New Skyline R35 GTR engine

whilst i know that the "35" stands for the engine capacity in the new Skyline, instead of being next in line after R32, 33, 34, is it true that the 3.5 litre engine will be a version of the 3.5l V8 twin turbo from the R390 GT1 LeMans car?

i hope it is true!!!:devil:

No dice... It's a 3.5L V6; VQ-series, IIRC. Nissan isn't in the habit of being unpredictable these days. :(

damn. how cool would it have been to have the le mans engine in one of the best chassis' in the world

I think the V6 is for the Skyline models. The GTR (no longer supposed to be a Skyline, just a GTR) is supposed to have one of
a) the aforesaid R390 V8
b) the V8 from the Infiniti Q45
c) a twin turbo version of b)

I like c!

the smart money is on a VQ35DETT - which one of the JGTC teams debuted in their R34 GTR recently, making it a pretty sure thing that'll be the engine in the next GTR

Originally posted by moondog
the smart money is on a VQ35DETT - which one of the JGTC teams debuted in their R34 GTR recently, making it a pretty sure thing that'll be the engine in the next GTR

Seeing as the next Skyline/GTR is a while away from coming out, do you think that maybe Nissan or Nismo will offer the JGTC engine as an upgrade to the current Skyline?

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


Seeing as the next Skyline/GTR is a while away from coming out, do you think that maybe Nissan or Nismo will offer the JGTC engine as an upgrade to the current Skyline?

I doubt it, they just wern't designed like the other GTRs. The only AWD model designed for superior wet/snow traction :D

Any who, the '04 GTR will most likely feature a decendent of the Infinity V8. Atleast thats what most people "in the know" think... All I ask is good responce to forced induction :D :D

When Cadillac force-fed the Aurora v-8 used in the IRL it made approx. 450hp (the Cadillac is the Le Mans racecar). The n/a version made nearly 300 more horse that the turbo!?!? O.K. yes the indy motor turns more revs (follow me here I do have a point) but last week I was talking to one of the engineers who worked for Riley & Scott (builder of the Cadillac chassis) he told me that the motor could have easily made over 1000hp:eek: and probably could have reached 1200:D . My point is this if Nissan does put a v-8 (which will have similarities to their indy motor) in the new gtr, I think be it n/a or turbo the hp potential will make a lot of people feel giddy inside.:silly2:

well the little flat 6er can produce way in excess of 1000hp, so what will Nissan's bigger infinity V8 be able to do!!!!



btw i still am hopin that it will be the R390's V8!!!

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
btw i still am hopin that it will be the R390's V8!!!

I'm not. I can just see all the moronic V8 boys now: "huh huh huh ... y'see Cletus? Ya jest can't do with only 6 cylinduhs. Ya needs a big injun wit' a V8 if ya's gunna make any powuh. huh huh huh" They'll just all think they were right all along and that that proves how "superior" their jurassic V8s are to smaller high tech japanese turbocharged engines.

:(

The only "advantage" you could say a V8 has is that of packaging a large-displacement engine. So if you're gonna go for only 3.5 Litres, why not stick with a 6 - even an inline 6 (the best sort of engine). TVR do it, as do Aston Martin (and as did Jaguar until they became Ford :mad: ), and nobody complains about their engines.

I still say the ultimate engine for the new GTR (though it won't happen) would be a 3.5 litre twin turbocharged inline 6. Yeah baby!!!!






hmmmph. Raf is sad that won't happen. :(

Originally posted by moondog


I'm not. I can just see all the moronic V8 boys now: "huh huh huh ... y'see Cletus? Ya jest can't do with only 6 cylinduhs. Ya needs a big injun wit' a V8 if ya's gunna make any powuh. huh huh huh" They'll just all think they were right all along and that that proves how "superior" their jurassic V8s are to smaller high tech japanese turbocharged engines.

:(

The only "advantage" you could say a V8 has is that of packaging a large-displacement engine. So if you're gonna go for only 3.5 Litres, why not stick with a 6 - even an inline 6 (the best sort of engine). TVR do it, as do Aston Martin (and as did Jaguar until they became Ford :mad: ), and nobody complains about their engines.

