Yet another Conversion
Knight2040
02-05-2006, 11:59 AM
Well, yea I know, not another 99 Conversion, but i'm proud being as it was a 91 and i did all the hacking myself. This is what I have after a couple hours of hacking, grinding, going to lowes for cutting disks. I have everything finally flush and even on 1st gen buckets. I used 95 Stealth lights and a deft cabon fiber hood. Still waiting on 99 turns tho.
What do yall think?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/665000-665999/665240_81_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/665000-665999/665240_80_full.jpg
Also, check out my new cobra rims.
What do yall think?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/665000-665999/665240_81_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/665000-665999/665240_80_full.jpg
Also, check out my new cobra rims.
compaqpunch
02-05-2006, 12:54 PM
looks good so far. Great job:p
StealthModifier
02-05-2006, 08:34 PM
looks good. arent the 95 stealth headlights same as 2nd gen 3000gts?
Knight2040
02-05-2006, 10:53 PM
looks good. arent the 95 stealth headlights same as 2nd gen 3000gts?
Nope, the 3000GT lights are curved at the corner to flow with the bumper, as opposed to the stealth lights which are streight to be flush mount wit the turn signal. Using 3kGT lights would leave a small empty triangle in between the light and turn signal.
shown here by 3sx's website
3000GT lights
http://www.3sxperformance.com/faq/99/headlight-comparison-converted-3000gt-non99lights-04-400.jpg
Stealth Lights
http://www.3sxperformance.com/faq/99/headlight-comparison-converted-stealth-gen2-stock-lights-2-400.jpg
Nope, the 3000GT lights are curved at the corner to flow with the bumper, as opposed to the stealth lights which are streight to be flush mount wit the turn signal. Using 3kGT lights would leave a small empty triangle in between the light and turn signal.
shown here by 3sx's website
3000GT lights
http://www.3sxperformance.com/faq/99/headlight-comparison-converted-3000gt-non99lights-04-400.jpg
Stealth Lights
http://www.3sxperformance.com/faq/99/headlight-comparison-converted-stealth-gen2-stock-lights-2-400.jpg
sLADe781
02-05-2006, 11:50 PM
Right on Knight....very nice work! I'm still super impressed by you guys who could do all the work yourselves. I understand how shops do it because they have all the tools/materials/resources and so forth but for you do-it-yourselfers, that's always impressive. Good job!!!
Knight2040
02-06-2006, 12:28 AM
Thanks for the comments guys. For you people who have done this to 1st Gen buckets, how did you mangage to mount the turn signals? The 1st gen buckets don't have mounting brackets like the 2nd gen ones....Also, I really need to get rid of the 4x4 wheel gap....
Morphius289
02-06-2006, 12:36 AM
Damn, good eye Knight. I never noticed that about the Steath headlights. Lookin good!
Igovert500
02-06-2006, 03:13 AM
Looks good.
talskinyguy
02-06-2006, 07:40 AM
Thanks for the comments guys. For you people who have done this to 1st Gen buckets, how did you mangage to mount the turn signals? The 1st gen buckets don't have mounting brackets like the 2nd gen ones....Also, I really need to get rid of the 4x4 wheel gap.....
The turn signals mount to the headlight and to the fender, so you have nothing to worry about. You will see how it all works when you get them.
The turn signals mount to the headlight and to the fender, so you have nothing to worry about. You will see how it all works when you get them.
xXxRocker5150
02-06-2006, 05:06 PM
looks nice man
SHO411
02-08-2006, 11:40 AM
great Job. Kudos for doing it your self...................
Knight2040
08-02-2006, 12:16 AM
Hey guys, i know old thread, but didnt want to make a new one, but I haven't posted or even read the forums for while due to me spinning a bearing like 6 months ago, but I got the new motor in, fully built so i'm happy and I recently unpaused my 99 conversion lol, heres a recent pic, ALMOST COMPLETE, little http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/665000-665999/665240_97_full.jpg
What do yall think? I need to add a washer on the right headlight to raise it up a bit, But i think its coming pretty smooth
What do yall think? I need to add a washer on the right headlight to raise it up a bit, But i think its coming pretty smooth
RX-7 Steve
08-02-2006, 12:32 AM
Hey, looks good so far, bro. I love the "mouth" on those '99-spec faces. You should put the lip-spoiler on it too: http://www.3sx.com/store/catalog/body-99-lip-2pc-06-600.jpg
http://www.3sxperformance.com/images/steve-vr4-2005-03-24-photo-shoot-070-600.jpg
Are you gonna update to 2nd-gen. sides as well to better match the front?
http://www.3sxperformance.com/images/steve-vr4-2005-03-24-photo-shoot-070-600.jpg
Are you gonna update to 2nd-gen. sides as well to better match the front?
Knight2040
08-02-2006, 12:37 AM
I'm not really crazy about 3sx's 2nd version of their lip, I would kill for the one peice first version tho, but there too rare, i'm gonna attempt to get a kaze, as for the sides, I am leaning towards second gen sideskirts and rear bumper unless the front lip makes the rest of the car look too low, then i might want ot get a lower side skirt.
