Honda peeps know that shit too. And 124HP sounds about right from the usual slight de-tune the EDM's get over the 127HP d16z6 we have over here.
jcrx - What's the serial # on the motor? maybe someone here can decypher it that way? -
I dunno much about the differences between USDM & EDM cars, but maybe if you slap a US cat on it, you could get it certed that way.
Oh yeah!!...and welcome to the board :cool:
amy@af
07-09-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by marked001
do you mean a d16z6? if not...please describe what the z5 is...
z5 is out of a CRX 1.6i better known as the ED9 (edm version).
hp=124@6800
torque (nm/rpm)=140@5700
0-100kmh (62mph)=8,5s
Top Speed (kmh/mph) =208/129
that enough explanation for ya? :silly2:
do you mean a d16z6? if not...please describe what the z5 is...
z5 is out of a CRX 1.6i better known as the ED9 (edm version).
hp=124@6800
torque (nm/rpm)=140@5700
0-100kmh (62mph)=8,5s
Top Speed (kmh/mph) =208/129
that enough explanation for ya? :silly2:
sastanley
07-09-2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
z5 is out of a CRX 1.6i better known as the ED9 (edm version).
hp=124@6800
torque=140@5700
0-100kmh (62mph)=8,5s
Top Speed kmh/mph=208/129
that enough explaination for ya? :silly2:
That sounds like the euro ZC to me :)
Is the torque (140) in Newton Meters or Ft/lbs. ???? :confused: - that sounds pretty high for a torque number
z5 is out of a CRX 1.6i better known as the ED9 (edm version).
hp=124@6800
torque=140@5700
0-100kmh (62mph)=8,5s
Top Speed kmh/mph=208/129
that enough explaination for ya? :silly2:
That sounds like the euro ZC to me :)
Is the torque (140) in Newton Meters or Ft/lbs. ???? :confused: - that sounds pretty high for a torque number
amy@af
07-09-2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by sastanley
That sounds like the euro ZC to me :)
Is the torque (140) in Newton Meters or Ft/lbs. ???? :confused: - that sounds pretty high for a torque number
it is newton meters (nm/rpm)
That sounds like the euro ZC to me :)
Is the torque (140) in Newton Meters or Ft/lbs. ???? :confused: - that sounds pretty high for a torque number
it is newton meters (nm/rpm)
amy@af
07-09-2002, 04:47 PM
ps...thanks to BRACER :wave: for taking time to answer all my questions over time...eventually just sharing all his info so the 4th gen site could have an EDM section:D
you rock the block :ylsuper
you rock the block :ylsuper
jcrx
07-13-2002, 11:48 AM
As far as I can tell the car is the same as the jdm with respect to body and interior differences.the motor amy hit it on the head.i heard it is the same engine as some usdm integras but that is moot.I think cuz I am military I can get a waiver for emmisions to bring it back as a hardship but not sure about DOT.
jcrx
07-13-2002, 11:51 AM
sorry I mean ladyNredSI not amy my mind is elsewhere
amy@af
07-13-2002, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by jcrx
sorry I mean ladyNredSI not amy my mind is elsewhere
actually, it's ami :lol2:it's all good :D you can call me by my first name...generally friends do *we're all friends here * :dogpile:
you should stop by: Bracer's site (http://www.carpage.tmfweb.nl/civic.htm) for more EDM info. he has more info and pics than anyone i know. you could always stop by 4thGenerationCivic.com (http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com) :) but there isn't as much EDM info
sorry I mean ladyNredSI not amy my mind is elsewhere
actually, it's ami :lol2:it's all good :D you can call me by my first name...generally friends do *we're all friends here * :dogpile:
you should stop by: Bracer's site (http://www.carpage.tmfweb.nl/civic.htm) for more EDM info. he has more info and pics than anyone i know. you could always stop by 4thGenerationCivic.com (http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com) :) but there isn't as much EDM info
bracer
07-13-2002, 02:09 PM
:) LoL, thanks Ami :D
You were right with the Z5 specs but Europe also had the D16A9 in the CRX. Roughly you can say that the 88 and 89 Crx had the D16A9 (130hp) and the 90 and 91 had the D16Z5 (124hp).
It's said that the Z5 has a different ECU, exhaust manifold and different cams also the A9 has no cat.
btw, same goes for the D16A6, the 90 91 models have a D16Z2.
