Supercharger!!!!!!!!!???????

ok I am thinking of supercherging my MAX becuz I am keeping it now not selling it. Anyways I heard rumors that it is bad for the engine if you are an everyday driver with the supercharger?? THis is probaly not true but i am not sure so I asking people who have superchargers to let me know. ANy info. would be helpful in my quest to get supercharged.:D :D

you got a manual or auto tranny? I heard that it is not good for the stock auto tranny and that it might go out real quick if you dont get a better torque converter.

Ya I unfortunately have an auto and it shifts awful. Anyways I am stuck with the auto but need the supercharger so I need to find out how bad this is for the engine.

Well first off, if you already have tranny problems, then you probably don't want boost, it will just finish the job off... If you do get boost, you need a VB mod, and a tranny cooler at the least... As far as engine wear goes, it will be increased, anytime you increase power like that their will be extra wear, but as long as you take care of your engine (ie, don't drive like a madman all the time, regular oil changes, spark plugs, etc...) You shouldn't experience a serious decrease in the life of your engine...
:D

I meant that I have an auto and the tranny isn't a fast shifting one. It is a 30,000 mi. old tranny so it is fine. I drive a lot of miles and don't know if the car can handle the extra boost. Will I have to change the pulley's as well.

Do a compression test on your car, or have one done, if the psi is within specs for all cylinders, then go for it. As far as changing pulleys, no, you cannot, if you do it will mess up your boost... ;)

Originally posted by 97GLEMAX
I meant that I have an auto and the tranny isn't a fast shifting one. It is a 30,000 mi. old tranny so it is fine. I drive a lot of miles and don't know if the car can handle the extra boost. Will I have to change the pulley's as well.

I don't care what you have heard, there is nothing wrong with having a SuperCharger on a daily-driver. Go for it.

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=181995&page=4

Yup I think i am going to go for it. Just have to save a little more!!

wait wouldn't a pulley increase boost? correct me if im wrong but wouldn't it be the smaller the pulley is, the more boost you get?

Originally posted by redrum85
wait wouldn't a pulley increase boost? correct me if im wrong but wouldn't it be the smaller the pulley is, the more boost you get?

A UDP will decrease boost, but a smaller SC pulley will increase boost.

Matt is technically correct. Changing the SC pulley will mess up boost... for good at least. :)

I thought he was talking about the crank pulley, ie: UDP, not the S/C pully, changing that is a good thing... ;)

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


A UDP will decrease boost, but a smaller SC pulley will increase boost.

Matt is technically correct. Changing the SC pulley will mess up boost... for good at least. :)

Originally posted by mtrai760
I thought he was talking about the crank pulley, ie: UDP, not the S/C pully, changing that is a good thing... ;)



:eek2: Imagine a 2.87" on a VSLD 5 speed! :eek2:

:eek: OMFG, Now your just playing with me Kev!

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Imagine a 2.87" on a VSLD 5 speed!





























Though I could go pick on some Vette's then... ;)

Originally posted by mtrai760
:eek: OMFG, Now your just playing with me Kev!

Though I could go pick on some Vette's then... ;)

Hehehehehe

Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh pssssshhhhhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh psssssssshhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh pssssssssshhhhhhhhhh...........

:wave:

Matt :biggrin2: Kev Ya just like to rub it in don't cha!!!
:cry:

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Hehehehehe

Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh pssssshhhhhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh psssssssshhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh pssssssssshhhhhhhhhh...........












































Someday.... WAAAAAAAAAPSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHPSSSHHHH HHHHHHHWAAAAAAAAAPSPPSSSSSSHHHHHHHH.......
:licker:

Don't drive it like a madman? Shit.... uhhhh...... oh well to late.....
-J

Originally posted by mtrai760
Matt :biggrin2: Kev Ya just like to rub it in don't cha!!!
:cry:

Someday.... WAAAAAAAAAPSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHPSSSHHHH HHHHHHHWAAAAAAAAAPSPPSSSSSSHHHHHHHH.......
:licker:

When will that be? :angel:

I'll never tell....
:devil:
































but jOO know....
:angel:

;)

Did Ian fix his boost leak yet?

Not that I know of... :(

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
;)

Did Ian fix his boost leak yet?

Originally posted by mtrai760
Not that I know of... :(



I hope he doesn't have to send the SC to Vortech.

Youve got mail :D

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I hope he doesn't have to send the SC to Vortech.

S/Cs are over-rated :finger:

Originally posted by MaxRX7
S/Cs are over-rated :finger:


They are under-rated. Once you have one, there's no going back.

And what is your reason for this???... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by MaxRX7
S/Cs are over-rated :finger:

Originally posted by MaxRX7
S/Cs are over-rated :finger:

:bloated:

I think blow off valves sound awesome.

Originally posted by SamMan23
I think blow off valves sound awesome.

Not me. To me, there is no sound like no sound.

http://www.supraforums.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Should I even break it down for you all to comprehend ?

Originally posted by MaxRX7
Should I even break it down for you all to comprehend ?

Coming from someone who can't even type his signature gramatically correct - don't bother.

