PT turbo vs 3000gt

So I'm on my way over to a buddies house to help him install a deck in his Jeep and I see a car up ahead with green neon underneath it. I figure I'll check it out and see what it is. I get close enough to see its a Pt cruiser turbo with purple flames on the side, silver tail lights, and a loud system in it. I get right next to him and he he hits the gas for a few seconds and lets me catch up to him agian. Once I'm even with him he punches it agian and I do likewise. (were each going about 63 mph) This was a great place for me to start because I was already near the top of my powerband. It looked even until about 78 I started to pull my back bumper to his front. Come 100 i'm about little over a cars length ahead. We ended shutting down at 110 due to traffic ahead and I glance back and he's about 1.5-2 car lengths back. He catches back up to me then and rolls down his window. He looks at me and says "damn, NICE race"! It was quite a bit of fun. I figured a turbo PT could hang on better than he did. By this time I had missed my turn to go to my buddies so I head back in the other direction. It was kind of dumb car to race but it was the turbo so I figured why not. No regrets here.

I believe there was a low pressure turbo and SRT-4 powered PT Cruiser. I'm sure your car would beat the low pressure one. Nice kill.

I still don't understand Dodge, as i'm sure they must have alot of gm executives in it, as they killed off the SRT-4 for that P.O.S. Caliber.

if it was an 05 then it would be a closer race. nonetheless, nice kill, car only has 12hp less than you

Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 2,429 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 4-spd automanual
Fuel economy : city - 19-21 mpg
highway - 25-27 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent trailing arms
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 215 hp @ 5000 rpm('03-'04),
220-230 hp @ 5100 rpm('05+)
Torque : 245 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm('03-'04), 245 lb-ft @ 2400 rpm('05+)
Redline : 6240 rpm

Top speed : 120 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 7.2 sec.('03 auto), 6.9 sec.('05 manual)
0-¼ mile : 15.7 sec @ 88.9 mph('03 auto)
60-0 braking distance : 130 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.78 g

Curb Weight : 3304-3335 lbs
Overall length : 168.8 in.
Wheelbase : 103.0 in.
Overall Width : 67.1 in.
Height : 63.0 in.

Damn, apparently you know your PT cruisers!

Good kill, glad to hear that he wasn't a dumbass about losing.

I've thought about picking up one of those PT Turbos a few times, they can be found sooooo cheap for how new and how little miles they have and they'd make good sleepers once you shave the badges.

I still don't understand Dodge, as i'm sure they must have alot of gm executives in it, as they killed off the SRT-4 for that P.O.S. Caliber.

I dont understand them neither......took them nearly 9yrs to get a clue on the street scene.......they finally get it........ keep it for 3yrs......then dump it.....:banghead: :disappoin WTF

I believe there was a low pressure turbo and SRT-4 powered PT Cruiser. I'm sure your car would beat the low pressure one. Nice kill.

I still don't understand Dodge, as i'm sure they must have alot of gm executives in it, as they killed off the SRT-4 for that P.O.S. Caliber.

I'm confused on this. So there was a PT Cruiser with the same engine specs as a SRT-4. The SRT-4 would kill me though right? Or was there a high and low pressure turbo available in the SRT-4 and Cruiser?

I'm confused on this. So there was a PT Cruiser with the same engine specs as a SRT-4. The SRT-4 would kill me though right? Or was there a high and low pressure turbo available in the SRT-4 and Cruiser?

its the weight that kills the pt lucky for you it wasnt a staged one, that wouldve been deadly. other then that good one:bigthumb:

looks like those pt cruisers are gonna be the twin of the neon srt-4s

looks like those pt cruisers are gonna be the twin of the neon srt-4s

The ugly deformed twin that eveyone thought wasnt going to live more then a year.:lol:

I dont understand them neither......took them nearly 9yrs to get a clue on the street scene.......they finally get it........ keep it for 3yrs......then dump it.....:banghead: :disappoin WTF
I thought the Neon SRT-4 was going to be replaced by a SRT-4 Caliber with a 250 hp turbo and AWD. And the Caliber is based on the Lancer, so the next SRT-4 is going be a poor man’s EVO.

