Has anyone 5.8l engine
radioman2002
01-22-2006, 08:59 PM
I have a pair of 5.8l PD engines, and I was thinking of using one in a Mustang project. Has anyone or does anyone know if I can take the short block 5.8l and mate it to the heads and intake from the 5.0l, or better yet are there parts out there to make the 5.8l fuel injected. Obviously the computer would have to be recalibrated, but the idea of a 5.8l 88-91 fox body intriques me.
speedfreak
01-23-2006, 04:47 PM
What do you mean by "PD" engine?
Ford put EFI 351Ws in vans and trucks, there is no mystery to doing it. FRPP has a Cobra lower intake for 351Ws. Do an online search for 351W Mustang swaps.
Ford put EFI 351Ws in vans and trucks, there is no mystery to doing it. FRPP has a Cobra lower intake for 351Ws. Do an online search for 351W Mustang swaps.
351wStang
01-23-2006, 06:07 PM
I have all the efi stuff off of my 351w/5.8l. If you need heads/intakes ect lemme know and I'll see what I can dig up. But yes you can bolt 302 heads onto a 351w. But, you will need a different lower intake because the 5.8l have about a 1" taller deck height than the 5.0.
skooli
02-02-2006, 10:31 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by PD, but head swaps are the same for 302s and 351s. I'm in the process of building a 351w out of a '94 F150 for my fastback. I've got Edelbrock Performer RPM heads (pt# 60224) and they are interchangeable with the 5.0. Cams are a different story. Intakes are also a different story, but Ford Racing, Edelbrock, Trick Flow, they all make 351w intakes. As for fuel injection, if you can't find a system out of truck, Edelbrock, Holley, and a few others make plug and play kits that use a throttle body and carburetion style air cleaners. Try Summitt Racing or Edelbrock's website for more info.
351wStang
02-02-2006, 11:59 PM
Cams are a different story.
What do you mean? 302/351w cams are interchangeable. Its not uncommon for 5.0HO cams to be used in 351w's. You just have to change the firing order of your plug wires.
What do you mean? 302/351w cams are interchangeable. Its not uncommon for 5.0HO cams to be used in 351w's. You just have to change the firing order of your plug wires.
speedfreak
02-03-2006, 01:30 AM
The 5.0HO firing order is actually a little better also since it eliminates any possibility of crossfiring between plug wires. I think it might be between #7 and 8.
Also, you cannot simple bolt 302 heads onto a 351W. 351Ws have 1/2" head bolts whereas 302s have smaller 7/16" bolts. The 302 heads have to have the bolts holes drilled out. If you want to put 351W heads on a 302(or nearly any aftermarket head meant to fit both engines), you'll need either stepped washers or stepped bolts for best alignment.
Also, you cannot simple bolt 302 heads onto a 351W. 351Ws have 1/2" head bolts whereas 302s have smaller 7/16" bolts. The 302 heads have to have the bolts holes drilled out. If you want to put 351W heads on a 302(or nearly any aftermarket head meant to fit both engines), you'll need either stepped washers or stepped bolts for best alignment.
AltecZX2
02-03-2006, 01:32 AM
PD = Police Department?
351wStang
02-03-2006, 08:11 AM
What you say is true speedfreak. The 5.0HO firing order 13726548 is much more desireable for performance. Also it is more common to put 351w heads on 302's than visa versa. The bolts for the swap are sold daily.
skooli
02-08-2006, 09:13 PM
What do you mean? 302/351w cams are interchangeable. Its not uncommon for 5.0HO cams to be used in 351w's. You just have to change the firing order of your plug wires.
I apologize for the brain fart. You are correct. The cams are interchangeable.
I apologize for the brain fart. You are correct. The cams are interchangeable.
AltecZX2
02-09-2006, 02:10 PM
I know a guy w/ a 351 in a 88 stang.
speedfreak
02-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Isnt that nice. :gives:
351wStang
02-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Oh ya well I know a guy thats about to have a boosted 351w in a '87!
:lol:
Sorry, had to be a smartass...
