So Much BS So Little Time

Today I was at lunch in my High School when the local "Street Racers" came over to my table. The "leader" asked me if I thought I was fast, "Uh, no man I don't drive". He replied that heard I was talking smack about his Honda (bone stock D15 SOHC). "Yeah maybe it is pretty slow". At this point in time he was pissed. He said he heard I was working on "Import Killer" V8 and that it didn't have a prayer against his buddies 240 (also stock with painted interior). I told him that the Cutlass wasn't quite ready yet. He then proceeded to tell me that I was backing down from a challenge. Now I'm pissed, I inform him the Cutlass isn't mine it is my buddies I'm just building the motor (383 Stroker), and that if he wan'ts to run it then he will need to talk to him. He then calls me a bitch and informs me of his mad double clutch technique that can waste V8's. I was sick of the BS at this point and told him that I could drag him faster than his piece of shit will go and walked away. Moral of the story BS sucks. Anyway you guys ever hear so much BS that it actually stops being funny and becomes very irritating?

He then calls me a bitch and informs me of his mad double clutch technique that can waste V8's.?


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you hear that people^^ its called the f&f disease

Today I was at lunch in my High School when the local "Street Racers" came over to my table. The "leader" asked me if I thought I was fast, "Uh, no man I don't drive". He replied that heard I was talking smack about his Honda (bone stock D15 SOHC). "Yeah maybe it is pretty slow". At this point in time he was pissed. He said he heard I was working on "Import Killer" V8 and that it didn't have a prayer against his buddies 240 (also stock with painted interior). I told him that the Cutlass wasn't quite ready yet. He then proceeded to tell me that I was backing down from a challenge. Now I'm pissed, I inform him the Cutlass isn't mine it is my buddies I'm just building the motor (383 Stroker), and that if he wan'ts to run it then he will need to talk to him. He then calls me a bitch and informs me of his mad double clutch technique that can waste V8's. I was sick of the BS at this point and told him that I could drag him faster than his piece of shit will go and walked away. Moral of the story BS sucks. Anyway you guys ever hear so much BS that it actually stops being funny and becomes very irritating?
:uhoh: Does anyone actually still double clutch, no i didnt think so. What happened to the typical high school drama, geez i thought it was suppose to be the Varsity QB comin over to pickin on the guy tryin to take his girl, but now its racers oh sorry ricers.:lol:

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isnt double clutching for slowing down anyway.

when the car is finished you need to race him infront of as many people he knows as you can.

when the car is finished you need to race him infront of as many people he knows as you can.

:iceslolan

There's a kid at my school like that with a POS mid 60's stang with the 5.0L. It sounds like sh*t. He keeps bragging about how its not street legal (like its so fast when in fact it just doesnt have any cats). Its a rebuilt engine (stock) and says its so powerful it only gets 2-3 mpg. Every time I asked him if he'd race my 3kgt (though I almost always let others "challenge" me, but I just want to kick some ass where ass deserves to be kicked) he comes up with some excuse like he's working on it. I just give up and dont give a rats ass about people like that.

Mid 60's Stangs are awesome.

:uhoh: Does anyone actually still double clutch.

I do.

why double clutch when racing?:screwy: if anything, he should be power shifting

lol i would have told him he can race my mom in her minivan when she comes to pick me up from school, then you can watch him lose to your mother in a minivan.

Mid 60's Stangs are awesome.

When fixed up yes they are. This stang has an ugly faded green paint job, ripped to all hell interior, and an POS engine (which I believe he bought for $225). Now that I think about it its kind of like a Joe Dirt car except its a Ford.

When fixed up yes they are. This stang has an ugly faded green paint job, ripped to all hell interior, and an POS engine (which I believe he bought for $225). Now that I think about it its kind of like a Joe Dirt car except its a Ford.

:disappoin its a shame to see a ricer get his hands on a classic like that. there was a kid at my old high school that had a old firebird like that though, the car could have been pretty cool if he just fixed the damn thing up.

Wow...just wow...

Double clutching? I've heard if done right and fast enough you can get it to work but that's a big IF. I don't know though maybe I'm thinking of something else. As stated, sounds like too much F&F for this guy.

Try this number though, it worked back in the day. Tell him he's a pussy for using a clutch and real racers bang shift. Maybe he'll try it and ruin his transmission :dunno:

Wow...just wow...

