Srt4 vs. Stang GT

It wasn't too big of a race but the only planed one with the srt4 since I've had it. I would have video taped it but I ran out of tape:banghead:

So me and my friend are walking into sears to return a wrench I bought to only use for one bolt:nono: and my friend's friend in a 96(or so) GT drives up. We quickly return the wrench and decide to meet on one of the less trafficed roads since it was almost 5 oclock traffic time. We did a total of 3 races.
1) From a 20mph roll, I took him immediately by about 4-5cars:icon16:
2) From a dig, I spun through 1st and half in 2nd but once I reached 3rd I caught up and got him by about 2 cars.
3) Also from a dig, same thing as the second race but right before I started to catch up someone pulled right into my lane so race was prematurely ended.


His mods were catback exhaust, K&N intake system, Cobra tranny???, and some new tires. He was claming about 260hrspwr and 300-310tq. Mine were exactly as listed except no stage 1( that was sitting on my doorstep when I got back:smokin: )

Pretty good race, we'll be doing a second run soon now that I have stage 1:ylsuper:

How much faster are the Srt-4's compared to the SX2.0 ??(known as Neon in states) SX 2.0 in canada...

stock its a high 13 sec car.

what does stage 1 add?

motor trend says the SRT-4 get 1/4 mile in 14.4sec @100mph.

My durango is what... i guess a high 17, to 18 second 1/4... then the SX 2.0 is high 19 then... Those are guesses based on comparible results from my searches.

the "Rango" w/ the 5.7L v8 get a 1/4 mile in 15.8sec @87mph. we got the 4.7L, and it seems pretty quick too.

motor trend couldnt drive when they did that test. ive seen 13.7 stock

yea, i thaught it was a little slow also.

motor trend couldnt drive when they did that test. ive seen 13.7 stock
a 99-04 GT can hit 13.7 stock. a 96 GT cannot. the race involved a 96 GT, which was definitely slower than the 99-04.

stock its a high 13 sec car.

what does stage 1 add?

S1 basically adds more fuel, better throttle response, no CEL's, ability to boost during wot shifiting(I've tried that but was only able to get about 5psi:uhoh:), and allows you to run more boost. I installed it last night and took it for a run and definitely noticed a difference.

a 99-04 GT can hit 13.7 stock. a 96 GT cannot. the race involved a 96 GT, which was definitely slower than the 99-04.

they were talkin bout the srt4. but still, its not likely to happen, sure some of em can hit high 13s, but i doubt most of them do. also i doubt youll ever see a stock 99-04 gt run a 13.7, but if you have then it sure surprises me.

they were talkin bout the srt4. but still, its not likely to happen, sure some of em can hit high 13s, but i doubt most of them do. also i doubt youll ever see a stock 99-04 gt run a 13.7, but if you have then it sure surprises me.
*cough* *cough* oh dont mind that crap I'm coughing up. it's just my foot. :eek:

srt-4s and 99-04 stang GTs hits high 13s bone stock? come on man!!!! l doubt it..

well l got a 97 LT1 formula.. and l am not a race maniac actually l hardly race. and people say that LT1 s are high 13s or low 14s. so u guys are saying that srt-4s are and 99-04 stang GTs are faster than LT1?

first l raced with a stang GT it was 99-04 stang. from a dig l got him and l posted here too. and l drive an auto car. just cat back exhaust system l have. l am confused now!

99-04 gt is a low 14 second for the most part, ive never seen 13's out of them, but its possible i guess

srt-4 can get 13's but you have to be a good driver

im glade i have all engine...all i need to do is press the pedal and stay in my lane..lol....now when i drive my 93 honda civic lx pushing 99hp atlease well probally 105 now that i added those decals on my windows and spray painted the interior thats when i have to be a good driver.

[QUOTE=GForce957]99-04 gt is a low 14 second for the most part, ive never seen 13's out of them, but its possible i guess


04 str-4
225 hp.
2900 lbs.
front wheel drive.

LT1 trans am/ formula
285 hp.
3311 lbs.
rear wheel drive


so u mean srt-4 is faster ?

l thought LT1s were way faster... l am really confused now man!!!

i believe the 225 is underrated.

