99Eclipse RS VS 90Trans-am

Hey guys im new to this website but i just wanted to post up that on saturdy im having a go at it with a 90 trans am firebird with my eclipse rs yea its an rs i know its was passed on to me buy a family member for free thats y its an rs i know i should get a gs-t or gsx but i just don't have that much money but yea this guy from work wants to race me hes a hater at dsm cars he hates imports and especially eclipses he told after he was trying to make fun of my car saying just cuz its an rs that even maybe a car with just 3 cylinders can beat and all that other bs. but yea hes the type thats all about muscle cars that there the best i mean i got nothing against muscle cars but again to me there the dsm compitition. he even has on the back of hes car a decal that says DSM KILLER now ill race him on sat so i hope it all goes good and im doing this race for all my dsm people this is for yall. i also live in dallas texas and im making a team almost done just need a few more people so if u want to join and live in dallas texas just hit me up. Here r the racing stats=
99 Eclipse RS 5-speed VS 90 Trans-am fireBird 4-speed auto no mods all stock
AEM V2Cold air intake
msd igniton
Aplexi N1 catback carbon fiber exhuast

Futre mods for my Eclipse RS soon to be RS-T im im doing the engine first than the looks to back up the performence ill keep yall updated with the transfomation with pics=
HAHN racecraft turbo set up
Big 18g turbo! Bigger and more efficient than the smaller models
walbro 510 fuel pump with inline regulator
Apexi turbo timer, A/f guage,Battery meter.
AEM cam gears, adjustable
Greddy blow off valve
Black powder coated intercooler piping
JE 10:1 pistons
Fully machined over rods
Turbo gaskets
oversized skyline injectors
MSD plugs
Lightweight radiator fans

Umm, not to be discouraging or anything but the Trans Am is gonna beat you. He has at least 75hp on ya I think... I used to be all about Trans Ams too and they are pretty fast cars but GSX's and TSi's can be way faster. I still do want a Trans Am though. Anyways, good luck with it but don't hope for a win on this race. :)

He is going to rape you in that trans-am. Not that the trans-am is all that fast, just that your car is all that slow.

Yeah, sorry dude, but unless you are a really good driver and he is really really shitty, you will get boned.

Futre mods for my Eclipse RS soon to be RS-T im im doing the engine first than the looks to back up the performence ill keep yall updated with the transfomation with pics=
HAHN racecraft turbo set up
Big 18g turbo! Bigger and more efficient than the smaller models
walbro 510 fuel pump with inline regulator
Apexi turbo timer, A/f guage,Battery meter.
AEM cam gears, adjustable
Greddy blow off valve
Black powder coated intercooler piping
JE 10:1 pistons
Fully machined over rods
Turbo gaskets
oversized skyline injectors
MSD plugs
Lightweight radiator fans

I would do some more reading before you get very deep into that turbo set up. I wouldnt go with an 18g, I thought I remembered reading a bad review on one here. Walbro 510? Do you mean 255? I wouldnt get a battery meter, complete waste of $50 in my opinion. You'll need a boost guage and lots of people will tell you to get an EGT guage too. Dont worry about the weight of the radiator fans, the stock ones weigh maybe like 8 lbs anyway. IIRC Slimline ones pull more air accross and they are only half the thickness. Skyline injectors? Also 10:1 pistons is WAY to high for boost. I'd go between 8.0:1-9.0:1 . You are missing a bunch of stuff from that list, definately go hit the turboing an RS/GS sticky.

Hey guys im new to this website but i just wanted to post up that on saturdy im having a go at it with a 90 trans am firebird with my eclipse rs yea its an rs i know its was passed on to me buy a family member for free thats y its an rs i know i should get a gs-t or gsx but i just don't have that much money but yea this guy from work wants to race me hes a hater at dsm cars he hates imports and especially eclipses he told after he was trying to make fun of my car saying just cuz its an rs that even maybe a car with just 3 cylinders can beat and all that other bs. but yea hes the type thats all about muscle cars that there the best i mean i got nothing against muscle cars but again to me there the dsm compitition. he even has on the back of hes car a decal that says DSM KILLER now ill race him on sat so i hope it all goes good and im doing this race for all my dsm people this is for yall. i also live in dallas texas and im making a team almost done just need a few more people so if u want to join and live in dallas texas just hit me up. Here r the racing stats=
99 Eclipse RS 5-speed VS 90 Trans-am fireBird 4-speed auto no mods all stock
AEM V2Cold air intake
msd igniton
Aplexi N1 catback carbon fiber exhuast