Double clutching? I've heard if done right and fast enough you can get it to work but that's a big IF. I don't know though maybe I'm thinking of something else. As stated, sounds like too much F&F for this guy.

Try this number though, it worked back in the day. Tell him he's a pussy for using a clutch and real racers bang shift. Maybe he'll try it and ruin his transmission :dunno:

lol if you got him to do that it would be hilarious.

double clutching is when you dont have synchros and your slowing down, you push the clutch in, take it outa gear and let the clutch out and get the revs up to match engine speed, then put the clutch back in and downshift. i dont believe there would ever be any reason to do it accelerating, as the revs are already up.

Mid 60's Stangs are awesome.

no smog.........:naughty:

heh...

The Cutlass should be done this week so I'll get my buddy to race him over the weekend and I've started spreading the word about how much better speed shifting is so I'll see if it catches and the rice start to talk about that too (I told one guy how to double clutch and suddenly the whole school knows how to do it). So hopefully I'll be back to tell you guys about the race.

Let us know. I'll bet the max that if he loses he'll come up with some excuse like my car wasn't running well or it wouldn't shift into third at first. Or mabye he'll just storm out of there like a girl. (assuming you win which you better)

I double clutched when my clutch and tranny bearings were shot to hell. It worked for a couple of weeks, then I had to hold the tranny in 5th gear for 30 miles and that was all she wrote for that tranny...

I bet those ricers have NAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWS YO! better watch out...

Kid sounds pathetic with his grocery-getter. Just have your buddy kick his ass and try to get it on video...we love a good video here.

no break in time for the engine?

no break in time for the engine?

I second that.

why double clutch when racing?:screwy: if anything, he should be power shifting

For upshifting its pointless and slow, for downshifting not only does it make the down shift that much smoother, but it also allows for a much smoother Multi-gear down shift.... not to mention its simply being nice to your syncros. (Even in racing down shifts should be un-hurried any way) Fun thing about double clutching is that when you tie it in with heel toe when coming in to a turn, its like a little dance on the pedals :iceslolan

Isn't double-clutching also easier on your clutch as well?

For upshifting its pointless and slow, for downshifting not only does it make the down shift that much smoother, but it also allows for a much smoother Multi-gear down shift.... not to mention its simply being nice to your syncros. (Even in racing down shifts should be un-hurried any way) Fun thing about double clutching is that when you tie it in with heel toe when coming in to a turn, its like a little dance on the pedals :iceslolan
Well at least someone around here know how to double clutch propperly. You guys ever try to go from 5th to 3rd on a highway run? if you dont double clutch youll end up ripping your motormounts. not to mention it saves alot of life from your synchros.

that kid sounds like a moron. saddly another Honda driver giving Honda fans a bad name! :shakehead

EDIT: Rice(er), nice sig muffin!

The only thing I don't get about double-clutching is why go to neutral? Why not just hold the clutch in and rev it? Same effect, no?

you guys are missing the point, i dont care if he power shifts double quadroople overloop clutches, he's not gonna beat the "BIG V8'S"

unless its some old beat down piece of crap that can barely run

The only thing I don't get about double-clutching is why go to neutral? Why not just hold the clutch in and rev it? Same effect, no?

no not same affect, when you let the clutch out it engages the engine with the tranny, so the engine and the tranny are moving at the same speed. if the clutch is in and you rev it then the engine is going to be moving faster. i think thats how it works. maybe someone can explain it better.

kick his ass sea bass..........

The only thing I don't get about double-clutching is why go to neutral? Why not just hold the clutch in and rev it? Same effect, no?

If you only rev-match the down shift, as you described. all you are syncing is the engine RPMs to clutch RPM's. If you double clutch, and rev when the cars in nutural, you are syncing the Engine, the clutch and the imput shaft's RPMs to the output shaft's RPMs. meaning with a double clutch, you are doing most of the job of the syncros for them. (the syncros job is to match the imput shaft speed to the output shaft speed so you can swap gears)

If you only rev-match the down shift, as you described. all you are syncing is the engine RPMs to clutch RPM's. If you double clutch, and rev when the cars in nutural, you are syncing the Engine, the clutch and the imput shaft's RPMs to the output shaft's RPMs. meaning with a double clutch, you are doing most of the job of the syncros for them. (the syncros job is to match the imput shaft speed to the output shaft speed so you can swap gears)


The thing is with modern trannys that if you heel-toe without using the double clutch method you will still obtain a nice smooth down shift. This is the most important part, a smooth downshift. It's much more simple to not double clutch, although double clutching is overall more effective. Either way to do it works fine.