I thought the Neon SRT-4 was going to be replaced by a SRT-4 Caliber with a 250 hp turbo and AWD. And the Caliber is based on the Lancer, so the next SRT-4 is going be a poor man’s EVO.

Lol not really, the new caliber is just a piss of shit and the guy who came up with that should be shot!:shakehead I wouldn't even use caliber and evo in the same sentence.( damn't I just did:banghead: )

I'm thinking Dodge wanted to replace the Neon and by replacing the Neon they had to replace the srt too because a majority of the parts for the srt-4comes from the neon production line. It would be too expensive to just makes parts solely for the srt. Just my thoughts on the subject...

I was looking at those PT Cruiser GTs or Turbo (a comment was made on a mopar site as to why they didn't just call them GT Cruisers instead of PT Cruiser GT). The intake manifold looks different and I don't think they have a FMIC. Plus the weight as somebody mentioned makes it a pig compared to an SRT-4. Oh yeah, no boost gauge either. All the new PT Cruiser Convertibles seem to be equipped with the turbo. I still think they look too fugly even if priced decent...

I was looking at those PT Cruiser GTs or Turbo (a comment was made on a mopar site as to why they didn't just call them GT Cruisers instead of PT Cruiser GT). The intake manifold looks different and I don't think they have a FMIC. Plus the weight as somebody mentioned makes it a pig compared to an SRT-4. Oh yeah, no boost gauge either. All the new PT Cruiser Convertibles seem to be equipped with the turbo. I still think they look too fugly even if priced decent...


I dont like how the Pt's look either but a 90 CRX is no beauty either (just my opinion).

the gt crusiers are decent.....they have basically the same engine with less power and they weigh more........but with a little TLC they could be monsters.....

guys ever heard of something called aerodynamics? too many underestimate the power of aero dynamics. wich especially in the pt cruiser, plays a big part

^^^ True, which reminds me, have you guys seen that Jeep SRT-8? That thing is fast (0-60 in under 5 sec) and that thing has terrible aerodynamics. Although on your way to 60 your probably not experiencing a whole lot of wind resistance, but still, damn.

^^^ True, which reminds me, have you guys seen that Jeep SRT-8? That thing is fast (0-60 in under 5 sec) and that thing has terrible aerodynamics. Although on your way to 60 your probably not experiencing a whole lot of wind resistance, but still, damn.
425 hp + AWD = 0-60 in under 5. It’s got power and traction it doesn’t need aerodynamics.

420 hp but it makes little difference. The 1/4 times are fast as hell too. listed low 13's, it may get a little slower around 130-140 but who cares

there isnt "low and high pressure" versions of the PT Cruiser turbo. Its the same turbo in both and same boost. Its all in the ECU. Its called a "turbo-lite" model. The lower hp version (called turbo-lite) had something like 180hp. The high output model (some had a high output badge on it) had the numbers mentioned above. Put a Stage 1 computer on both the lite and high output models and the result will be the same power level. It brings them both up to equal levels. Its the same engine and turbo as the SRT4. The trans are different though...even the manual. Aerodynamics and weight are the two downfalls. Best dyno we got with ours (auto tranny and a few bolt-ons) was 215whp/246wtq, however I know AGP has a PT that is putting out a tad over 400hp!

even if they arent funny car fast..........who are they trying to impress matrixs, vibes, and focuses............hahaha

Lol not really, the new caliber is just a piss of shit and the guy who came up with that should be shot!:shakehead I wouldn't even use caliber and evo in the same sentence.( damn't I just did:banghead: )

I'm thinking Dodge wanted to replace the Neon and by replacing the Neon they had to replace the srt too because a majority of the parts for the srt-4comes from the neon production line. It would be too expensive to just makes parts solely for the srt. Just my thoughts on the subject...
I was right there is going to be an SRT-4 Caliber I was wrong about the HP it's going to be 300 not 250 and about it having AWD, but it look like it’s going to be a lot better then the SRT-4 Neon.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26517

They killed the SRT4??? Aww man, fuck that was the only Dodge I like other than the Stealth. I never even knew about this.
It looks like I'm getting to old. SO does that mean no more reproduction parts for the SRT4?