RX-7 Steve
08-02-2006, 12:46 AM
Do you have a pic of this Kaze lip? I just tried googling "kaze 3000gt" and only saw a bunch of riced-out, mutilated cars.
Igovert500
08-02-2006, 01:13 AM
sucks about the bearing, glad to see you are back on track though. Good work
3kvr4
08-02-2006, 10:29 AM
nice lipstick lol j/k:bananasmi :bananasmi
Knight2040
08-02-2006, 11:28 AM
sLADe781
08-02-2006, 11:52 AM
Very nice! I was actually wondering what happened with the project...good to see it's coming along well! Can't wait to see it when it's done...
Linebckr49
08-02-2006, 03:52 PM
The kaze lip
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655051_158_full.jpg
i saw that guys car on 3si. it was basically a complete transformation. started out as a green 93 (?) rt/tt, and ended up as that beauty. great taste in aftermarket body panels and bumpers and rims, if i may say so.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655051_158_full.jpg
i saw that guys car on 3si. it was basically a complete transformation. started out as a green 93 (?) rt/tt, and ended up as that beauty. great taste in aftermarket body panels and bumpers and rims, if i may say so.
Knight2040
08-02-2006, 04:38 PM
Heres a before pic of the red stealth
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655051_3_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655051_3_full.jpg
RX-7 Steve
08-02-2006, 05:34 PM
The kaze lip
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655051_158_full.jpg
I don't like how that car looks; the front-lip is too big on the sides, it's missing the fins by the foglights, and the OEM 2nd-gen. 3000GT sides are nicer than any other designs.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655051_158_full.jpg
I don't like how that car looks; the front-lip is too big on the sides, it's missing the fins by the foglights, and the OEM 2nd-gen. 3000GT sides are nicer than any other designs.
AutostradaVR4
08-02-2006, 06:46 PM
I don't like how that car looks; the front-lip is too big on the sides, it's missing the fins by the foglights, and the OEM 2nd-gen. 3000GT sides are nicer than any other designs.
i know what your sayin'. it never looks good when the front is lower than the side....like the classic ricer who only has enough money for the front bumper of the body kit so thats all they get lol. looks retarded.
anyways, very nice work knight. why did you go with the '95 lights instead of the '99s?
i know what your sayin'. it never looks good when the front is lower than the side....like the classic ricer who only has enough money for the front bumper of the body kit so thats all they get lol. looks retarded.
anyways, very nice work knight. why did you go with the '95 lights instead of the '99s?
Linebckr49
08-02-2006, 06:49 PM
those 99 lights are freakin' expensive! and IMO don't look that much better than 2nd gens (not enough to merit buying them).
--->Knight, instead of getting 99 lights, or to add some flare to those 95 lights, do a HID retro fit.
--->Knight, instead of getting 99 lights, or to add some flare to those 95 lights, do a HID retro fit.
Morphius289
08-02-2006, 06:59 PM
99' lights = $500 EACH
Linebckr49
08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
HID retrofit = $500 max TOTAL.
light output of HID retrofit > any year model 3S lights
light output of HID retrofit > any year model 3S lights
Morphius289
08-02-2006, 07:31 PM
Don't forget that if you're looking for perfect fitting lights in a 99' front end w/o having to buy the bubble lights, the second gen. stealth headlights fit perfectly without any holes.
Knight2040
08-02-2006, 09:27 PM
i did use the 95 stealth lights to prevent the holes, and the reason i didn't buy 99 lights was due to the fact that they cost a million bucks + my mom for just one. I have ALWAYS wanted real HID's but I'm concerned about the plastic housing melting. Every time I see someone do an HID retrofit, they always buy the 94 Glass headlights. So does anyone know if it could be done on plastic lights?
As for the front lip being lower then the rest of the car, wouldnt it be crazy to buy bomex sides and cut off the bottom, smaller "scoop" and molding them on to second gen side skirts.....hmm....lol
As for the front lip being lower then the rest of the car, wouldnt it be crazy to buy bomex sides and cut off the bottom, smaller "scoop" and molding them on to second gen side skirts.....hmm....lol
Linebckr49
08-02-2006, 10:08 PM
I have ALWAYS wanted real HID's but I'm concerned about the plastic housing melting. Every time I see someone do an HID retrofit, they always buy the 94 Glass headlights. So does anyone know if it could be done on plastic lights?
there's nothing to worry about melting plastic. most of the heat is contained in the shroud and behind the glass lens.
i'm doing a HID retro-fit on my 1st gen headlights. i'm using a plastic material (similar to Lexan) to cover the headlights. it should work fine. i have a friend that uses stock plastic headlamp housings on his prelude for his HID retrofit.
so you've heard of other 3S people doing HID retrofits? point me in there direction. when i brought it up on 3si, it was almost a new thing (except for another member did a retro fit on his 1st gen...his was single xenon, mine is bi-xenon).
there's nothing to worry about melting plastic. most of the heat is contained in the shroud and behind the glass lens.
i'm doing a HID retro-fit on my 1st gen headlights. i'm using a plastic material (similar to Lexan) to cover the headlights. it should work fine. i have a friend that uses stock plastic headlamp housings on his prelude for his HID retrofit.
so you've heard of other 3S people doing HID retrofits? point me in there direction. when i brought it up on 3si, it was almost a new thing (except for another member did a retro fit on his 1st gen...his was single xenon, mine is bi-xenon).