But now we're completely off the topic at hand. When are you supposed to race this turd?

^^^^^ with all that heel toe business it seems more like line dancing then driving...........lol

The thing is with modern trannys that if you heel-toe without using the double clutch method you will still obtain a nice smooth down shift. This is the most important part, a smooth downshift. It's much more simple to not double clutch, although double clutching is overall more effective. Either way to do it works fine.

But now we're completely off the topic at hand. When are you supposed to race this turd?

true, it works fine for a single gear down shift, but for a mutliple gear down shift double clutching is the way to go. (saves them synchros)

My buddy got a camera for Christmas so we'll use that. But on second thought maybe breaking in the engine in the car as well as on the stand would be better. So I guess it gets postponed till next weekend oh well the eBay junk should be here (tach,MSD 6T,speedometer) soon so we'll wait. The motor is finished and just needs to go in provided he can pay his bill ($1236).

!UPDATE!

I have now been challenged by the racers secret weapon. The car that no one wants to run with, the car that is so fast that it stomps everything, the car that is all JDM parts, the car that is a stock 240 auto that is primered with a spoiler. When I asked to be shown the car that was going to whoop my ass I literally busted out laughing and buckled over. Not because it's slow or anything but for the Silvia front end conversion kit he had on it. You know the cheesy one with the headlights and Silvia sticker, well the only problem is that it is a hatchback 240! He had a blank stare when I asked if he had ever played Initial D. When he said no I realized he had no idea what the difference between a Silvia and a 180 were and was unaware of the existence of a coupe 240. Anyway he says that he's gonna kick my ass now so we'll have to see.

I really dont understand people who say things like that, especially when they drive such slow cars

glad to see some others actually know what double clutching is and use it properly. For me and other 3/S owners, it is a good idea, as our synchros are notoriously weak.

Anyway, I'd say good luck on the race, but I doubt you'll need it. :biggrin:

this sounds like the westside story of high school street racing..........lol

this sounds like the westside story of high school street racing..........lol


It's like "days of our lives", except...street racing.

It's our own little soap opera :lol:

Stay tuned for next weeks thrilling episode!


I can't believe these kids are getting this bad when it comes to cars. I don't remember any of this bullshit when I was in highschool. Hell, I only remember hearing the term "vtec" being used once and that was because my buddy got a civic si. Also, not ONE vehicle in my school's parking lot had an aluminium wing/spoiler. Wtf is wrong with the new youth? Have they all been sucked into the f&f bullshit way of life? My god...

well back when I was in high school we all wanted to be ricers......but got buckets instead........ahhhhh the good old days...

well back when I was in high school we all wanted to be ricers......but got buckets instead........ahhhhh the good old days...

my bucket was cooler than yours :tongue:


but in all seriousness, i actually miss beating the piss out my old car. lol i love bein able to run shit over and not care.

^^^^^ yeah right my bucket had never ending fishing poles and gear in the back for a rainy day.............and even on a sunny day..........lol

my bucket had 90hp when it was new, had over 200k miles when i had it

oh yeah, oh yeah, my buckets alternator blew when I pushed one 10inch sub.....

oh yeah... well both the lines for my tranny fluid rusted out!

oh yeah...I sold it to a friend of mine and it broke down on him a few days later......

cant say i did that lol... we had to junk it after i beat it up with a hammer

I realise it is long time in coming but the kid finally put 1000 miles on the Cutlass the other day and decided that was enough and lined up with the 240 at The Box the local street drag stip. It was a great race and I wish I had video for you guys but I can't figure out my damn camera, but anyway the Cutlass passed the test with flying colors it laid waste to that primered 240 and did a huge burnout right in front of the rest the local "racers". But it didn't really solve the problem now all I hear "is that guy was cheating" and "he used NOS" but ohwell maybe someday these guys will leave me alone when they finally realise being a McDonald's cashier isn't really a good career move.

I hate when people can't admit to a loss. Sounds like your buddy did well though. How much did he beat him by?

Sweeeet.

Yeah, how bad was the gap anyway?

I guestimate about 5-6 car lengths but it was kind of hard to judge because I was directly behind both cars, made for a cool video though I really wish I could show you guys.