I still say the ultimate engine for the new GTR (though it won't happen) would be a 3.5 litre twin turbocharged inline 6. Yeah baby!!!!






hmmmph. Raf is sad that won't happen. :(

Bingo!! I say "If it Ain't broke, Don't fix it!" The only issue with the RB was emissions... Now you can't tell me that they can't make the RB26 meet emissions!? Please... But, sense Nissan apparently think's it's broke... Lets hope for the best... An easy RB swap! :silly2:

I think that the VQ is so attractive to Nissan (read: Renault) because they're making so many of them. I mean look at all the cars they're going in: Altima, Maxima, 350Z, G35, Quest; and remember that the QR25 is based on the same modular block. The VZ-series V8s are also based on this. So a VQ or VZ would be the cheapest engines for them to produce.

I hope it's a nice motor, because I'm sure a lot of people will be selling them when they rip it out to put in the RB26... :smoker2:

Originally posted by moondog


I'm not. I can just see all the moronic V8 boys now: "huh huh huh ... y'see Cletus? Ya jest can't do with only 6 cylinduhs. Ya needs a big injun wit' a V8 if ya's gunna make any powuh. huh huh huh" They'll just all think they were right all along and that that proves how "superior" their jurassic V8s are to smaller high tech japanese turbocharged engines.

:(

The only "advantage" you could say a V8 has is that of packaging a large-displacement engine. So if you're gonna go for only 3.5 Litres, why not stick with a 6 - even an inline 6 (the best sort of engine). TVR do it, as do Aston Martin (and as did Jaguar until they became Ford :mad: ), and nobody complains about their engines.

I still say the ultimate engine for the new GTR (though it won't happen) would be a 3.5 litre twin turbocharged inline 6. Yeah baby!!!!






hmmmph. Raf is sad that won't happen. :(

dont get me wrong, i arent bothered if its a V8, V12, straight 6 or woteva. i just think that the R390 had a brilliant engine. and to be able to say your car uses a LeMan car's engine can hardly be bad for marketing purposes

You'll see why Nissan wants to use either the VQ V6 or the VK V8.

The VQ already has a racing history, granted it's in normally aspirated form. There is a Formula racing series in Europe using the VQ30DE, and they are getting over 400hp normally aspirated. The VQ is lighter than the RB, and is shorter in length, meaning that a lot of weight can be saved. Weight was always a problem with the GT-R. Like another poster said, the VQ is already in extensive use, and is doing well out on the market.

The VQ is also versatile enough to be used for turbocharging. In Japan, the Nissan Stagea wagon uses a VQ25DET, and already has the same power rating as the stock RB26DETT. That particular VQ has lower compression pistons than the USDM models because it is turbocharged. However, even with the higher ratio, a Maxima owner with a VQ30DE made over 350 whp at only 9.3psi. That's close to 400hp at the flywheel, and he only had 190hp stock. Imagine turbocharging the VQ35DE, which starts out with 65hp more!

Nissan definitely won't be using the VRH35L V8 found in the R390. It is a high-strung, race-only engine, with a magnesium head. This engine would be much too impractical and expensive for Nissan to produce, not to mention for customers to own. How about settling for saying that your car has a Formula racing engine?;)

Personally, I'm hoping for a form of the VK V8, but I won't be terribly disappointed with a VQ. I already own a car with one, and it's a very sweet engine.

Originally posted by VQuick
You'll see why Nissan wants to use either the VQ V6 or the VK V8.

The VQ already has a racing history, granted it's in normally aspirated form. There is a Formula racing series in Europe using the VQ30DE, and they are getting over 400hp normally aspirated. The VQ is lighter than the RB, and is shorter in length, meaning that a lot of weight can be saved. Weight was always a problem with the GT-R. Like another poster said, the VQ is already in extensive use, and is doing well out on the market.

The VQ is also versatile enough to be used for turbocharging. In Japan, the Nissan Stagea wagon uses a VQ25DET, and already has the same power rating as the stock RB26DETT. That particular VQ has lower compression pistons than the USDM models because it is turbocharged. However, even with the higher ratio, a Maxima owner with a VQ30DE made over 350 whp at only 9.3psi. That's close to 400hp at the flywheel, and he only had 190hp stock. Imagine turbocharging the VQ35DE, which starts out with 65hp more!

Nissan definitely won't be using the VRH35L V8 found in the R390. It is a high-strung, race-only engine, with a magnesium head. This engine would be much too impractical and expensive for Nissan to produce, not to mention for customers to own. How about settling for saying that your car has a Formula racing engine?;)

Personally, I'm hoping for a form of the VK V8, but I won't be terribly disappointed with a VQ. I already own a car with one, and it's a very sweet engine.

u seem to know about the new engine, so u know if Nissan will stick to the 276hp agreement with it?