:lol:
Sorry, had to be a smartass...
AltecZX2
02-09-2006, 08:49 PM
he was asking abot putting a 5.8 in a 88-91 302.....i simply stated that i know of a guy with that swap....no need to be a dick.
speedfreak
02-09-2006, 11:49 PM
There are people that have put big block Chevies in Ford Pintos. Simply saying "I know a guy with a BBC in a Pinto" gives no details on what was involved, what it cost, the parts needed, how difficult it was, or if the swap even functioned afterward. Therefore, it doesnt contribute anything.
AltecZX2
02-10-2006, 12:46 AM
and neither did your 2 posts.......were you BORN with a dick in your ass?
or are you just VERY anal?
or are you just VERY anal?
speedfreak
02-10-2006, 12:45 PM
Uh-oh, Mr. Insecure Teenager has resorted to vulgarity and personal attacks.
FORMERLY: zx2srdotnet(1,380 posts)
Were any of those helpful, or were they all like your last three posts? If you bother to tell us how many posts you supposedly used to have, why did you change user names? Was it banned?
Gee, does this explain something?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/65ShelbyClone/asshole.jpg
FORMERLY: zx2srdotnet(1,380 posts)
Were any of those helpful, or were they all like your last three posts? If you bother to tell us how many posts you supposedly used to have, why did you change user names? Was it banned?
Gee, does this explain something?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/65ShelbyClone/asshole.jpg
AltecZX2
02-10-2006, 01:34 PM
We have already covered this in a thread...I had a name change.
I ASKED FOR IT TO BE BANNED.
Don't talk shit till you know shit.
I ASKED FOR IT TO BE BANNED.
Don't talk shit till you know shit.
speedfreak
02-10-2006, 02:09 PM
I ASKED FOR IT TO BE BANNED.
Perhaps you can find that thread for me. I did four different searches with both of your usernames, went through all the results, and saw nothing supportng your claim. I'm not calling you a liar, not yet anyway. This can continue in PMs if you prefer. At this rate the thread will most definitely get locked.
Don't talk shit till you know shit.
Heed your own advice.
Perhaps you can find that thread for me. I did four different searches with both of your usernames, went through all the results, and saw nothing supportng your claim. I'm not calling you a liar, not yet anyway. This can continue in PMs if you prefer. At this rate the thread will most definitely get locked.
Don't talk shit till you know shit.
Heed your own advice.
AltecZX2
02-10-2006, 03:22 PM
Why would I make a thread? I talked to a MOD in PM about it.
Go ahead and as GTstang.
wait for it.....
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wait for it.....
OWNED!
Go ahead and as GTstang.
wait for it.....
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wait for it.....
OWNED!
pre98zetec
02-10-2006, 03:27 PM
sometimes people just need to mind their own buisness, in this case.. that statement is the truth :)
speedfreak
02-10-2006, 05:22 PM
Why would I make a thread? I talked to a MOD in PM about it.
Because of this you freaking genius:
We have already covered this in a thread...I had a name change.
OWNED!
I think you have backward there, Boy George...
sometimes people just need to mind their own buisness.
Which one of us are you talking to?
Because of this you freaking genius:
We have already covered this in a thread...I had a name change.
OWNED!
I think you have backward there, Boy George...
sometimes people just need to mind their own buisness.
Which one of us are you talking to?
AltecZX2
02-10-2006, 05:27 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=507181&highlight=banned
posts 14 and 15
Didnt do to good a search did you? it was the 2nd return when searching for 'banned' in the Ford section.
Now stop trying to argue...it's just sad.
posts 14 and 15
Didnt do to good a search did you? it was the 2nd return when searching for 'banned' in the Ford section.
Now stop trying to argue...it's just sad.
speedfreak
02-10-2006, 08:37 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=507181&highlight=banned
posts 14 and 15
Alright, close enough. Neither of us can do any better on that, so I'll drop it.
Didnt do to good a search did you? it was the 2nd return when searching for 'banned' in the Ford section.