Futre mods for my Eclipse RS soon to be RS-T im im doing the engine first than the looks to back up the performence ill keep yall updated with the transfomation with pics=
HAHN racecraft turbo set up
Big 18g turbo! Bigger and more efficient than the smaller models
walbro 510 fuel pump with inline regulator
Apexi turbo timer, A/f guage,Battery meter.
AEM cam gears, adjustable
Greddy blow off valve
Black powder coated intercooler piping
JE 10:1 pistons
Fully machined over rods
Turbo gaskets
oversized skyline injectors
MSD plugs
Lightweight radiator fans





WOW, that was hard to read how about some punctuation and spaces. Anywaaay, sorry but you are toast. Its a shame too, because he is going to think that his car is fast and DSM's are slow. :( Bone stock 1990 TA lucky if he runs mid 15s in the 1/4.

I can't remember, but doesn't the 3rd gen Trans Ams only have like 210hp or something like that?

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/loeman/2birds.jpg
Here was one I had. WS6 package, 350 TPI, NOT stock :D . The other one was mine too 97 formula 6spd NOT stock either.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/loeman/2birds.jpg
Here was one I had. WS6 package, 350 TPI, NOT stock :D . The other one was mine too 97 formula 6spd NOT stock either.

Damn man, that thing looks so fuckin hot. I want it. :boink:

Oh hey guys yea i know im gonna get toasted but u got to take risks ull never find out if u don't try i mean hes trans am is a base its not formula or nothing is regular like how my eclipse is regular to the gs-ts or gsx but owell oh and about the mods list some guy told me thats what ill need but iknow some stuff is messing and wrong thats not my list any have opinions or can tell exaclty what i need any could help.

Damn man, that thing looks so fuckin hot. I want it. :boink:
Thanks :D

ClutchMaster3087 I recommend you do some more homework before you commit to turbo-ing your car:2cents:

this is what ull need to turbo ure rs, in my opinion this is a good setup

Garrett T3 Turbo
-custom oil lines
-wastegate
-turbo manifold
-custom down pipe and gate pipe
-Front mount intercooler
-2.5" upper intercooler piping
-2.5" lower intercooler piping
-3" intake pipe
-blow off valve
-SX FPR
-Walbro 255 fuel pump
-Apexi S-AFC 2
-Greddy auto turbo timer
-MSD blaster coil
- cat back exhaust
- trans cooler
-NGK wires and plugs
-Auto Meter cobalt air/fuel and boost
-no more a/c o well

Thanks EclipseWhipping im sorry im just new to the racing world but with yalls advice im learning thxs guys

depends on what motor it has in it, i have a 92 rs camaro and it is a 3ed gen, but even with a 305 he will beat you. There is 3 diffrent v8 engines in the 3d gen. There is the normal 305tbi with only 175hp stock but with headers and exhaust he would be EASYLY in the 200range. and there is the 305tbi H.0 which has 210hp, and there is the 350's and they have around the 260's range, all these engines can come with tpi instead of tbi but there is only like a 5-10 hp diffrence.

Hey man I'm from Dallas too! Whats the name of your "team" or whatever?

I'm in a club called Allusive Racing, DFW club but mainly in South Dallas.

Wanna race RS vs. RS? lol


And oh yeah, racing advice.

1. Don't race something you know, he knows, and everybody knows you can't beat.
2. Don't do something stupid.

That's about it. Racing with a RS is pretty good learner car.

Fuck I want another car so bad......

Eh i'll join.. im not exactly in Dallas, a bit closer to Ft. Worth and all, but i'll join you if you'd like a stock 03 Monte Carlo in your roster. :lol:

Btw im in Richland Hills.

depends on what motor it has in it, i have a 92 rs camaro and it is a 3ed gen, but even with a 305 he will beat you. There is 3 diffrent v8 engines in the 3d gen. There is the normal 305tbi with only 175hp stock but with headers and exhaust he would be EASYLY in the 200range. and there is the 305tbi H.0 which has 210hp, and there is the 350's and they have around the 260's range, all these engines can come with tpi instead of tbi but there is only like a 5-10 hp diffrence.
uh, your numbers are a little screwy there so i'll help you out:

here are the possible engines for a '90 trans am, non- ws6 or other special package:

305tpi: manual:230 hp, 300 ft lb; auto: 210 hp, 285 ft lbs
350tpi: 245 hp, 345 ft lbs.


as you can see, they are torque machines, but because of the tpi system, they dont have very good top end and die after about 4500rpm

...i mean his trans am is a base its not formula or nothing...