You have an automatic with 2.73 gears correct? thats gonna slow u down

I would say they are very close, ive never seen a race between either so i dunno for sure, but i think the srt is faster

His mods were catback exhaust, K&N intake system, Cobra tranny???, and some new tires. He was claming about 260hrspwr and 300-310tq. Mine were exactly as listed except no stage 1( that was sitting on my doorstep when I got back:smokin: )
I'm going to call BS on the power he said it had. The 96 Mustang only made 215 HP and 285 lb-ft torque at the crank stock. I don’t see a catback and K&N adding enough HP to get 260 300 at the wheels. About the Cobra transmission as far as I know the N/A Cobra and the Mustang GT used the same transmission, but don’t see how it would effect his cars performance.

A 96 GT with flowmasters and K&N is a 14.9 car on a good day. Nice kill nonetheless.

i believe the 225 is underrated.

You have an automatic with 2.73 gears correct? thats gonna slow u down

I would say they are very close, ive never seen a race between either so i dunno for sure, but i think the srt is faster


well yeah l got auto 2.73 gear. but l didnt say that for myself. l said it for every LT1 trans ams. manual tranny. and l still dont believe that srt-4s are faster than lt1s man.

mine has 128k miles on it and l dont think l have 285 hp. anymore and l am not using it for racing but it is still fast anyway.. so l am not saying that l can beat them. but l beated a 99-04 stang GT. with this high mileage auto car. maybe he wasnt a good driver but l got him.

l will post a new thread and ask this on firebird forum and l will see what they think about this and l let u know guys.

yeah, i dont really know so im just going by a guess.

Also, didnt the manuals come with 3.42 gears?

I'm going to call BS on the power he said it had. The 96 Mustang only made 215 HP and 285 lb-ft torque at the crank stock. I don’t see a catback and K&N adding enough HP to get 260 300 at the wheels. About the Cobra transmission as far as I know the N/A Cobra and the Mustang GT used the same transmission, but don’t see how it would effect his cars performance.


Edit> I just found some more stuff about his car, it had a larger MAF, full exhaust rather than catback, 3.96 rear end...??(something like that). I'm not sure if any of that means anything but whatever...

Im enlesshearts friend, who was in the car with him during the time. He was only boosting about 14 psi. (vs. 17 for stock) The mustang was killing him off the line and through the first two gears but in third imidiatly passed him back up and would have put bus lengths on him if we had the room. Guy in the mustangs cool though.

man,

l just asked there and one guy answered (he knows better than many people) he said if they are both bone stock it would be drivers race..

now l am convinced. they re fast too.. and l really dont know about how manuals came.

srt-4 can hit 13's and also 99- 04 stang gt's
but were talkin 13.9-8 13.7 is unlikely

Gt's stats
Engine : V8, SOHC, front engine RWD
Displacement : 4,605 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 2 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 4-spd automatic
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 24-26 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Live axle
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 260 hp @ 5250 rpm
Torque : 302 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : unknown

Top speed : 140 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.1 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.2 sec @ 98.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 135 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.84 g

Curb Weight : 3273-3317 lbs(coupe), 3429-3477 lbs(convertible)
Overall length : 183.5 in.
Wheelbase : 101.3 in.
Overall Width : 73.1 in.
Height : 53.1 in.(coupe), 53.5 in.(convertible)

Srt-4 stats

2003-2005 Dodge Neon SRT-4


Created by Dodge's PVO team, the SRT-4 powered by a 2.4L turbo engine. The engine, underrated at 215 hp in 2003, is now rated at 230 hp and comes standard with an LSD for 2004. Numerous Mopar upgrades are also available.

Base price : $18,970 Get a free price quote

Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 2,429 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 22 mpg
highway - 30 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent multilink
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 230 hp @ 5300 rpm
Torque : 250 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm
Redline : 6750 rpm

Top speed : 153 mph
0-60 mph : 5.6 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.2 sec @ 102.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 120 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.85 g

Curb Weight : 2970 lbs
Overall length : 175.7 in.
Wheelbase : 105.0 in.
Overall Width : 67.4 in.
Height : 56.5 in.

where do u get those stats

various places, here's one

http://www.modernracer.com/index.html

srt-4 can hit 13's and also 99- 04 stang gt's
but were talkin 13.9-8 13.7 is unlikely

Gt's stats
Engine : V8, SOHC, front engine RWD
Displacement : 4,605 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 2 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 4-spd automatic
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 24-26 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Live axle
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 260 hp @ 5250 rpm
Torque : 302 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : unknown

Top speed : 140 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.1 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.2 sec @ 98.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 135 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.84 g

Curb Weight : 3273-3317 lbs(coupe), 3429-3477 lbs(convertible)
Overall length : 183.5 in.
Wheelbase : 101.3 in.
Overall Width : 73.1 in.
Height : 53.1 in.(coupe), 53.5 in.(convertible)

Srt-4 stats

2003-2005 Dodge Neon SRT-4


Created by Dodge's PVO team, the SRT-4 powered by a 2.4L turbo engine. The engine, underrated at 215 hp in 2003, is now rated at 230 hp and comes standard with an LSD for 2004. Numerous Mopar upgrades are also available.