You're jready to just keep going, aren't you? You said thread, not posts. I looked at threads, not all 1380 of your worthless thought fragments. Apparently you can't even distiguish between what you mean and what you say.
Now stop trying to argue...it's just sad.
Look long and hard at your own posts and then tell me that again.
I think I'm just about finished with this whole thing. You can have the last word since it wont matter if I dont respond. I do have one question; how old are you, truthfully? I wont reply, but I will check back for the answer. .
posts 14 and 15
Alright, close enough. Neither of us can do any better on that, so I'll drop it.
Didnt do to good a search did you? it was the 2nd return when searching for 'banned' in the Ford section.
You're jready to just keep going, aren't you? You said thread, not posts. I looked at threads, not all 1380 of your worthless thought fragments. Apparently you can't even distiguish between what you mean and what you say.
Now stop trying to argue...it's just sad.
Look long and hard at your own posts and then tell me that again.
I think I'm just about finished with this whole thing. You can have the last word since it wont matter if I dont respond. I do have one question; how old are you, truthfully? I wont reply, but I will check back for the answer. .
AltecZX2
02-10-2006, 08:44 PM
"We have already covered this in a thread"
I never said the thread was devoted to the topic.
23 - not that it matters.
You start in by being insulting for NO reason...then start making false assumptions.....you act like your 15.
You were wrong...there is nothing more to it then that. Christ.
I never said the thread was devoted to the topic.
23 - not that it matters.
You start in by being insulting for NO reason...then start making false assumptions.....you act like your 15.
You were wrong...there is nothing more to it then that. Christ.
TheStang00
02-10-2006, 09:20 PM
There are people that have put big block Chevies in Ford Pintos. Simply saying "I know a guy with a BBC in a Pinto" gives no details on what was involved, what it cost, the parts needed, how difficult it was, or if the swap even functioned afterward. Therefore, it doesnt contribute anything.
sorry altec, nothing against you, but this post^^
did not warrant this response
and neither did your 2 posts.......were you BORN with a dick in your ass?
or are you just VERY anal?
i just think everyone got worked up a lil to easy...
sorry altec, nothing against you, but this post^^
did not warrant this response
and neither did your 2 posts.......were you BORN with a dick in your ass?
or are you just VERY anal?
i just think everyone got worked up a lil to easy...
AltecZX2
02-10-2006, 10:10 PM
and this post:
I know a guy w/ a 351 in a 88 stang.
did not deserve THIS responce
Isnt that nice. :gives:
If he wasn't ignorant this never would have started.
I know a guy w/ a 351 in a 88 stang.
did not deserve THIS responce
Isnt that nice. :gives:
If he wasn't ignorant this never would have started.
pre98zetec
02-10-2006, 10:15 PM
giddyup50
02-15-2006, 07:07 PM
There are people that have put big block Chevies in Ford Pintos. Simply saying "I know a guy with a BBC in a Pinto" gives no details on what was involved, what it cost, the parts needed, how difficult it was, or if the swap even functioned afterward. Therefore, it doesnt contribute anything.
I must admitt, I did laugh at your comment, funny and true. But come on man, he's just trying to get into the conversation.
I once knew a guy,who knew a guy, who knows a guy, who knows this girl, who was dating this guy, who worked with a guy, who was the son of this guy who had a.....a....88 Escort....stock 1.8L.
SORRY Altec, I couldn't resist.
I must admitt, I did laugh at your comment, funny and true. But come on man, he's just trying to get into the conversation.
I once knew a guy,who knew a guy, who knows a guy, who knows this girl, who was dating this guy, who worked with a guy, who was the son of this guy who had a.....a....88 Escort....stock 1.8L.
SORRY Altec, I couldn't resist.
AltecZX2
02-15-2006, 07:12 PM
LOL bitch haha
giddyup50
02-15-2006, 07:21 PM
I love how some people in these message boards act like they know everything and if anyone disagrees with them, they're going to KICK THEY'RE ASS thru the computer.
I hate to say it but, can't we all just get along?
I hate to say it but, can't we all just get along?
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