Does traction control take away power?
jbizel
01-30-2006, 09:08 PM
I was just wondering if the the traction control takes away power? I heard that you get more power if the traction control is off. Does anyone know? thanks
troy1
01-30-2006, 09:11 PM
Yea if you start to spin the wheels it will cut the fuel or retard the timing (I thought I heard mine backfire once) and make the engine stumble to keep you from wrecking stuff. If its not active there is no change in performace
nfoss
01-30-2006, 09:50 PM
It just cuts power to the wheel that's spinning, yeh? Not completely, but fractionally until it regains control. When my tires spin in the snow, the TRAC light comes on and I can keep spinning, if I wish.
MT-2500
01-30-2006, 09:59 PM
Traction control does not cut power to the wheels.
It operates threw the ABS brake system.
If one wheel starts to spin out the abs brakes turns on brake to take wheel and that switches the power to the other wheel.
I had that same thing when I was a kid back on the farm driving farm tractors. when one wheel started to spin step on the brake for that wheel and the other wheel pulled you out of the mud hole. :grinyes: :lol:
It operates threw the ABS brake system.
If one wheel starts to spin out the abs brakes turns on brake to take wheel and that switches the power to the other wheel.
I had that same thing when I was a kid back on the farm driving farm tractors. when one wheel started to spin step on the brake for that wheel and the other wheel pulled you out of the mud hole. :grinyes: :lol:
nfoss
01-30-2006, 10:17 PM
I stand corrected, sir.
Nice to know exactly how basic stuff on my car works :)
Nice to know exactly how basic stuff on my car works :)
troy1
01-30-2006, 10:29 PM
On my 99 with the latest flash for the PCM it cuts fuel or timing and it very hard to continue to spin the wheels all though you can still spin them on my 01 Impala that uses the ABS system but I have not updated the PCM yet to see if it changes how it operates
MT-2500
01-30-2006, 10:38 PM
I stand corrected, sir.
Nice to know exactly how basic stuff on my car works :)
10-4 on that. glad to help. It took me a while to figure it out.
But that is the only way it can do it.
An actually it might use a little power up when it does it.
But it will get you out of a slick spot. Got better than pushing it out.:grinyes:
Nice to know exactly how basic stuff on my car works :)
10-4 on that. glad to help. It took me a while to figure it out.
But that is the only way it can do it.
An actually it might use a little power up when it does it.
But it will get you out of a slick spot. Got better than pushing it out.:grinyes:
BNaylor
01-31-2006, 06:11 AM
On my 99 with the latest flash for the PCM it cuts fuel or timing and it very hard to continue to spin the wheels all though you can still spin them on my 01 Impala that uses the ABS system but I have not updated the PCM yet to see if it changes how it operates
I agree with Troy1. The basic or enhanced traction control (ETS) system reduces power and also uses the tranny by upshifting, if necessary to limit wheelspin. It does not apply the brakes at all. It depends on what GM car you have and model, options etc.
Now on a lot of L67 equipped cars like the GTP and Regal GS, they have a full-range traction control system. When slippery road conditions are encountered and one or more wheels are spinning or there is a loss of traction, the system will apply or work the front brakes and reduce engine power.
If you are racing it is highly recommended to disable traction control because it will screw things up by causing a loss of ET. For performance traction control should be taken to off. And for us guys that drag race we inhibit the traction control system totally by removing the fuse.
I hope this clears up the confusion. :biggrin:
I agree with Troy1. The basic or enhanced traction control (ETS) system reduces power and also uses the tranny by upshifting, if necessary to limit wheelspin. It does not apply the brakes at all. It depends on what GM car you have and model, options etc.
Now on a lot of L67 equipped cars like the GTP and Regal GS, they have a full-range traction control system. When slippery road conditions are encountered and one or more wheels are spinning or there is a loss of traction, the system will apply or work the front brakes and reduce engine power.
If you are racing it is highly recommended to disable traction control because it will screw things up by causing a loss of ET. For performance traction control should be taken to off. And for us guys that drag race we inhibit the traction control system totally by removing the fuse.
I hope this clears up the confusion. :biggrin:
nfoss
01-31-2006, 09:07 AM
My 97GT just has a button to turn it off - which is nice, because I like speed, and I like not getting stuck in the Pennsylvania snow.
BNaylor
01-31-2006, 09:45 AM
My 97GT just has a button to turn it off - which is nice, because I like speed, and I like not getting stuck in the Pennsylvania snow.
We all have the capability to turn trac control off when not needed. However, depending on driving or racing conditions turning trac off at the button does not totally inhibit the traction control system. Many of us found that out a long time ago.
We all have the capability to turn trac control off when not needed. However, depending on driving or racing conditions turning trac off at the button does not totally inhibit the traction control system. Many of us found that out a long time ago.
nfoss
01-31-2006, 10:01 AM
Aha..so where's that fuse again :D
BNaylor
01-31-2006, 10:31 AM
Aha..so where's that fuse again :D
It is the fuse marked 28 in the engine compartment fuse box. Fuse 28 is labeled A/C CLU/ABS IGN. This should be done only under serious race conditions (street or strip) and not for normal daily driving. Since it shares the same fuse with the AC Clutch, the AC will not work while the fuse is out so I would not not recommend doing it unless absolutely necessary. For strip it works fine since it kills two birds with one stone by disabling the AC and traction control EBTCM module.
Also, some early production 1997 Grand Prixs will not have the capability to remove the fuse because fuse 28 is AC Clutch only. It is applicable to '97.5 models and from 1998 through 99 models. I am not sure about 2000 and up models.
Check the decal on the fuse box lid to see if this is applicable to your model GP.
It is the fuse marked 28 in the engine compartment fuse box. Fuse 28 is labeled A/C CLU/ABS IGN. This should be done only under serious race conditions (street or strip) and not for normal daily driving. Since it shares the same fuse with the AC Clutch, the AC will not work while the fuse is out so I would not not recommend doing it unless absolutely necessary. For strip it works fine since it kills two birds with one stone by disabling the AC and traction control EBTCM module.
Also, some early production 1997 Grand Prixs will not have the capability to remove the fuse because fuse 28 is AC Clutch only. It is applicable to '97.5 models and from 1998 through 99 models. I am not sure about 2000 and up models.
Check the decal on the fuse box lid to see if this is applicable to your model GP.
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