Im going NA what should i get?
theclassic32
01-21-2006, 10:45 AM
what i have is a honda accord ex 94. i have a couple of things in hand to be installed in the spring. I live in NYC so i have to wait for the winter season to be gone with. I have a JDM H22A from a JDM Accord SIR. 190 hp's and 152 lbs of torque. It is an automatic and i do not want to change to a manual for the simple reason that i like to lay back and ride not to mention traffic is a @#$%$. Many of you guys would say go manual but most of you guys live in cities where the speed limit is more than 50. Anyway i want go the NA route. I know its expensive but i can work with it. This is a list of what i have down to get:
skunk2 stage II camshafts
skunk2 pro seiries intake manifold(port and polished)
skunk2 titanium retainers and valve springs
skunk2 throttle body
AEM cam gears
AEM fuel rail
AEM fuel regulator
AEM pullys
JE pistons 11:5:1
Port and polished head
Eagle H beam rods
apexi vtec controller
This is pretty much all i have in mind for the rebuliding of the H22a. Would there be anything that i can add that would add to performance? or is there anything better than what i have mentioned above. What kind of ECU program can i use to better tune my car? Keep in mind its an automatic. i am not going turbo. Im looking for a goal of about 220 whp
skunk2 stage II camshafts
skunk2 pro seiries intake manifold(port and polished)
skunk2 titanium retainers and valve springs
skunk2 throttle body
AEM cam gears
AEM fuel rail
AEM fuel regulator
AEM pullys
JE pistons 11:5:1
Port and polished head
Eagle H beam rods
apexi vtec controller
This is pretty much all i have in mind for the rebuliding of the H22a. Would there be anything that i can add that would add to performance? or is there anything better than what i have mentioned above. What kind of ECU program can i use to better tune my car? Keep in mind its an automatic. i am not going turbo. Im looking for a goal of about 220 whp
Schister66
01-21-2006, 01:24 PM
Look into Crome or Uberdata....if you really have money to waste, go Hondata, but one of the others would work just fine IMO....
theclassic32
01-23-2006, 11:46 AM
it doesn't matter if its automatic?
94PreludeJDM
01-23-2006, 02:02 PM
Don't waste your money on a skunk2 intake manifold, it does next to nothing. Either have your stock one worked on, or get a Euro R mani, and maybe even work that. Also, don't forget your typical intake, header, exhaust. Intake and exhaust are preference for the most part, but if you're looking for the most performance (and if i was gonna do an NA setup) get a custom header, either SMSP or RMF. They'll give you 15-20 whp, from a bolt on.
theclassic32
01-23-2006, 07:12 PM
where would i go for those type of custome headers and how much would they run?
iVteC_PoWeR
01-23-2006, 09:55 PM
it all depends on how much power you want to make...is there a certain reason youd rather be n/a than boosted? with all the parts you named you could make a turbo setup and have a lot more power but its just a suggeston...
theclassic32
01-24-2006, 10:42 AM
The reason why i won't go turbo is because 1)my car is an automatic 2)the maintenance on a turbo car is expensive and 3)how much of that power would i be able to use in NYC?
theclassic32
01-24-2006, 10:51 AM
Since i will be working on my motor is there anything i can do to my automatic transmission to make it stronger because i highly doubt my transmission will be able to hold up well if my motor is going to be making a lot of power.
Schister66
01-24-2006, 11:06 AM
you could do an auto----->manual swap!
theclassic32
01-24-2006, 12:21 PM
Thats what i don't want to do, my reasons stated in my first post. Anything else i can do.
5thGenAccord
01-27-2006, 11:27 PM
seriously rethink your decision about switching to manual tranny. if youre just a cruising type of guy just save yourself the money and get your motor rebuilt with minimal aftermarket products i/h/e. then call it a day.
reason why i say this is because honda trannys, especially autos crap out. thats the reason they wont hold up against top of the line N/A and boosted whips. no point in having that much power if your tranny cant handle it.
reason why i say this is because honda trannys, especially autos crap out. thats the reason they wont hold up against top of the line N/A and boosted whips. no point in having that much power if your tranny cant handle it.
theclassic32
01-28-2006, 10:47 AM
but isn't there something i can do to my auto tranny to make it stronger so that it can handle the power?
mellowboy
01-30-2006, 11:52 AM
The reason why i won't go turbo is because 3)how much of that power would i be able to use in NYC?
Mind as well keep it stock. Im originally from Chicago and I know how the traffic is. I still modified the shit out of my old crx. I know you can't drive in the city like you can in the country or suburbs but I take it to the track. If you're not serious which I dont think you are (no offense), then keep it stock. Theres really no point.
Mind as well keep it stock. Im originally from Chicago and I know how the traffic is. I still modified the shit out of my old crx. I know you can't drive in the city like you can in the country or suburbs but I take it to the track. If you're not serious which I dont think you are (no offense), then keep it stock. Theres really no point.
S13wanabe
01-31-2006, 07:17 PM
You would have plenty of fun with a stock h22 with boltons. For you it doesn't seem like you need a built motor, it will just create a future headache if you plan on keeping the auto trans. Yes you can get the tranny built stronger, but it would require locating a specialty honda auto tranny shop. They do exist, but are very few and far between, and expensive. After that, the auto wouldn't be so friendly to drive everyday either. I said it in another thread and I will say it again, don't halfass anything. It just leads to headaches.
theclassic32
02-01-2006, 02:41 PM
i appreciate everyones advice and i don't take any offense to anything. so what would be the best boltons for a h22a except for i/h/e and how much power would be too much for my auto tranny? Its funny how i've been researching on how to get power now i have to research on not to make too much power. Oh well, i guess i will focus a little more on looks then.
S13wanabe
02-01-2006, 05:44 PM
Having all bolt-ons should still be safe with that tranny. Other things you can look at would be high flow cat or a test pipe to replace it, cam gears, pullies, T-body and intake mani (which will get a very minor gain if any), fuel delivery stuff. Just remember that when you do fuel delivery you need something to control it (VAFC). Good luck with it all.
PS: Just bite the bullet and get a manual tranny. :grinyes:
PS: Just bite the bullet and get a manual tranny. :grinyes:
SiGNAL748
02-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Cams
TurboGSR96
02-01-2006, 06:49 PM
I'd do a GSR Tranny instead of an LS Trans. The GSR Tranny was made from the factory to support more hp than the LS trans. I have chewed up 2 LS Trannys (1 only had 50k on it). It is partly due to my clutch but the other part is the LS is weaker
mellowboy
02-02-2006, 10:19 AM
i appreciate everyones advice and i don't take any offense to anything. so what would be the best boltons for a h22a except for i/h/e and how much power would be too much for my auto tranny? Its funny how i've been researching on how to get power now i have to research on not to make too much power. Oh well, i guess i will focus a little more on looks then.
IF you're not shooting for 300-400 plus hp then your tranny will be fine.
IF you're not shooting for 300-400 plus hp then your tranny will be fine.
theclassic32
02-02-2006, 10:27 AM
No, i was just shooting for like 225 whp and thats it. This is so confusing, a couple of people say that the tranny won't hold up and then people say that it will hold up. Who do i believe? It looks like i'm going to have to find out the hard way.
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