And of course Nissan has just been listing power at 276hp. The R34 was making closer to 320hp, according to insiders. The upcoming Toyota 4000GT will definitely exceed the agreed limit too, with around 400hp.
Another thing to consider is that the normally aspirated VQ35DE in the 350Z already makes 287hp, according to Car and Driver. If you ask me, the only way for the GT-R to go is up.
Does that help any?

yep that helps thanks. is the 4000gt the new supra?

I've heard a lot of rumors. An old one was that the replacement would be a smaller, lighter car based on the Altezza/IS300 chassis. I don't know what the engine would have been.
The 4000GT will be based on a larger platform, and will probably be close in size to the previous JZA80 Supra. The engine is supposed to be a 4L verson of the Lexus V8 with around 400hp.
The next NSX will have something similar too. And I guess it'll finally have some torque. The Maxima makes more torque than the current NSX, for crying out loud.
It would be great if the GT-R got a version of the VK. There's been some speculation at the Freshalloy forum about a turbrocharged 3.5L version(like the CART engine) for better rev capability. It would really make for some good competition.

Another thing I forgot to mention before: Nissan has already tested the VQ35DETT in some of its JGTCC racing R34s. The VQ30DETT is about half the length of the RB26 so it can just about sit behind the front wheels. Essentially, this makes the R34 a mid-engine car, improving it's balance and handling. Because of the displacement increase, you also get a lot more torque.
But I know you just want to hear about the power, huh?;) At just 4000rpm, the engines were making over 480hp and 540+lb-ft of torque. Heck, a Viper only makes 490lb-ft, and it has a V10. Pretty nice, eh?

Originally posted by VQuick

It would be great if the GT-R got a version of the VK. There's been some speculation at the Freshalloy forum about a turbrocharged 3.5L version(like the CART engine) for better rev capability. It would really make for some good competition.

Another thing I forgot to mention before: Nissan has already tested the VQ35DETT in some of its JGTCC racing R34s. The VQ30DETT is about half the length of the RB26 so it can just about sit behind the front wheels. Essentially, this makes the R34 a mid-engine car, improving it's balance and handling. Because of the displacement increase, you also get a lot more torque.
But I know you just want to hear about the power, huh?;) At just 4000rpm, the engines were making over 480hp and 540+lb-ft of torque. Heck, a Viper only makes 490lb-ft, and it has a V10. Pretty nice, eh?

My money is on a decendent of the Q45 V8, perhaps it's just wishfull thinking though. About the VQ, thats interesting that it can sit behind the front wheels, any idea what the weight distrib is on those cars?

But I'm sure it's much better than with the RB. Think about it: You've got a lighter, shorter engine, and it's moved farther back in the engine bay. The engine bay(and the entire front end) on the next GT-R can be shorter than the R34's, and use less building material for the chassis.
So guess what? You end up not only saving weight from the lighter powerplant, but from a shorter and lighter front end. Additionally, the FM platform is already like a mid-engined car, so the weight distribution will be nearly perfect.
The problem with the previous GT-Rs was that they were too front-heavy. That's what made them understeer sometimes.

Originally posted by VQuick
But I'm sure it's much better than with the RB. Think about it: You've got a lighter, shorter engine, and it's moved farther back in the engine bay. The engine bay(and the entire front end) on the next GT-R can be shorter than the R34's, and use less building material for the chassis.
So guess what? You end up not only saving weight from the lighter powerplant, but from a shorter and lighter front end. Additionally, the FM platform is already like a mid-engined car, so the weight distribution will be nearly perfect.
The problem with the previous GT-Rs was that they were too front-heavy. That's what made them understeer sometimes.

:mad: You do make an excelent point... The more I think about it the more I can adjust to the idea of a GTR without an RB. I suppose good things can only last for so long untill they are replaced with somthing better. Lets just hope the VQ is better :D From what I can gather the rest of the car seems to be in order, damn... now were to find some money :D

just been lookin at a few japanese car sites, and the general consensus is that the new GTR will have one of the following 3 engines:

1) detuned R390 GT1 twin turbo V8 (this is less likely of the 3)
2) tuned version of 350Z's V6 twin turbo (in excess of 450hp)
3) supercharged 3.0 V6 (to meet emissions)

a supercharged engine has been spotted in a Nissan Stagea. The Stagea has always ran the same drivetrain as the GTRs. the Stagea has been thought of in Japan as a GTR station wagon. so the people in the know think that Nissan may be testing their new GTR in a Stagea bodyshell.