There is no such thing as a formula trans am, as far as I know threre are only formula firebirds. There is a big differance between a trans am and regular firebird, as far as engine options. If it's just a firbird the weakest motor it would have would be a 3.1 V6, and it wouldn't have anything stronger than a 170hp 305. So if it's a firebird with the V8 it will run somewhere in between mid 15's and 16, if it's a V6 it'll run a good bit slower.

you can race my trans am for slips its just a trans am not a formula trans am...haha thanks for the laugh good pal. and welcome to Af

depends on what motor it has in it, i have a 92 rs camaro and it is a 3ed gen, but even with a 305 he will beat you. There is 3 diffrent v8 engines in the 3d gen. There is the normal 305tbi with only 175hp stock but with headers and exhaust he would be EASYLY in the 200range. and there is the 305tbi H.0 which has 210hp, and there is the 350's and they have around the 260's range, all these engines can come with tpi instead of tbi but there is only like a 5-10 hp diffrence.
:nono: NO third gen ever had 260 hp.

I forgot about all the weak suck engine options though. They even had a V-6 option in the TAs back then. Here is the breakdown: 305ci TBI: 170 hp, 305ci TBI HO: 210 hp 305ci TPI: 230, 350ci TPI (L98): 345.

I was assuming he would have the L98 since he was bragging so much. The L98 has about 60 foot pounds more torque than the 305 H.O. The TPI will look like a big spider on top of the engine, and the eighth digit in his VIN will be a number 8. If that is what he has you have no chance. But maybe he does have the low output 305, and you might stand a small chance if he is a crappy driver.

Eh i'll join.. im not exactly in Dallas, a bit closer to Ft. Worth and all, but i'll join you if you'd like a stock 03 Monte Carlo in your roster. :lol:

Btw im in Richland Hills.


Sure, we don't really discriminate against cars. We've got everything in our club from a Z06, Dakota R/T, even a Hachi Roku. I like calling it a club more than a team just cuz we have such a diverse array of cars and lately we've kinda mellowed down with the racing. Basically you just gotta be cool and love cars. There's this little dickhead 15 year old who's mad at us cuz we didn't let him in because all he did was shit-talk and blab on about his brother's Civic. One of our guys with a tuned turbo Jetta beat him, so its like, stfu. Anyways.......


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4313/409444336l6sr.jpg

I wanted it to been in a more original spot :iceslolan

hey okay the engine that he has is the v6 one thats the one he has in it.

if he has the v6 i think it is the 2.8 you will probly have him then

:nono: NO third gen ever had 260 hp.

I forgot about all the weak suck engine options though. They even had a V-6 option in the TAs back then. Here is the breakdown: 305ci TBI: 170 hp, 305ci TBI HO: 210 hp 305ci TPI: 230, 350ci TPI (L98): 345.

I was assuming he would have the L98 since he was bragging so much. The L98 has about 60 foot pounds more torque than the 305 H.O. The TPI will look like a big spider on top of the engine, and the eighth digit in his VIN will be a number 8. If that is what he has you have no chance. But maybe he does have the low output 305, and you might stand a small chance if he is a crappy driver.

There is a diffrence between a firebird and a trans-am. Although a trans-am is a firebird a firebird is not always a trans-am. (I think you knew that but just misspoke, I am just trying to clear it up for people who may not know.)


If it is a v-6 it is just a firebird (not a trans-am). Also a 90s model firebird came with a 3.1 v6. (not that it matters much... 5 horsepower big whoop)

XeVeNskyLiNE hey what part do u live in the team name of mine is elude a friend came up with it its going to merge with a team in el paso called eurolite but yea what part do u live in myabe i can hit u up and we can race just like u said rs vs rs lol jk

hey rallysport if u want to join u can y not i pass threw richland hills to get to work so maybe u can meet up some where

With all this firebird and trans-am talk going on.....dare I say.......













MUSTANGS RULE!!!

HA HA HA HA

There is a diffrence between a firebird and a trans-am. Although a trans-am is a firebird a firebird is not always a trans-am. (I think you knew that but just misspoke, I am just trying to clear it up for people who may not know.)