Base price : $18,970 Get a free price quote

Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 2,429 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 22 mpg
highway - 30 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent multilink
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 230 hp @ 5300 rpm
Torque : 250 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm
Redline : 6750 rpm

Top speed : 153 mph
0-60 mph : 5.6 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.2 sec @ 102.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 120 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.85 g

Curb Weight : 2970 lbs
Overall length : 175.7 in.
Wheelbase : 105.0 in.
Overall Width : 67.4 in.
Height : 56.5 in.


here what autotrader says about srt-4s stats.

Horsepower 225 hp @ 5100 rpm

Torque 240 ft-lbs @ 2400 rpm

sweet, thanks. Usually i cant find most stats on one page, so i have to go to like 4

Edit> I just found some more stuff about his car, it had a larger MAF, full exhaust rather than catback, 3.96 rear end...??(something like that). I'm not sure if any of that means anything but whatever...
Well I don't know enough about the Mustang to know if the larger MAF does much, but the gears should make the car a lot faster form a stop.

i would think a LT1 would slightly edge out a mustang gt but it would be close no doubt about it. one thing to watch for is what tranny the mustang has because the C4 auto trannies they put in those cars ate horsepower like it was its job. theres a considerable difference between auto mustangs and manuals. thankfully they changed the auto in 05 to a very efficient 5 spd auto tranny.

im sorry bud, but the srt is a closer competitor to teh LS1 than the LT1. i have built many fast camaros, including one that is nearly 650hp sitting in our shop now, but stock for stock, and srt would wax an LT1. again, its closer to an ls1 z28 camaro

Im enlesshearts friend, who was in the car with him during the time. He was only boosting about 14 psi. (vs. 17 for stock) The mustang was killing him off the line and through the first two gears but in third imidiatly passed him back up and would have put bus lengths on him if we had the room. Guy in the mustangs cool though.

how the hell is he boostin 17psi stock.....even 14psi is a little high....

im sorry bud, but the srt is a closer competitor to teh LS1 than the LT1.


Well the ls1 would EASILY wax the srt. Hardly close competition there either...

Back on track here... forget a 99 GT, it was a 96 he raced and they are slow. Nothing really surprises me when they get beat.

here what autotrader says about srt-4s stats.

Horsepower 225 hp @ 5100 rpm

Torque 240 ft-lbs @ 2400 rpm


stock SRT-4's dynos 230-235whp. so that number is very very underrated. those cars traps 101-103mph stock. that is prove of how much power they make. 101-103mph in the 1/4 with a 2900lb car is what a 235whp car should be doing.

im sorry bud, but the srt is a closer competitor to teh LS1 than the LT1. i have built many fast camaros, including one that is nearly 650hp sitting in our shop now, but stock for stock, and srt would wax an LT1. again, its closer to an ls1 z28 camaro


man, l just posted new thread in firebird forum. and they say srt-4 will not kill an LT1. it would be drivers race. and it would be extremely close.. how can u compare and 340 HP.LS1 with that srt-4??

here is the link, talk about it here..

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3790588&posted=1#post3790588

even here people say that srt-4 vs LT1 would be a very close race.. because numbers are almost the same. a stock LT1 runs high 13s or low 14s. and the same for srt-4. so why u say that?

how can u compare and 340 HP.LS1 with thatsrt-4??


Because he has no idea what he's talking about...^^^

A fresh lt1 and an srt would be a drivers' race in the 1/4. From a roll the srt will win. An srt vs. an ls1 is not a race at all given even driver ability. Even from a roll the srt will not catch the ls1. End of story.

From a roll the srt will win.
Really I thought the Firebird had a pretty big aerodynamic advantage over the SRT-4.

from a roll LT1 will kill the srt-4 man.. firebirds are faster from rolls. do u know how l know that? on firebird forum, everybody say that. sometimes some guys are having hard time to beat some cars, and they are coming and asking on firebird forum and everybody suggest them race from a roll.

from a roll LT1 will kill the srt-4 man.. firebirds are faster from rolls. do u know how l know that? on firebird forum, everybody say that. sometimes some guys are having hard time to beat some cars, and they are coming and asking on firebird forum and everybody suggest them race from a roll.