more info on this on www.apexjapan.com

There is a new thread at FreshAlloy.com with a Japanese magazine talking about what could be the production GT-R. From the scanned magazine cover, it looks a lot like a mix of the G35 coupe's styling mixed with the GT-R concept.
Now for the bad news. The engine shown in the car was the supercharged VQ30DE. IMHO, that doesn't really look like a step in the right direction from a performance standpoint. Heck, the VQ30DE-powered Maximas with an aftermarket supercharger were only getting around 280-300whp at the most. That's good for a Maxima, but not for the GT-R. The tunability won't be very good, either. The only hope is that the compression ratio is lowered to 9:1 like the turbo factory VQs.

I'm hoping that the rumors about the U.S. and Japanese markets having different engines are true. If we can't get a turbocharged engine at all, it'd be nice to at least get a supercharged VQ35DE.

Hmmm... the GT-R powered by a VQ35DER? Never even crossed my mind. Maybe someone at Renault just discovered cocaine.

In all seriousness, the supercharged powerplant could be more powerful than we think. Saab's prototype variable-compression engine uses a supercharger that somehow cranks out 40 psi! If Nissan is developing anything like this, then screw the turbo. Remember, that's more than most ball bearing turbos deliver with NO LAG. Of course, Nissan may just stick us with an unimpressive Roots blower and tell us to get over it. Who knows.

One thing to remember about superchargers: you can change out pulleys in order to get more boost. This will of course reduce the lifespan of the s/c, but then again, when an s/c fails it doesn't trash your engine like a shredded turbo.

I like the Stagea. Compared to a Protege 5, it's beautiful. And I like the VQ25DET. I wonder how well it responded to the s/c.

Inevitably, I think that the search for real power is going to lead down a familiar road: swapping in an RB26. Only time will tell.

Originally posted by Holyterror
Of course, Nissan may just stick us with an unimpressive Roots blower and tell us to get over it.

That's exactly what I'm worried about. The supercharged Maximas had a more efficient Centrifugal supercharger, and they are making in the 300whp range with 12psi.
With a Roots blower, the efficiency would be even worse. You'd need a pretty big blower to reach 12psi too. Who knows if it'd even fit in the engine bay? There wasn't room in the Maxima's engine bay for sure.

I guess I'm just stuck on turbos because of the good results with the factory applications.:shrugs shoulders:

Originally posted by VQuick


That's exactly what I'm worried about. The supercharged Maximas had a more efficient Centrifugal supercharger, and they are making in the 300whp range with 12psi.
With a Roots blower, the efficiency would be even worse. You'd need a pretty big blower to reach 12psi too. Who knows if it'd even fit in the engine bay? There wasn't room in the Maxima's engine bay for sure.

I guess I'm just stuck on turbos because of the good results with the factory applications.:shrugs shoulders:

Well, if it is going to be a VQ, I suppose you can expect good results from turbocharging... It'll just cost more money what with the new parts you need to get compression and valve timing inline :( I think I'm going to go look at some high HP Zs to bolster my convidence in the engine :D

What new parts are you talking about? If you're talking about lower compression pistons for the VQ30DE, you can get the JDM pistons for your U.S. market engine. Some of the Maxima guys are trying to do this, so that they can lower their ratio from 10:1 to 9:1. That will let them use more boost.
As for the valve timing, it shouldn't be a big deal with the VTC VQs. Since the timing changes are continuous, you probably won't have the problem that the VTEC Hondas did with the radically different profiles interfering with boost. They would either have the boost optimized for the small lobe, and have lame performance on VTEC, or would have the boost set to work best with the big lobe, and have bad performance off of VTEC.

Is this the kind of thing you were getting at?

but will these engines have the same tuning potential as the RB26dett. stock maybe, but can you get higher power out of a VQ as easy as you can out of an RB?:flash:

You're not going to be able to get 1,000+hp out of the aluminum block, open-deck VQ like you will out of the iron block, closed-deck RB. The VQ still shouldn't be bad to work on, though. Otherwise, Blitz probably wouldn't even bother messing with the R35 Skyline.

However, the point in switching to the VQ is that it is a better balanced engine. The weight and dimensions of the VQ are smaller than the RB, so that a lot of weight can be saved. With the previous GT-Rs constantly gaining weight, the tuners had to increase power to make up for it. Using the VQ, you won't have to make so much power to go fast. Less weight also means you can(technically) use smaller brakes to slow you down. Less weight to bring to a stop, see? The lighter weight from using the VQ will also translate to better handling, something you can't improve by just turning up the boost.

