intake ?

i have a simple question. i have a 98 civic and would like to buy a intake but the question is which 1? a short ram or the long one ?? whats the difference between the 2????? which would be better?

Cold air intakes (the longer ones) get colder air, because it gets air from outside the engine bay (which is heated by the engine). The colder the air, the more dense it is. The more dense the air, more air molecules will be able to be pushed into the engine. One draw back is the filter placement. With a CAI, it is possible to suck up water and hyrdolock your engine. So if you do go with the CAI, try not to drive through big puddles or follow too closely behind people when it's raining really bad (the water that is kicked up by their tires and the water that rolls off their car). If it's too much to deal with, just get a K&N drop in filter for the stock air box.

it dont do anything when you hit BIG puddles or follow closely behind someone... my filter sits right where there is a hole in the bumper... bout an inch back, and if oyu look hard enough you can see it. Whenever i drive through a BIG puddle, or follow closely behind someone it dosnt do anything.. i think its only possible when the filter is fully submerged in a 1-2 foot deep puddle you might drive through cause your stupid... i've had mine on for 6 mo. now and had HEAVY rains in that time, and nothing... BUT.. i prolly wouldnt risk it if you had a "nice" motor... i can replace mine for about $600, and i wouldnt mind it cause it would just give me an excuse to do it, so i dont care to risk it.

My friend came close to hydrolocking his engine a few years ago, and if you do a search on H-T you'll see countless threads about others who have. It DOES happen, and not just with 1-2ft puddles. And I can never understand why people always try to correct me when I say it can happen, especially when there is visual proof of it happening on many occasions. I'm not saying that it's a very likely thing or that it happens every day, but it does happen. Companies and magazines can do all the tests in the world, but that doesn't prove a damn thing.

civicspoon is right. my car shut off on the interstate a few weeks ago when i was driving through some heavy rain and there are definately not 1-2 ft puddles on the interstate. i switched to a shortram last week. the risk just wasnt worth it. It is partly b/c i have a hole in my wheelwell where the air filter is form my tires rubbing but there is still a possibility for it to happen.

get the short ram its safer, cheaper, and it sounds meaner...the CAI will only make a 1-2hp difference compared to the SRI

get the short ram its safer, cheaper, and it sounds meaner...the CAI will only make a 1-2hp difference compared to the SRI
you are absolutely stupid, it won't make any hp difference. Intakes on stock honda civics most likely won't even help with performance (besides throttle response)



and why is this stupid intake therad in the JDM Motor and Parts info. Intakes have nothing to do with JDM parts... :rolleyes:


and another thing, this thread has been made more times than your sister has been laid. So try searching....

just go w/ the short ram because its cheaper and it isnt' going to matter one bit as far as power.....

you are absolutely stupid, it won't make any hp difference. Intakes on stock honda civics most likely won't even help with performance (besides throttle response)



and why is this stupid intake therad in the JDM Motor and Parts info. Intakes have nothing to do with JDM parts... :rolleyes:


and another thing, this thread has been made more times than your sister has been laid. So try searching....

if CAI doesnt help out any more than a SRI than why the fuck do they even make the damn thing and also make it more expensive? it has to help out a little more somehow and if it doesnt why dont you tell me why so you can make me shut up

Because if you don't have a high hp NA application, an intake is an intake. Intakes only frees up a few hp, nothing that could even be physically noticed. On the other hand if you're building a NA monster and need all the power you can get; you should be looking at some dyno sheets of each intake. You'd want to do that, to pick the right intake to give you power in the area of the powerband you will use the most. And the CAI is more expensive, because you're paying for more piping.

if CAI doesnt help out any more than a SRI than why the fuck do they even make the damn thing and also make it more expensive? it has to help out a little more somehow and if it doesnt why dont you tell me why so you can make me shut up
I never said that a CAI doesn't help out any more than a SRI, I said on a stock civic it won't. But when you're pushing out more hp than around 120 then it will make a difference. And it's more expensive because you pay for more piping which has to be bent and because they can charge more. No matter which intake he puts on his stock civic, it's not going to make a damn. A SRI might even hinder some hp. The stock intake is restrictive but it does suck in the cooler air and blocks off the hot air from the engine bay, which would make it better than a SRI on a stock civic.

I cannot believe this argument. I may not have a stock engine but I have had my CAI on for a couple of years now. I took the AEM by-pass off because it was a piece of crap and didn't really do anything. I've driven in heavy downpours following right behind people with no problem. The only time I've had a problem in rain is when wires got wet. So this is coming from experience. And I've had the short ram and the CAI and I think the CAI is better in the top end but it could just be my car runs better now...

For a stock motor, pay attention to dyno reading, if a manufacturer even has one. In most cases, 3 hp gain claim is really bogus. Yeah, it will gain 3 hp, but at close to redline. In many cases, CAI or ram air intakes actually drop hp and torque at lower rpm. So essentially, you actually have a slower car. Take a look at the following dynos.

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/24-6100%2001-03%20Honda%20Civic%20Ex.pdf

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/21-500%2001-03%20Civic%20EX%20CAS.pdf

AEM is actually reputable enough to post these dyno results. Anyways, the first one is for V2 intake on 01-03 Civic EX. Believe it or not this one is pretty good because it actually gives you gain of HP and torque in most rpm range. On the other hand, the second one, which is a CAI from AEM, actually drops hp and torque through out the rpm range except at the high range. Obviously results are diffrent on different make and model. AEM is actually nice to show the actual product data. So to show my point, on a "stock" engine you really have to do some research to find the right intake. Ones that you find on ebay don't really have any performance data. I guess you can kind of assume that you are buying it for the looks.