Steering Linkage, Wire-diagrams, help?
JstCloseUrEyes
02-03-2006, 01:58 PM
Hello guys and gals, I have three questions
Firstly,My key was gettting stuck in the ignition for a while, but, then it stopped, and I know this is documented, what are the exact parts that need to be replaced to fix this problem?
Second, The car should have a shift lock which makes it so you can't shift out of park without hitting the brake. However, mine is not functioning, the shifter will shift without the brake, because when i press the button on the shift knob, it disengages..what could be the problem?
Finally, does anyone have a wiring diagram of the linkage between the shifter, trasmission, and steering column?
I know thats a lot to ask but I appreciate the help
-Chris
oh hell, PS. If i remove the airbox, and just use a K&N cone filter, will that cause over-heating of the PCM as it is housed in the airbox? My mechanic stated that it's in there to cool the unit, However, I'd also like some input from the GP gods, hehe,
thanks again!
Firstly,My key was gettting stuck in the ignition for a while, but, then it stopped, and I know this is documented, what are the exact parts that need to be replaced to fix this problem?
Second, The car should have a shift lock which makes it so you can't shift out of park without hitting the brake. However, mine is not functioning, the shifter will shift without the brake, because when i press the button on the shift knob, it disengages..what could be the problem?
Finally, does anyone have a wiring diagram of the linkage between the shifter, trasmission, and steering column?
I know thats a lot to ask but I appreciate the help
-Chris
oh hell, PS. If i remove the airbox, and just use a K&N cone filter, will that cause over-heating of the PCM as it is housed in the airbox? My mechanic stated that it's in there to cool the unit, However, I'd also like some input from the GP gods, hehe,
thanks again!
BNaylor
02-03-2006, 02:52 PM
Sounds like your first and second probelms are related. There is a high probablity it is the complete shifter assembly in the center console. Replace that and the key release will probably work OK too. Of course this is just an educated guess without troubleshooting the circuit.
What year and model GP do you have? I might have the wiring diagram of the BTSI system.
On your final question I don't see any problem with the PCM overheating. A lot us of with DHP or Intense PCMs and CAI/FWI don't have the air box either.
What year and model GP do you have? I might have the wiring diagram of the BTSI system.
On your final question I don't see any problem with the PCM overheating. A lot us of with DHP or Intense PCMs and CAI/FWI don't have the air box either.
JstCloseUrEyes
02-03-2006, 10:29 PM
Sounds like your first and second probelms are related. There is a high probablity it is the complete shifter assembly in the center console. Replace that and the key release will probably work OK too. Of course this is just an educated guess without troubleshooting the circuit.
What year and model GP do you have? I might have the wiring diagram of the BTSI system.
On your final question I don't see any problem with the PCM overheating. A lot us of with DHP or Intense PCMs and CAI/FWI don't have the air box either.
Hmm, your guess makes sense, but, the problem is so intermittent, that its really hard to trouble shoot.
The car is a 2000 GT, if you have the diagram, that'd be great
And thanks for the input for the PCM, i had a feeling that it wouldn't matter too much...so, i'll take on the intake later
Thanks alot fot he help you've already given me, btw.
What year and model GP do you have? I might have the wiring diagram of the BTSI system.
On your final question I don't see any problem with the PCM overheating. A lot us of with DHP or Intense PCMs and CAI/FWI don't have the air box either.
Hmm, your guess makes sense, but, the problem is so intermittent, that its really hard to trouble shoot.
The car is a 2000 GT, if you have the diagram, that'd be great
And thanks for the input for the PCM, i had a feeling that it wouldn't matter too much...so, i'll take on the intake later
Thanks alot fot he help you've already given me, btw.
richtazz
02-04-2006, 09:45 AM
It doesn't make any sense that the BTSI solenoid isn't available separately for the GT/GTP with the console shifter(you'll need an entire shifter assembly if the solenoid proves to be bad). There is a possibility that if you ever spilled a beverage in the center console, that it is mucked up with sticky residue, and some disassembly and cleaning could free it up.
JstCloseUrEyes
02-04-2006, 08:36 PM
It doesn't make any sense that the BTSI solenoid isn't available separately for the GT/GTP with the console shifter(you'll need an entire shifter assembly if the solenoid proves to be bad). There is a possibility that if you ever spilled a beverage in the center console, that it is mucked up with sticky residue, and some disassembly and cleaning could free it up.
well rich, i did spill something a while back, but, took apart the center console and cleaned up as much as I can. But, The thing with the shift lock release being with the button, and not the brake, can that be due to a spilled drink, or more? Is there anyway to test this issue?
Also, about the wiring diagrams... are they out there?
Thanks Rich
-Chris
well rich, i did spill something a while back, but, took apart the center console and cleaned up as much as I can. But, The thing with the shift lock release being with the button, and not the brake, can that be due to a spilled drink, or more? Is there anyway to test this issue?
Also, about the wiring diagrams... are they out there?
Thanks Rich
-Chris
BNaylor
02-04-2006, 08:57 PM
Sorry, can't help with the BTSI wiring diagram. I only have 97 -99 GPs. GM in their infinite wisdom changed wiring color coding and even pin configurations on 2000 and up model years. However, the principles of operation are still the same.
JstCloseUrEyes
02-04-2006, 11:42 PM
Sorry, can't help with the BTSI wiring diagram. I only have 97 -99 GPs. GM in their infinite wisdom changed wiring color coding and even pin configurations on 2000 and up model years. However, the principles of operation are still the same.
Alright, thanks a lot though, really... i'll never get why GM changes things that aren't broken/don't catch fire.. but.. I'll try to find out what parts, if any, need to be replaced, starting with the cheapest ones first (textbooks don't buy themselves)
But, I still don't know where to start with that
Alright, thanks a lot though, really... i'll never get why GM changes things that aren't broken/don't catch fire.. but.. I'll try to find out what parts, if any, need to be replaced, starting with the cheapest ones first (textbooks don't buy themselves)
But, I still don't know where to start with that
BNaylor
02-05-2006, 12:22 AM
Alright, thanks a lot though, really... i'll never get why GM changes things that aren't broken/don't catch fire.. but.. I'll try to find out what parts, if any, need to be replaced, starting with the cheapest ones first (textbooks don't buy themselves)
But, I still don't know where to start with that
Send me a PM. I'll need an email address to send a PDF file attachment. It will give you an idea how the circuit looks on paper. It may even be useable for troubleshooting but some of the wiring as to color code may not match. For that circuit you'll need to troubleshoot using a multimeter to prove which part is bad. BTW - I cannot post copyrighted material in a regular message thread.
But, I still don't know where to start with that
Send me a PM. I'll need an email address to send a PDF file attachment. It will give you an idea how the circuit looks on paper. It may even be useable for troubleshooting but some of the wiring as to color code may not match. For that circuit you'll need to troubleshoot using a multimeter to prove which part is bad. BTW - I cannot post copyrighted material in a regular message thread.
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