Bad thing is that you could probably go over to the srt-4 forum and they would all say the srt-4 was faster. Never try to get an un-biased opinion about a car different from that particular forum........especially when its an fbody forum. :p We all know fbodies never lose!!!! :lol:

Bad thing is that you could probably go over to the srt-4 forum and they would all say the srt-4 was faster. Never try to get an un-biased opinion about a car different from that particular forum........especially when its an fbody forum. :p We all know fbodies never lose!!!! :lol:


well there are some guys on firebird forum, they are moderator and they are really honest.. if it is slower they say it. well l have an LT1 97 year and has 128k miles on it so mine is not faster than an srt-4 l guess, l guess they couldnt blow my doors off, l could keep up with them but l cant beat l guess because it is a tired car. but in good tune LT1s will not lose to an srt-4. they know that too.. and yes.. FBODIES WILL NEVER LOSE. they re real muscle cars. if they would have the turbo, ............. l dont know what to say, u imagine:D

FBodys suck... they're the poor mans Corvette.

True story.:uhoh:

^^^^haha......anyways to the guy that cant decide wether or not your car can beat an srt.....my advice to you is just go race one and find........... out.........nobody can tell you wether or not your can can win or lose only you would know that..........but from my experience I have beat my friends lt1
already but that cant say much cause all cars arent created equal.....

like i've said before, a SRT4 puts down similar whp stock as your LT1. there was a automatic LT1 in my class with a auto matic and with a exhaust cutout and intake with a minor tune he made like 250whp, with the cut out blocked off, he made like 230whp which is similar to what a SRT4 puts down stock, but in a 500-600lb lighter body.

^^^^haha......anyways to the guy that cant decide wether or not your car can beat an srt.....my advice to you is just go race one and find........... out.........nobody can tell you wether or not your can can win or lose only you would know that..........but from my experience I have beat my friends lt1
already but that cant say much cause all cars arent created equal.....

l didnt say that l could beat an srt-4 man. with my car l cant. cuz it s 128k miles on it and it is aUTO. l just wanted to know general, which car was faster. l didnt say who would win, me or an srt-4.

they were talkin bout the srt4. but still, its not likely to happen, sure some of em can hit high 13s, but i doubt most of them do. also i doubt youll ever see a stock 99-04 gt run a 13.7, but if you have then it sure surprises me.
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l didnt say that l could beat an srt-4 man. with my car l cant. cuz it s 128k miles on it and it is aUTO. l just wanted to know general, which car was faster. l didnt say who would win, me or an srt-4.

I dont know bro........stock to stock I think the skittles would edge out the lt1 do to most of the lt1s on the road are tired and the skittles are fairly new...but if they were both at thier peak I would say it would be a pretty good match.......like the skittles arch nemesis the mustang gt.......well at least the 99-2004 at least.............lol

motor trend says the SRT-4 get 1/4 mile in 14.4sec @100mph.
no the '03 gets 14.4 1/4 mi. but the '04 on car and driver turns 13'8-13'9 1/4mi. bro.

im not gonna read the whole thread ill just give the times. pre99 gt's have 215 crank hp stock so catback exhaust isent gonna give him 80rwhp. either that or he is a retard and giving the numbers for 99-04 gt's crank hp and doesent no the difference between the generations. SRT-4's run low 14's stock and there record is 13.9, the same thing goes for 99-04 gt's so any bullshit about mid 13's or whatever the hell else people come up with is false

record is 13.9 huh?

i guess 209 srt is lying with his 13.8

record is 13.9 huh?

i guess 209 srt is lying with his 13.8 a roach wont hit 13.8 without weight reduction

a roach wont hit 13.8 without weight reduction


roach??? hmmm...I'm thinking the record of stock everything is 13.7. Factory freek mixed with good driver equals:p

a roach wont hit 13.8 without weight reduction

I ran a 13.8@105 with a 2.1 60' bone stock on stock KDWs....:grinno: ..I guess I have a super roach...........

I ran a 13.8@105 with a 2.1 60' bone stock on stock KDWs....:grinno: ..I guess I have a super roach...........


You're my hero:p

You're my hero:p

theres no need to fear 209 SRT is here...........(said in a super heros voice)..