If it is a v-6 it is just a firebird (not a trans-am). Also a 90s model firebird came with a 3.1 v6. (not that it matters much... 5 horsepower big whoop)

Huh? I am not the one who said that. I know the diff. between the two. That other guy said it.

Edit: oops my bad, that was misleading. I did list the v6 didn't I. There was only one TA with a v6, and you def. don't want to race that one with your NA eclipse.

With all this firebird and trans-am talk going on.....dare I say.......













MUSTANGS RULE!!!

HA HA HA HA

:p :p :p :p :p

Thanks for clearing that up though... I didnt know the difference between the two. On a different note, I was talking to one of my old friends today. Hes really into cars especially fixing broken ones. He has a new v6 Tiburon, an old and way broken down Porshe, a Grand Am, and a Firebird or Trans Am. Well, the Firebird/TA has a 350 with a blower and he got it for free, but its not running. He said he might sell it to me. I am kinda excited, I was thinking about getting it running and selling it for DSM money or just keeping it for some RWD fun. A blower is same as a supercharger right? What about a procharger?

Thanks for clearing that up though... I didnt know the difference between the two. On a different note, I was talking to one of my old friends today. Hes really into cars especially fixing broken ones. He has a new v6 Tiburon, an old and way broken down Porshe, a Grand Am, and a Firebird or Trans Am. Well, the Firebird/TA has a 350 with a blower and he got it for free, but its not running. He said he might sell it to me. I am kinda excited, I was thinking about getting it running and selling it for DSM money or just keeping it for some RWD fun. A blower is same as a supercharger right? What about a procharger?
Some people refer to superchargers as blowers. Most likely not like a procharger, he is probably refering to a roots type blower. Did you see the car. You can't miss a big supercharger sticking out of the hood.

No, I didnt see the car. I know what a blower is, I was just checking to see that it operates like a supercharger, belt driven. Procharger is a brand correct? Or is it its own kind of forced induction.

Yes procharger is a brand. Yes they all have a belt.

Thanks for clearing that up though... I didnt know the difference between the two. On a different note, I was talking to one of my old friends today. Hes really into cars especially fixing broken ones. He has a new v6 Tiburon, an old and way broken down Porshe, a Grand Am, and a Firebird or Trans Am. Well, the Firebird/TA has a 350 with a blower and he got it for free, but its not running. He said he might sell it to me. I am kinda excited, I was thinking about getting it running and selling it for DSM money or just keeping it for some RWD fun. A blower is same as a supercharger right? What about a procharger?

Don't you have enough on your plate with that eclipse? :)

Don't you have enough on your plate with that eclipse? :)
No sh*t! Man we hi-jacked the hell out of this guys thread didn't we. :icon16:

:lol: Good call on Mikes DSM, one POS is enough to fix at a time. Yeah this is a hi jack if I've ever seen one. Sorry guys ;).

:nono: NO third gen ever had 260 hp.

Sorry this is a little late but I had to say something about this

The only stock third gen that had 260 was the 89 trans-am with the turboed 3.8 v6. It was also very underrated probably pushing over 280hp

Sorry this is a little late but I had to say something about this

The only stock third gen that had 260 was the 89 trans-am with the turboed 3.8 v6. It was also very underrated probably pushing over 280hp

Dont we just love the very limited third gens? :lol:

Sorry this is a little late but I had to say something about this

The only stock third gen that had 260 was the 89 trans-am with the turboed 3.8 v6. It was also very underrated probably pushing over 280hp

It is a little late, and you are preaching to the choir. The turbo TA was under-rated, but it was under-rated at 250hp not 260. Same as the Grandnational from which it stole it's engine. I would imagine that number (if not more) was close to what it has at the wheels.

Edit: There was ONE third gen rated over 250hp, that was the 1992 firehawk 350bhp/ 390lb-ft.

i know this sounds like crap, but there is a chance you can beat him. slim but there is one, and i wouldnt back down. i beat a light modded 99 trans am in my stock gs-t. based on what you said about the muscle head, he's all about aggresiveness, just like my opponent. whch means that he's going to be so set on raping you, that he's not going to use any type of techique, especially off the line. what kind of race is it? cause if its street all you have to do is block him from the front as soon as you get off the line. and even if you lose he is still going to look like a jerk for even challanging a rs, youll get major props for just sticking close

Who cares what happens, just race him and get it over with. And lock the thread.