I've heard some stories that Honda introduced the "milder" D16Z5 in 1990 because the B16A CRX was introduced that year in Europe and they wanted the performance difference between the 2 models to be a little bigger. I doubt if that story is true though.
You were right with the Z5 specs but Europe also had the D16A9 in the CRX. Roughly you can say that the 88 and 89 Crx had the D16A9 (130hp) and the 90 and 91 had the D16Z5 (124hp).
It's said that the Z5 has a different ECU, exhaust manifold and different cams also the A9 has no cat.
btw, same goes for the D16A6, the 90 91 models have a D16Z2.
I've heard some stories that Honda introduced the "milder" D16Z5 in 1990 because the B16A CRX was introduced that year in Europe and they wanted the performance difference between the 2 models to be a little bigger. I doubt if that story is true though.
jcrx
07-26-2002, 02:42 PM
actually the rumors are true the b16a was used in the 90-91 1.6vt which is the euro version of the infamous siR
amy@af
07-26-2002, 02:51 PM
jcrx...when you get a chance, can you take a pic of the d16z5. i would really like to expand the engine section to EDM and JDM engines and not just swaps. i enjoy promoting EDM info. there isn't much out there...at least in english :eek: i found plenty in dutch
ps. yes, bracer...you are still the only who has said to me they could read the 4th gen banner ;) :D
ps. yes, bracer...you are still the only who has said to me they could read the 4th gen banner ;) :D
bracer
07-27-2002, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by jcrx
actually the rumors are true the b16a was used in the 90-91 1.6vt which is the euro version of the infamous siR
I know, I have one :rolleyes: :D , I think you misread my post.
ps. yes, bracer...you are still the only who has said to me they could read the 4th gen banner
lol, I remember saying that :D
If you want I can send you a pic of a D16Z5, I think I have some on my hd.
actually the rumors are true the b16a was used in the 90-91 1.6vt which is the euro version of the infamous siR
I know, I have one :rolleyes: :D , I think you misread my post.
ps. yes, bracer...you are still the only who has said to me they could read the 4th gen banner
lol, I remember saying that :D
If you want I can send you a pic of a D16Z5, I think I have some on my hd.
amy@af
07-27-2002, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by bracer
If you want I can send you a pic of a D16Z5, I think I have some on my hd.
i'll take any pics of the different engines you have :jump:
your cars looks like a work of art in that avitar ;)
If you want I can send you a pic of a D16Z5, I think I have some on my hd.
i'll take any pics of the different engines you have :jump:
your cars looks like a work of art in that avitar ;)
BPA
10-02-2005, 07:01 AM
i'm interested to know whats got to be done to bring a crx back to the states cause i'm in germany to and in the military. I got a 91 ed9 that i want to bring back with me. if anyone knows knows info would be nice.
BPA
10-02-2005, 07:10 AM
i forgot about something i found out. you need a letter from honda that says if the car in compliant or not. there's other things to but it's to much to list.
jcrx
10-02-2005, 01:03 PM
i'm interested to know whats got to be done to bring a crx back to the states cause i'm in germany to and in the military. I got a 91 ed9 that i want to bring back with me. if anyone knows knows info would be nice.
I just got out of the Army, and was in Germany, had a 90 CRX, the one mentioned earlier. The EPA has a list of cars with I believe they call them "VX" or "VR" numbers, or something like that. It is a list of cars that have been tested to meet US compliance, if the car is not on the list, you have to petition the EPA ($800+), than have the EPA and DOT do a conversion ($4000+). After all was said and done, I decided not to bring mine back hahaha, instead I bought a US spec Civic, and dumped the EDM motor in it, still waiting on the boat to get it here, should be middle of this month :)
I just got out of the Army, and was in Germany, had a 90 CRX, the one mentioned earlier. The EPA has a list of cars with I believe they call them "VX" or "VR" numbers, or something like that. It is a list of cars that have been tested to meet US compliance, if the car is not on the list, you have to petition the EPA ($800+), than have the EPA and DOT do a conversion ($4000+). After all was said and done, I decided not to bring mine back hahaha, instead I bought a US spec Civic, and dumped the EDM motor in it, still waiting on the boat to get it here, should be middle of this month :)
EDMLV
01-16-2007, 08:00 AM
Hi, i am from Latvia, and i own honda crx with D16z5! If somone need pictures , i have a lot!
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