the low,lows

I want to know how to get the lowest of the lows, ya know tha kind that loosen lugnuts, the kind that when you ride through the hood you kill animals and small children, you know........well you got the point, I've got 4 twelves 2 powerbass and 2 JL audio W0's powered by a Boss Riot 1400 watt amp the only thing I really know that's holding me back is the THICK ASS back seat in my silver century and the fact that I'm using two prefab boxes instead of a custom measured and built enclosure, and the fact that I don't have my trunk soundproofed yet (and I want opinions on that too)

How do I get the lows like I want?

Get rid of your shitty ass subs and shitty ass amp.

NG

Get a BIG sub, put it in a BIG ported box and tune it to 10hz. Get a BIG amp and some BIG wires.

Get a 15" or 18". www.reaudio.com has some nice XXX 15" and XXX 18" subs, also look at their MT line.

Yeha sorry to tell you bro.Get a new amp for start the boss amp is not going to get really low at all.You might want to get some subs aswelll get some re's.I have a sing 15 re that i will not sell but i might he soon not sure.You might want to get some Memphis subs they are pretty good i have some.Get a crossover to get alittle lower.Use big wires to get the extra power.Plus if you use big speaker wire it will get you an extra db from 18-12 cant remember where i seen it but i did.

Scoot

Yeha sorry to tell you bro.Get a new amp for start the boss amp is not going to get really low at all.You might want to get some subs aswelll get some re's.I have a sing 15 re that i will not sell but i might he soon not sure.You might want to get some Memphis subs they are pretty good i have some.Get a crossover to get alittle lower.Use big wires to get the extra power.Plus if you use big speaker wire it will get you an -extra db from 18-12 cant remember where i seen it but i did.

Scoot
-The Boss amp will play the lower register just fine, it simply doesn't have the output strength required.
-Memphis' MOJO's are good for really pounding out the lower tones.
-A crossover won't make the sub play lower, it will only reduce frequencie output above/below the set point, usually by 6db/octave, maybe 12db/octave (what's the norm anymore on that, Paul?)
-Speaker wire doesn't make as big of a difference as you think. It's biggest difference is in clarity. Second to that, the only other reason you'd want bigger wire is to protect your amp from overheating by pushing too much power through too resistive of a conductor(wire).

Yeha sorry to tell you bro.Get a new amp for start the boss amp is not going to get really low at all.You might want to get some subs aswelll get some re's.I have a sing 15 re that i will not sell but i might he soon not sure.You might want to get some Memphis subs they are pretty good i have some.Get a crossover to get alittle lower.Use big wires to get the extra power.Plus if you use big speaker wire it will get you an extra db from 18-12 cant remember where i seen it but i did.

Scoot

You're as much as, or more of an idiot than the original poster... ;)

NG

-The Boss amp will play the lower register just fine, it simply doesn't have the output strength required.
-Memphis' MOJO's are good for really pounding out the lower tones.
-A crossover won't make the sub play lower, it will only reduce frequencie output above/below the set point, usually by 6db/octave, maybe 12db/octave (what's the norm anymore on that, Paul?)
-Speaker wire doesn't make as big of a difference as you think. It's biggest difference is in clarity. Second to that, the only other reason you'd want bigger wire is to protect your amp from overheating by pushing too much power through too resistive of a conductor(wire).

I was not saying anything about the amp just the boss my cousin had played super sloppy and that all.I know the crossover wont let the sub play lower it will only let the freq set go threw.ANd yes speaker wire does not make a big diff but ther is some.And yes if you amp can take 4gag wire then use it so you amp get all the power it will take and not over heat.Oh i i think the db on the cross is norm 12d i think.Also what type of wire are you using in the car.Also is you car matted or anything to keep the sound from the road out and keep the bump inside the car.

Scoot

MT 18 24cuft@23Hz

:)

lots of cone area, lots of power, lots of xmax, lots of box... and using a sub or subs that are optimized for lower output wouldnt hurt..

http://www.adireaudio.com/Mobile/TumultSeries.htm

ha this came to mind.. esp the 18s

MT 18 24cuft@23Hz

:)

I would bet my new Behringer amp on that getting looooooowwwwwww.

*edit* Inhuman's also have some serious output on the low end.

Threadjack

Wtf happened to the Parthenon?

/Threadjack

I was not saying anything about the amp just the boss my cousin had played super sloppy and that all.I know the crossover wont let the sub play lower it will only let the freq set go threw.ANd yes speaker wire does not make a big diff but ther is some.And yes if you amp can take 4gag wire then use it so you amp get all the power it will take and not over heat.Oh i i think the db on the cross is norm 12d i think.Also what type of wire are you using in the car.Also is you car matted or anything to keep the sound from the road out and keep the bump inside the car.

Scoot
Please stop posting. Your writing style is giving me a headache and you did yourself in by asking "what type of wire are you using in the car?". If that is in reference to "brand" then you are indeed an idiot. This guy just needs a new sub and amp, period.

getting lots of bass is pretty simple .... as most of the regulars on here can tell you. You get several large subs and give 'em lots of power. A higher order box is more efficient, so a bandpass box will be louder - all other things being equal.