Stealthee
08-02-2006, 10:45 PM
Conversion looks good but later on down the line you will end up kicking yourself for not going ahead and getting 2g buckets. Also did you get the headlights wired properly so all 4 headlights are on at highbeam? If not check out my post in the FAQ.
Knight2040
08-02-2006, 11:38 PM
Linebckr49 the retrofits i'v seen on 3si have been on second gens, I can still try to find them if you want.
Stealthee, Why do you say i will be kicking my self for not getting 2G buckets? After hacking and making sure the cuts were streight with a level and raising the rear of the lights with washers, i'v almost got the little internal levels on the headlights centered. The gap between the bumper and headlights will go away once I actualy bolt the bumper on, its just held on by a couple of bolts so i can easily remove it for painting.
Stealthee, Why do you say i will be kicking my self for not getting 2G buckets? After hacking and making sure the cuts were streight with a level and raising the rear of the lights with washers, i'v almost got the little internal levels on the headlights centered. The gap between the bumper and headlights will go away once I actualy bolt the bumper on, its just held on by a couple of bolts so i can easily remove it for painting.
Stealthee
08-02-2006, 11:55 PM
Because everyone I have conversed with about this have all said they wish they went with the 2g buckets. It makes for a MUCH cleaner install. And as for the gaps did you only get the 99 bumper? There are "brackets" that go in the headlight area of the bumper that are needed or else gaps are still going to be apparent. Also the "gasket" that goes around the headlight on 94-98's is actually on the 99 headlights so that also fills a gap.
In reality it probably would have been quicker to go with the 2g buckets than hacking the first gens. It takes all of 30 minutes to an hour to have the buckets swapped with little measurement needing to be taken. With hackig you cut so far then test fit then do some more then test fit. Now you have to use washers to level the light up and the bolt holes dont line up to mount the headlight in the bucket.
And yeah you didnt answer my question, did you get the headlights wired properly?
In reality it probably would have been quicker to go with the 2g buckets than hacking the first gens. It takes all of 30 minutes to an hour to have the buckets swapped with little measurement needing to be taken. With hackig you cut so far then test fit then do some more then test fit. Now you have to use washers to level the light up and the bolt holes dont line up to mount the headlight in the bucket.
And yeah you didnt answer my question, did you get the headlights wired properly?
Knight2040
08-03-2006, 12:04 AM
I am currently doing the wiring now :) thank you for pointing out your wiring diagram, I just had the low beams wired and all I need left to pass inspection are the highbeams. As for the rest of the 99 parts, I have all the circled parts minus the headlight buckets coming in the mail
http://ciudad.latinol.com//3000gtvr42/99convo1.JPG
http://ciudad.latinol.com//3000gtvr42/99convo1.JPG
Stealthee
08-03-2006, 12:12 AM
18 and 19 are the brakcets I was speaking of. :cool: Alot of people ignore them but they are well worth the extra money spent.
Even though I have a 2g already I am going to be replacing my headlight buckets. My passenger side was smashed in a collision with deer before I bought the car and the body shop just welded in metal instead of replacing the bucket like they should have. It makes things not properly line up in my front end so when I actually have some extra monethats going to be one of my MANY projects on the Stealth/
Even though I have a 2g already I am going to be replacing my headlight buckets. My passenger side was smashed in a collision with deer before I bought the car and the body shop just welded in metal instead of replacing the bucket like they should have. It makes things not properly line up in my front end so when I actually have some extra monethats going to be one of my MANY projects on the Stealth/
Linebckr49
08-03-2006, 01:09 PM
Knight, i found Yinlun's hid retrofit you know where http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=286884 . he said he was gonna do a write-up with pics, but never did. his write-up wouldn't benefit me since its a 2nd gen and have a 1st gen which is much more difficult. plus, the retrofit on the 2nd gen should be inherently EASY since it comes stock with projector halogen headlights. to swap in projector HID units wouldn't be hard at all.
do you know of any other threads on three S eye?
i've posted a thread or two over there, i've got one here with some pics of my fabrication.
do you know of any other threads on three S eye?
i've posted a thread or two over there, i've got one here with some pics of my fabrication.
Knight2040
08-04-2006, 12:52 AM
hmmm yinlun also used the 94 glass housings also...and he had 95 stealth lights...which is what i have. hmmm i dunno, i'll do more reserarch
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