The next GT-R will probably be something like the new 350Z. It won't be a total dominator, but it will be a great all-rounder car.

Originally posted by VQuick
What new parts are you talking about? If you're talking about lower compression pistons for the VQ30DE, you can get the JDM pistons for your U.S. market engine. Some of the Maxima guys are trying to do this, so that they can lower their ratio from 10:1 to 9:1. That will let them use more boost.
As for the valve timing, it shouldn't be a big deal with the VTC VQs. Since the timing changes are continuous, you probably won't have the problem that the VTEC Hondas did with the radically different profiles interfering with boost. They would either have the boost optimized for the small lobe, and have lame performance on VTEC, or would have the boost set to work best with the big lobe, and have bad performance off of VTEC.

Is this the kind of thing you were getting at?

Yea thats the direction I was going, but I forgot that they had VVT, or VTC I suppose they like to call it :D

VTC is the basic cam-phasing method that everybody is using; Nissan has been keeping neo-VVL in Japan so far. VVL is identical to VTEC except that there is a delay between the intake and exhaust cam changeovers to smooth out the transition. It seems like Nissan is trying to replace VVL with variable capacity mufflers and possibly variable intake manifolds. This reduces valvetrain complexity and increases reliability. It also leaves less weight on the valvetrain, which seems to be a big thing for Nissan now (check the hollow cams and flyweight valve springs).

The fattening of the GT-R didn't have much to do with the engine. Granted, the RB26 is heavy, but no aluminum engine is going to stomach 1000 horsepower so easily. Weight is very important in terms of handling, but straightline performance is more important in this country. In that arena, the RB26 still wins, because its output more than makes up for the extra bulk. I think the VQ has four basic advantages over the RB: cost, weight, packaging, and emissions. The RB beats the VQ in: durability, power, efficiency, and aftermarket. The latter will probably change in the coming months, with so many Nissans sharing the powerplant.

everyone has good ideas and points. The fact that to own and operate a car is so expensive in Japan and that cars/tags are classified by displacement and size weight, etc, it's very likely we'll see the V6+aspiration in Japan, and possibly the V8 in foreign markets. Additionally, though I've read various scoop mags jump from turbo to supercharger guesses, the Japanese market is solid turbo minded. Tuners here rarely do any real tuning of supercharged cars. And the aftermarket is a driving factor in many Japanese car enthusiasts" decision on car buying.

Just a few thoughts. Either way, it's about time--he possibility of this legend being available in full production overseas on mass scale is awesome.

I have no idea why, though. Might be because they want lower emissions or they just want to be different. I remembered seeing their supercharged Toyota V6 in a magazine.
With supercharging, it's really hard to get the top end power they like so much over in Japan. A lot of the tuner cars over there have turbos(duh), and the lag lasts for something like 10 seconds. Suddenly, the turbo kicks in, and you get slammed back in your seat. Less than two seconds later, you have to shift again, and the lag returns.
I know I'm exaggerating what the cars are really like, but most of them do have really narrow powerbands like that.

At the moment Nismo is conducting evaluations with six GT-R test mules using chassis underpinnings from the V35 skyline coupe at the Renault test facility in France. The engines under evaluation are a V8, the VQ series V6 and the RB series engine stroked to 2.8 litres. Apparently all of these engines are being tested in normally aspirated and turbocharged forms. Unfortunately it seems that the VQ is only good for 400 kw (538 hp) before the block cracks.

I guess it's better than one of us finding out, huh?:p That's pretty good, considering the VQ is just an aluminum block, open deck V6. It makes about 410hp in normally aspirated racing form, but that's because it was the 3-liter version. Normally aspirated engines tend to be capable of less because they're being pushed so hard, too. Maybe Nissan could get more power with a closed deck version.
Still, I'd like to see what a VK-series V8 is capable of. I bet it can handle at least 600hp.

Everyone speculates which is fine, but be realistic Nissan is putting their VQ35 in "everything" What really makes anyone feel that they would stray so far away and use something like their GT1 Le Mans engine or a infinity V8 (although I can see the V8 as a possibility because it is available and already being produce for the Q)

Everyone complains about how much Motorex is charging for old Skylines, but what do you think it will cost you to buy a NEW Skyline with a Le Mans derived engine or a Q45 engine???? Get a grip. If anyone wants to be able to affored a new GTR than you ALL better pray for a VQ35 turbo engine (which still may be pricey)

everyone specualtes because they hear little bits on info here and there of people who DO know. the GT1 engine i heard about would be very loosely based on the the proper one, and would have nothing like the magnesium head found on the real one. as for the Infinity its American, i am not, so i dont have a damn clue about that. i think the most likely engines are gonna be inline 6 TT or inline 6 supercharged, hopefully the former.