The other problem is propagation in and out of the car. As far as I know, anything done to make more bass with what you have IN the car will mean less bass OUTSIDE the car. Also, it's usually a lot harder to get pounding bass in a sedan with a trunk than a hatchback style. It's more or less a trade-off. Some of the other guys on here know a lot more about bass stuff than I do.

As far as the equipment goes .... don't mix sub types, get 2 large subs from a good company and a powerful amp. Although the Boss amp says 1400 watts, those are ILS ratings, it's probably like 100 watts X 4 channels or whatever. It's an ok budget amp when you know what it's REAL power output is, but I'm sure it does not have the power to produce the kind of bass you want.

Please stop posting. Your writing style is giving me a headache and you did yourself in by asking "what type of wire are you using in the car?". If that is in reference to "brand" then you are indeed an idiot. This guy just needs a new sub and amp, period.


Ok np when i posted what type of wires i meant what size of wires sorry.4awg 8awg 12awg.Just wanting to know what size he had and all that.i dont care about brand at all just size.Also if you want to hit low low you might want to upgrade you alt and do a big 3 upgrade aswell ( you cant get to that when you get a more powerful amp).

I think you scared him away. Even though the jl's can get pretty low they wont get what he wants. Fuck it get 2 mt's throw 3500 to each and make a trailer so you can tow them behind the car you should get what your after, oh and 2 massive ass ported enclosures.

I was not saying anything about the amp just the boss my cousin had played super sloppy and that all.I know the crossover wont let the sub play lower it will only let the freq set go threw.ANd yes speaker wire does not make a big diff but ther is some.And yes if you amp can take 4gag wire then use it so you amp get all the power it will take and not over heat.Oh i i think the db on the cross is norm 12d i think.Also what type of wire are you using in the car.Also is you car matted or anything to keep the sound from the road out and keep the bump inside the car.

Scoot
You just 100% contradicted your first post. Congratulations. :screwy:

why does everyone keep suggesting MTs?

nto exactly whatr i would call a bottom feeder.. i guess ive never really heard one tuned super low but beign an spl woofer i wouldnt expect it to shine in the bleow-40hz range..

You're as much as, or more of an idiot than the original poster... ;)

NG


hehe:rofl: :rofl:

here u go get a couple of fosgate power t212d4 i have a power t112d4 and it hit the low bass off a power t3002 amp but if u get the t2's you would need a cap. a battery and some 1awg wire just to help the amp push the subs. then u would need a good slotported box tuned to 15hz a peice in each compartment

I dont understand what the big deal with "loud" subs is anymore. Since when does your whole car rattling like hell sound good? With extreme distortion for that matter?

I dont understand what the big deal with "loud" subs is anymore. Since when does your whole car rattling like hell sound good? With extreme distortion for that matter?


its just not your cup of tea thats cool but some people enjoy different things..

besides not all bassheads have rattles and distorsion.. some have super solid cars with minimal distorsion

nobody said it sounded good. :)

SQL is where its at, dnt gt rockford they are overpriced and overrated at least at best buy hell im not paying 1500 for a 3k watt amp. You want low bass look into soundsplinter, incriminator audio, re, an brahma, just a few to get you looking and for amps look at something that has rated power or at least says what voltage they tested it at, the THD, and the impendance. Hifonics, profile, ma audio just look around a bit. Il leave it at this not everyone is going to agree but if you can get it from circuit city, best buy or the farmers market unless its good quality stuff and not some pos the sales people are trying to pass off then its not worth buying for low bass.

Iron Law...the lower or louder yo uwant to get the more room you need. if all you have is a medium sized trunk good luck

well then how does my system relate to as far as SQL (sound quality) Da BOSS seems to push my low grade subs pretty decent or so I think.

NO my car isn't matted or pressure proofed, yes I do plan to get a better box to put them in, and for some reason my car just WON'T stop rattling and no it's not the tag rattling, if anything that's the only thing that doesn't rattle on the back of the car, the tail light assembly can even be seen moving as well as the back dask can be seen moving on some songs, I mean the taillight and rear deck move like the sub cones do, how do I put a stop to this? And yes they are mounted tightly.

Use some good deadening. Do the whole trunk, that should at least make the rattling lessen.

dont you have some horrible setup with 2 diff. types of subs? strip whatever part(s) are rattling and paste on a few layers of liquid deadener. Then do a couple layers of mats and should be a great difference.- go with second skin-

strip whatever part(s) are rattling and paste on a few layers of liquid deadener. Then do a couple layers of mats and should be a great difference.- go with second skin-

I need the taillight and the rear quarter panels and trunk lid and rear deck and rear windshield, basically the ENTIRE back section of the car rattlies like it's gonna fall off.
WTF is LIQUID deadener?
How much does second skin cost?

Search maybe?

www.google.com is VERY useful...

NG

or you could be helpful instead of sarcastic.

http://edesignaudio.com/product.php?cid=11&pid=26&cur=USD

go ahead, quote yourself again, ngsm.

Secondskinaudio.com

I think yo had it backwards the low grade amp is pushing low grade subs and a pretty decent set of subs. I like edesigns matting, i havent tried second skin yet might have to use it in my new car, but i like the spray on the best easy to apply an you can make it was thick as you need. Easy to get in tight spots to.