No pulley swap for you!!!!!!
01L2Cobra
01-23-2006, 10:17 AM
Sorry bad Seinfeld joke but a pulley swap on the GT500 can't be done. Here are the latest pics of the engine.
No room for upper to be smaller. The snout is nearly the full dia of the pulley ID.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/attachments/2007-shelby-cobra-gt500/20289-good-and-bad-news-about-the-shelby-motor-pics-pulley.jpg?d=1137811163
No Room for Lower to be bigger. There is a sensor boss formed in the timing chain cover less than 3/8" from the pulley lip.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/attachments/2007-shelby-cobra-gt500/20290-good-and-bad-news-about-the-shelby-motor-pics-no-lowe2r.jpg?d=1137811163
No room for upper to be smaller. The snout is nearly the full dia of the pulley ID.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/attachments/2007-shelby-cobra-gt500/20289-good-and-bad-news-about-the-shelby-motor-pics-pulley.jpg?d=1137811163
No Room for Lower to be bigger. There is a sensor boss formed in the timing chain cover less than 3/8" from the pulley lip.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/attachments/2007-shelby-cobra-gt500/20290-good-and-bad-news-about-the-shelby-motor-pics-no-lowe2r.jpg?d=1137811163
speedfreak
01-23-2006, 04:38 PM
Just have to get a bigger blower, I guess. :grinyes:
01L2Cobra
01-23-2006, 04:48 PM
Yep that's the only way to get more boost. The GT500 is going to be far more harder to mod than the 03/04 Cobra was and cost more money in the end. So it looks like the 03/04 Cobras are still the best bang for the buck.
speedfreak
01-23-2006, 04:55 PM
I dont really see it as a big problem unless 475hp actually isnt enough for a street car :rolleyes:. Ford has this (nice) habit of severely underrating the bhp on this kind of thing, so it will probably have ~450+ at the wheels.
Will there be enough room under the hood for a turbo?
Will there be enough room under the hood for a turbo?
TheStang00
01-24-2006, 12:06 AM
I dont really see it as a big problem unless 475hp actually isnt enough for a street car :rolleyes:. Ford has this (nice) habit of severely underrating the bhp on this kind of thing, so it will probably have ~450+ at the wheels.
he does bring up a good point, after the 99 cobra everything has been underrated. im pretty sure you saw what the ford gt did on a mustang dyno right. in reality it has slightly more than 600bhp
he does bring up a good point, after the 99 cobra everything has been underrated. im pretty sure you saw what the ford gt did on a mustang dyno right. in reality it has slightly more than 600bhp
speedfreak
01-24-2006, 12:17 PM
The GT is rated at 550 flywheel, right? Then it made someting like that on a chassis dyno. :D
01L2Cobra
01-24-2006, 12:50 PM
The GT500 will not hit 450rwhp. They may hit 435rwp but that is if they have 500 at the crank.
SVTcobra306
01-24-2006, 06:40 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised to see 450 at the wheels. I really wouldn't be surprised to see them planting 500 on the ground with bolt-ons and tuning....
Plus, there's ways around EVERYTHING! Hot rodders will figure it out. That's what we do. Period. In 1986 the dawn of EFI on the 5.0 engine was deemed "the end of hot rodding". Look where we are today......
Plus, there's ways around EVERYTHING! Hot rodders will figure it out. That's what we do. Period. In 1986 the dawn of EFI on the 5.0 engine was deemed "the end of hot rodding". Look where we are today......
Whathits14
01-26-2006, 10:39 PM
I saw an article comparing the viper to the ford gt and new z06, and they did dyno tests on all three of them to see how much horsepower they really made. The ford gt was only overrated by like ~2% of what they actually clamied (BHP VS WHP!!!), whereas the viper and vette had more loss...I think the ford made about 535 to the WHEELS. From a 550 bhp claim, that is amazing!
Personally I would take an 03 any day over the gt500....it just doesn't seem right, kinda off beat like the 02 cobra r's. Hell, 03s made over 350 to the WHEELS and with JUST a K&N FIPK they were making in WHP what ford claimed they made stock in BHP. Plus, you can get a good used cobra for under well 20k (buddy of mine got his for 15k with 20k miles on it!), whereas the new gt500 is upwards of 45k (not sure of the exact price, but that sounds about right).
Personally I would take an 03 any day over the gt500....it just doesn't seem right, kinda off beat like the 02 cobra r's. Hell, 03s made over 350 to the WHEELS and with JUST a K&N FIPK they were making in WHP what ford claimed they made stock in BHP. Plus, you can get a good used cobra for under well 20k (buddy of mine got his for 15k with 20k miles on it!), whereas the new gt500 is upwards of 45k (not sure of the exact price, but that sounds about right).
TheStang00
01-27-2006, 12:47 AM
^ that article you saw also said the ford gt probably had something more like 600hp, i know the one.
cobra R was 2000, not 02.
i thought the gt500 was about 40k, slightly more maybe. not 45
cobra R was 2000, not 02.
i thought the gt500 was about 40k, slightly more maybe. not 45
01L2Cobra
01-27-2006, 01:24 AM
its $45+ for the vert but that is before the $10K dealer mark up
Yep thats right atleast $10K over MSRP here read a letter from a dealer to a guy on the waiting list.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251183
Yep thats right atleast $10K over MSRP here read a letter from a dealer to a guy on the waiting list.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251183
TheStang00
01-27-2006, 01:32 AM
ehh well i wouldnt buy a vert anyway. seriously why would you, less performance and more money. its not worth it. the mark up will end soon enough though. besides a lot of people that can afford that car brand new can probably easily handle a 10k mark up.
01L2Cobra
01-27-2006, 09:13 AM
You do know there will be only 7K-14K total over a minimum 2 years. I don’t see the dealer screw job ending especially since all dealers get them now and SVT dealers are a thing of the past. 7 is the max number I have ever heard of one dealer getting so far and the average is 2.
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