They killed the Neon for that?! That thing is ugly IMO. I mean sure, the thing has 300 HP and AWD. But exterior looks don't impress em at all. If I'm going to own a vehicle with such a great powerplant, I want it to look somewhat decently or bareable to my eyes. This thing, just doesn't...I'm so disappointed in Dodge...

It doesn’t have AWD. When I said “I was wrong about the HP it's going to be 300 not 250 and about it having AWD,”. I thought it was going to have AWD, but it turns out I was wrong it doesn’t have AWD. It’s FWD with an LSD just like the Neon SRT-4.

here just watch this......I like the power but I really dont like the car....but we will see when it hits......http://www.cartv.com/content/research/channels/index.cfm/channel/cartv_video/action/showvideo/vid/e_0236/vscat/Chicago_Auto_Show/vcat/Event/MAKE_VCH/Dodge/MODEL_VCH/SRT-4

if i wanted a minivan, i would have bought one. WHy do car companies keep thinking car enthusiast want a wagon? A wagon!?!?!?! By far the uglies car design ever created. Yeah that car just screams hip, i think my mother would like that car. . .

if i wanted a minivan, i would have bought one. WHy do car companies keep thinking car enthusiast want a wagon?
They don’t, like the SRT-4 Neon this isn’t an enthusiast’s car, this is a enthusiast version of a practical economy car.

The right now only affordable enthusiast’s car is the Mustang everything else under $30,000 is based on a family car or slow. That will change when the GXP Solstice comes out.

Thers olny One way for me to say that car is the real deal IMMA RACE ONE AS SOON AS I SEE ONE

here just watch this......I like the power but I really dont like the car....but we will see when it hits......http://www.cartv.com/content/research/channels/index.cfm/channel/cartv_video/action/showvideo/vid/e_0236/vscat/Chicago_Auto_Show/vcat/Event/MAKE_VCH/Dodge/MODEL_VCH/SRT-4


they're gonna replace the neon srt-4 with that wagon? that thing looks very un-sexy

PoonTang crusers = :gay: :silly: :newbie: :yugosmili :bananadie :greddy2: :puke: :banghead: :bananasmi

IMO :icon16:
I actually like the SRT-4

I mean, I wouldnt own one but I think they are neat! Always liked Neons...

if it was an 05 then it would be a closer race. nonetheless, nice kill, car only has 12hp less than you

Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 2,429 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 4-spd automanual
Fuel economy : city - 19-21 mpg
highway - 25-27 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent trailing arms
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 215 hp @ 5000 rpm('03-'04),
220-230 hp @ 5100 rpm('05+)
Torque : 245 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm('03-'04), 245 lb-ft @ 2400 rpm('05+)
Redline : 6240 rpm

Top speed : 120 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 7.2 sec.('03 auto), 6.9 sec.('05 manual)
0-¼ mile : 15.7 sec @ 88.9 mph('03 auto)
60-0 braking distance : 130 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.78 g

Curb Weight : 3304-3335 lbs
Overall length : 168.8 in.
Wheelbase : 103.0 in.
Overall Width : 67.1 in.
Height : 63.0 in.


Nice try, but I gotcha beat. The PT Cruiser had a 180hp turbocharged model as well. It essentially lacked the intercooler (and i'd assume ran less boost). It can be read about here:

http://www.ptcruizer.com/concepts/gt-cruiser.html

So what do I win?

there isnt "low and high pressure" versions of the PT Cruiser turbo. Its the same turbo in both and same boost. Its all in the ECU. Its called a "turbo-lite" model. The lower hp version (called turbo-lite) had something like 180hp.

sorry, someone beat ya too it
:icon16:

But I have pics :p

good kill

Now that it's been 3 weeks...can we let this thread die.

its dead....chuck has already gotten to it....