Nothing wrong with speculation, but again eveyone should be realistic. I honestly enjoy all the "clues" that are offered. As far as information posted by people who are "in the know"? Who on this board really does know? If someone did than we would not be having this on going discussion.

Now I am sure that Nissan is testing and keeping their options open however, be realistic who is going to be able to afford a GTR that is so "tuned to the tits". If 1993-1997 Supras, 3000GT's, and RX7's etc. were priced at 40,000USD back then what do you think a V8 or GT1 based Nissan is going to cost?

You can make the arguement that there are people who can and will afford it and hence will purchase one. But be honest if the majority of us could do so, wouldn't we all be on the Acura NSX or Dodge Viper message board right now??????

i mean magazines know little bits of info, i agree most people on here are just specualting what they have read. but the magazines do have many contacts within companys

To think that Nissan might use a V8 for the GT-R...At least in the U.S. market anyway. You could say they're usig the VK for everything, too. The Q45 already has it. The M45 sport sedan will have it when it comes out this fall. So will the FX45 crossover sport ute. There's even supposed to be a Nissan full size pickup that will use this engine. The VK won't be so exclusive anymore. If they're already making a bunch of VKs for these vehicles, why not a few more for the GT-R?

A lot of Nissans use some variation of the VQ's technology. Heck, even Renault is using VQs now. There's the VQ V6, VK V8, and QR I4. This cuts down on costs for Nissan because they have to use fewer different engines. Nissan is already saving a lot of money with this new engine lineup, so they can probably afford to splurge on the GT-R.

One, where do you live? I live in Japan. If you live in the states, an R34 GTR will run you about $80,000-$100,00. If you live in japan it will cost anywhere from $20,000-$65,000 depending on whether it is new or used. R35 is just the model of the car, not the engine. All of the GTR's have an RB26, four cylinder, twin turbo, 280bhp engine without modification. There is one R34 GTR engine in Japan that was modified to an RB30. RB is your liters. I had owned an R33 GTR paying only $200 for it from a marine going back to the states. He couldn't sell it in time to go back. I then threw another $7000 dollars into it making it sit around 650BHP. It was totaled by one of my friends. I currently own a 1989 2+2 300zx. It is to heavy though weighing in at around 1600kilos. Oh well, life sucks. If you have any questions about any type of GTR fell free to ask me. If you would like to bring a GTR back to the states you will have to pay motor x an arm and a leg. Your best bet to owning a GTR is to learn how to speak Japanese and live in Japan.

in the future i am thinking of going over to japan, buying a Skyline (R34), coming home whilst leaving it to a Japanese tuner (lets face it they are the only ones who can do them properly) to do up, and then going back when it is finished and have it shipped back with me. as you're from Japan do you think this would be a cheap option? im from England btw not the US.

Originally posted by fbarbara
One, where do you live? I live in Japan. If you live in the states, an R34 GTR will run you about $80,000-$100,00. If you live in japan it will cost anywhere from $20,000-$65,000 depending on whether it is new or used. R35 is just the model of the car, not the engine. All of the GTR's have an RB26, four cylinder, twin turbo, 280bhp engine without modification. There is one R34 GTR engine in Japan that was modified to an RB30. RB is your liters. I had owned an R33 GTR paying only $200 for it from a marine going back to the states. He couldn't sell it in time to go back. I then threw another $7000 dollars into it making it sit around 650BHP. It was totaled by one of my friends. I currently own a 1989 2+2 300zx. It is to heavy though weighing in at around 1600kilos. Oh well, life sucks. If you have any questions about any type of GTR fell free to ask me. If you would like to bring a GTR back to the states you will have to pay motor x an arm and a leg. Your best bet to owning a GTR is to learn how to speak Japanese and live in Japan.

What?....

Ok, first of all, RB26DETT. An inline six twin turbo that is factory rated at 276hp. Dyno tests say otherwise. Second of all, there are lots of RB30s out there in various states, RB30E, RB30DE, RB30DET...

I don't mean to jump your shit but please, comming into an engine discussion and saying the RB26 is a 4cyl?