intake ?

What kind of intake should i put in on a 2000 integra ls ? non-vtec 2 door. i was thinking of just getting a K&N cone filter and puttin it on with the stock tubing ? what do you guys recommend whats best for more horse ?

IMO, i would get the AEM Cold Air. I got it on my GSR and noticed a big difference. Plus, it comes with a K&N filter in the kit. That's my $0.02 on what you should get.:D

yes on your GS-R you would prob notice more of a diff than in my car because yours is vteced ... mine isnt so my gains will be smaller :( i was thinking of that one but how much does it run for ?

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RacerXintegra2k, if you thinking of buying only a filter then my suggestion is to forget it...
I would buy an AEM or DAC cold air intake. Believe it or not but the piping can actually make a difference. The piping isdesigned to have low friction with the air and sometimes even to have some sort of coating to insulate the air which is dragged in to become warm, hence the name cold air intake. :D So yeah I'd say buy the whole system and not just a cone, you prob will see a slight difference with only a cone but it is better with the piping too.
As a bonus the piping looks better too, AEM offers three colors I think so that you can color match it with the engine compartment color if you have any.

alright so i should get the cai and not just a short ram setup i heard that water can get in on cais and cause problem whats are your thoughts ? and i also heard that cai's dont offer that much more power compared to a regular short ram intake ?

Originally posted by RacerXintegra2k
alright so i should get the cai and not just a short ram setup i heard that water can get in on cais and cause problem whats are your thoughts ? and i also heard that cai's dont offer that much more power compared to a regular short ram intake ?

that's wrong. Cai offers more power gains than short ram. Cai gets "cold" air into engine but short ram gets hot air into engine. Of course cold air is better for our engine.

And yes, it's possible that cai suck water into the engine. I think it's ok as long as you don't drive into a pond or lake. My area rains hard all the time and my air filter does get "wet". However, I haven't had a problem so far. Oh, and I have an aem cai.

:)

my friend is behind me telling me you have to drill holes and cut some stuff what exacly do you have to do to install the AEM Cai ?

Originally posted by RacerXintegra2k
my friend is behind me telling me you have to drill holes and cut some stuff what exacly do you have to do to install the AEM Cai ?
I'm not sure, but I haven't heard anyone talking about drilling and cutting. As far as I know all CAIs are fabricated according to make and model of the car, with soft mounts to attach the CAI to the engine compartment. I guess it depends on the make of the CAI. I for one talk in terms of the AEM CAI with the soft mounts.
Cold air is recommended for the CAI for intake purposes. Cold air is more Oxygen rich in content and creates a better process when consummed.
Short Ram Intakes are OK, no more no less. I think CAIs are much better because they are made so that they reach deep into some place of the engine compartment and draw COLD air from that place. Short Rams are visible and close to the surface of the engine (close to hood) where the heat rises to, hence a warm hood after a longer drive. Now immagine the ram air takes that warm air in...the engine goes :cry: :apuke: ........Not really but still. So talking CAI vs short ram, I'd say go with a CAI (all the way).
Talking about water problems...That can be a problem. The CAI reaches deep down into the engine compartment and if it so happens that there are plenty of puddles then water could get into it and make the engine cough! :bloated: What most people do is to put a aluminium plate under the car, right under the place where the filter points at, which kind of protects against that problem...kind of...nothing is 100%.
Yet I haven't heard many to complain about water intake.
...my 101 for today...

oh totally forgot.....AEM has now a by-pass valve on their CAIs. Supposedly that foam like piece filters out any parts of water that come into the intake system before they can reach the engine.
here is a pic:
http://members.rogers.com/borgul/post/bypass.jpg

The AEM Bypass filter shown above doesn't actually filter water out.

When the filter becomes wet or the tube becomes submerged, the air pressure in the intake tube increases. The bypass valve has rubber flaps under the foam which are matched to the size of the tubing so that when the pressure increases the flaps open. This allows the intake to take in air from the area around the bypass valve where it is (hopefully) dry.

I have one on my 1998 GSR and have not had a single problem at all.

I highly recommend the AEM CAI. It was by far the best part I put on my car.

Also, there is no cutting or drilling required it was more difficult to take the old intake out than put the new one in.

i've emailed an performance website, and they said it is required to cut the piping of the CAI to install the bypass valve. unless they told me wrong... tell me.. heh.

I think that only applies if the CAI didn't come with it when you got it. I looked on the AEM website and the one there looks like it is already pre-cut and ready for assembly. So as I said only for CAIs that didn;t come with it.

Yea, I was wrong about the not cutting. When I said that I was thinking about the car not the intake. My bypass valve came in a separate box about three days before the intake. I had to use a tailpipe cutter to cut the intake tube. The cutter left a better edge than a hacksaw would have but you need to be very careful not to bend the aluminum pipe.

hasnt the bypass valve been proven to lose hp, and not actually help that much? getting water ingested in ur engine shouldnt be a problem as long as you dont drive through 16" of water :rolleyes: which doesnt seem too likely. i suppose its worthe caution however, cause the water would completly ruin ur engine.

Originally posted by hobbes311
hasnt the bypass valve been proven to lose hp,

I have not seen any concrete evidence that the bypass valve causes a loss in power, so I can only assume any loss would be minimal, if at all.

Originally posted by hobbes311
and not actually help that much?

As far as keeping water out of the engine (what it is designed for) it is very effective! I don't know if you have seen the SCC done with the bypass valve on an NSX.

Originally posted by hobbes311
getting water ingested in ur engine shouldnt be a problem as long as you dont drive through 16" of water :rolleyes: which doesnt seem too likely.

While that is true for the most part, I know of people who hydro-locked their engine driving through minimal amounts of water, and others who have had no damage driving through large amounts of water... Just hope you will not be one of the unlucky few I guess...

Originally posted by hobbes311
i suppose its worthe caution however, cause the water would completly ruin ur engine.

Yes it would, and a simple $40 investment could save it.

AEM included in the instructions that there is a small loss in power by installing the valve (mainly caused by the small disruption in air flow as opposed to a straight pipe). The instructions stated that on "race day" the valve should be replaced with a piece of rubber hose to get the full horsepower it is capable of. I have tried it both ways and have felt no noticeable difference.

As far as the security goes, we had 7 1/2 inches of rain in a 2 day period here a couple of weeks ago. Yea, it's not real common but the peace of mind was worth the $40. I damn sure don't want to spend $5K on a new GSR motor.

Originally posted by kwik46
The instructions stated that on "race day" the valve should be replaced with a piece of rubber hose to get the full horsepower it is capable of. I have tried it both ways and have felt no noticeable difference.

What did you use to replace the bypass valve? What I mean is, did you just go to Home Depot and pick up a piece of 2.75" rubber tubing? I don't want the rubber to melt due to the engine heat...Let me know. I only need the bypass valve on for the month and a half it rains here, monsoon season at the end of the summer. It rains inches within minutes and our streets have NO drainage since, well, that is the only time it rains in Arizona. It's like driving in a river!

Here in Wichita, Kansas we have the Aircraft industry in full force. Because of this we have various business that offer somewhat odd parts and supplies. I went to one such store and was able to buy tubing basically for connecting an intercooler to intake tube. Even if you could find a radiator hose that big it would take the heat. I just got the intercooler type hose because it was bright orange.

By the way, is that you in the picture on your post...if so...NICE!!! ;)

Originally posted by kwik46
By the way, is that you in the picture on your post...if so...NICE!!! ;)

That's Anna Kournikova you dink, not me :finger: I am a guy :bloated:

I can't help that it is such a teeny pic. I couldn't see for sure.