Originally posted by ptatohed
gramatically

:rolleyes:


:finger:

A minor typo and just plain speaking the English language grammatically incorrect (in your signature no less) are two different things Einstein.


http://www.supraforums.com/images/smilies/spank.gif

just start running synthetic oil in the car and make sure to keep the oil resevoir in the actual supercharger full and you'll be fine. I've seen a supercharged maxima se with 200,000+ miles.

Originally posted by Paonessa
just start running synthetic oil in the car and make sure to keep the oil resevoir in the actual supercharger full and you'll be fine.

Would you like to elaborate on this please?

Ya, I wanna know too! :hehe:

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Would you like to elaborate on this please?

Originally posted by mtrai760
Ya, I wanna know too! :hehe:



:bloated: ? :hehe:

the kid who was talking about getting a supercharger for his 97 max was worried about too much wear and tear on his engine from a supercharger.


I was just saying that if he uses synthetic oil (preferably mobil 1) in his car, it will prolong the life of his car and superchrager.

Originally posted by Paonessa
the kid who was talking about getting a supercharger for his 97 max was worried about too much wear and tear on his engine from a supercharger.


I was just saying that if he uses synthetic oil (preferably mobil 1) in his car, it will prolong the life of his car and superchrager.


Right but you can't control how much oil is in the SC reservoir.

I know, but if you're changing your own oil there will be about 1/2 qt in the s/c resevoir that will need to be drained.

Just so you know, the vortech S/C does not have a 'resevoir' per say... sure it uses oil to lubricate, but it doesn't store it, that's why it has oil lines, to feed it fresh oil, and it certainly doesn't 'hold' half a quart. My buddies car hardly took any extra oil at all when adding the S/C... Straight off of vortechs website: High pressure engine oil is used for cooling, lubrication, and very low maintenance.
:rolleyes:

http://www.vortecheng.com/images/s-trim_cw_cvd_sat.gif
:confused:

listen,
don't try to insult my intelligence with stupid subject headings. (i.e digging yourself a hole...) My father has a supercharged 5.7 liter 350 cubic inch chevy engine which used to be in his boat. on the tippy top of this 900+ horsepower beast, which coincidientally is going into a 1940 ford, is an oil resevoir strictly for the supercharger. it takes gear oil but it's an oil resevoir and it needs to be changed regularly.

P.S
not all superchargers are made by vortech. There are mulitple different methods of doing things.


so dig YOURSELF a hole and bury your head so i can kick you in the ass :flipa:

Ohhh, nasty nasty aren't we? Real tough guy on the internet? Good for you. I simply said you were digging a hole because you sound like a jackass making remarks about a S/C you know nothing about. Some ATI superchargers only have a resevior, no feed lines. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH A MAXIMA? You said, and I quote: make sure to keep the oil resevoir in the actual supercharger full and you'll be fine. I've seen a supercharged maxima se with 200,000+ miles. end quote. Now show me the resevior on a Supercharged Maxima! Fool, don't come at me with all that attitude. I try to help people out on this board, to educuate them, not fill them with meaningless ramblings and bullshit. Have you run 100 shot of nitrous on your maxima, a 13 second 1/4 mile, or put a 5spd tranny in your automatic car? Rebuilt engines, made a VW bus with a wheelie bar that was REQUIRED! Your father has this and that, SCREW YOU You have what you showed me to be a meaningless knowledge base. What do you have? Even better, what do you have to offer other than the crap youve posted? Ask for my help ever, need help with your car, or advice. Look at all the post on here and see how many people can help you with anything other than lightbulb selection. Get off your high horse sunshine, class was in session and you failed... Congrats on alienating one of the only people who can help you on this damn board!:D

Originally posted by Paonessa
listen,
don't try to insult my intelligence with stupid subject headings. (i.e digging yourself a hole...) My father has a supercharged 5.7 liter 350 cubic inch chevy engine which used to be in his boat. on the tippy top of this 900+ horsepower beast, which coincidientally is going into a 1940 ford, is an oil resevoir strictly for the supercharger. it takes gear oil but it's an oil resevoir and it needs to be changed regularly.

P.S
not all superchargers are made by vortech. There are mulitple different methods of doing things.


so dig YOURSELF a hole and bury your head so i can kick you in the ass


BTW, don't ever threaten another man on the internet, it makes you sound so childish, because you know your not going to do anything about it. How big am I? How big are you? Neither of us knows, and neither of us ever will, so save your useless posturing for the playground I'm sure you still reside on. Fool.
:rolleyes:

you're just pissed because you try to make yourself a sound like some sort of wealth of knowledge when you're really probably some 35 year old grocery bagger driving the same car that a 19 year old(such as myself) can afford. Then when the person gets annoyed that you try to belittle them( me again), you get defensive. The whole point of my entry was not to spurt knowldge about superchargers I was telling the fuckin kid to maintain oil in his car and high milage shouldn't effect performance when he adds forced induction to his maxima.

and I'd bite my fucking tonue off before i ask you for help with anything mother fucker

by the way cold food goes with cold food, eggs get their own bags and old ladies prefer paper in plastic keep that in mind and maybe you can be the actual cashier one day :finger: (6.00/hr) :finger:

SO..., FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU:flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: FUCK YOU :flipa: :flipa:

P.s. i bought my car at 17
:flipa:

I bought mine when I was 16....yes?no? Notta damn thing wrong with jobs like bein a bagger, or workin for mcdonalds..where i made my money for my car

There's always someone smarter thatn you, even if you do know EVERYTHING...remember that next time yall shoot off at the mouth in angry outbursts

Ah, so your only 19. That explains everything. Show me another post on this forum where it looks like I belittled someone? Best advice on supercharging a higher milage car? Perform a compression test. If everything test good, boost away. That's the best advice you could have given him. But since your a teenager, I'm sure you already knew that, since teenagers know everything. Why do you think Kev (Y2kevse) asked you to explain what you were talking about? Because it made no sense. If I go along blabbing my mouth about something I obviously know nothing about, I hope someone corrects me so I stop sounding like a jackass. Bought your first car at 17... So? What does that have to do with anything? I bought my first car at 18. What does that prove? My maxima is my 3rd car, that proves.... nothing.... BTW, I'm a helicopter mechanic and crewchief, and I'm only 24. I really don't know that much about cars when compared with an auto mechanic, but I can hold my own with most hobbiest. My of my experience is working on CH-46E transport helicopters in the Marine Corps for 5 years, now I work and fly on CH-47D transport Helicopters in the National Guard while I try and put myself through college.

You sound like you know alot about bagging groceries, I guess your already in the business?


Originally posted by Paonessa
you're just pissed because you try to make yourself a sound like some sort of wealth of knowledge when you're really probably some 35 year old grocery bagger driving the same car that a 19 year old(such as myself) can afford. Then when the person gets annoyed that you try to belittle them( me again), you get defensive. The whole point of my entry was not to spurt knowldge about superchargers I was telling the fuckin kid to maintain oil in his car and high milage shouldn't effect performance when he adds forced induction to his maxima.

and I'd bite my fucking tonue off before i ask you for help with anything mother fucker

by the way cold food goes with cold food, eggs get their own bags and old ladies prefer paper in plastic keep that in mind and maybe you can be the actual cashier one day :finger: (6.00/hr) :finger:

P.s. i bought my car at 17
:flipa:

that all may be true. it's not but the point is you're still wrong. And YOU jumped down my throat trying to make me sound like i don't know what i'm talking about. I never once claimed to have more than basic knowledge on anything car related. The whole point of me responding/subscribing to this thread was to tell the kid to lubricate his car well. that's all, plain and simple. You turned it into a "who's the car authority of this forum?" pissing contest. And there's nothing wrong with shitty jobs, I am sorry about that remark. I don't think there's going to be much more supercharger talk and i have nothing more i wish to add

So 97GLEMAX, good luck with the forced induction,
Mtrai760, go fuck yourself
and sleepinmax97 my bad, I didn't mean to insult you

I'm sorry if I sounded like I was jumping on you, that wasnt my intent, nor was any insult intended, and I'm certainly not the car authority on this forum. Maybe my heading was a little out of line, but your tirade that followed was uncalled for. How many harsh words did I use in my post? How many times did you tell me to go fuck myself? But I'm the badguy. Hey, that's okay, I'm sorry for what I said, but thats the most of an apology your getting out of me... :o

Originally posted by Paonessa
that all may be true. it's not but the point is you're still wrong. And YOU jumped down my throat trying to make me sound like i don't know what i'm talking about. I never once claimed to have more than basic knowledge on anything car related. The whole point of me responding/subscribing to this thread was to tell the kid to lubricate his car well. that's all, plain and simple. You turned it into a "who's the car authority of this forum?" pissing contest. And there's nothing wrong with shitty jobs, I am sorry about that remark. I don't think there's going to be much more supercharger talk and i have nothing more i wish to add

So 97GLEMAX, good luck with the forced induction,
Mtrai760, go fuck yourself
and sleepinmax97 my bad, I didn't mean to insult you

ok that'll suffice
i'm sorry for losing my temper and my vulgarity was uncalled for.

Let's call peace and be done with it then... :D

a'right

Originally posted by Paonessa
I know, but if you're changing your own oil there will be about 1/2 qt in the s/c resevoir that will need to be drained.


But that's not what you said. You said to keep the reservoir full. That's not correct.

And no, you do not need to change any oil in the SC when you change your engine oil. http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/ne_nau.gif

1)stop instigating

2) it's a seperate tank that uses gear oil

3)it's over

Originally posted by Paonessa
1)stop instigating

2) it's a seperate tank that uses gear oil

3)it's over


1.) I'm not, I'm correcting you where you are wrong. I am trying to help. Help you learn as well as let other's reading about this stuff for the first time know the truth.

2.) Wrong again!! There is NO seperate tank and there is NO gear oil. There is an oil feed line that "T's" into the oil pan and is fed into the Vortech. It uses the engine oil. No seperate tank, no gear oil.

3.) O.k. :)

Holly shiiittt....
i have never seen testosterone levels get so high...;)

It's NOT a fucking Vortech. not all superchargers are the same

Originally posted by Paonessa
It's NOT a fucking Vortech. not all superchargers are the same


Dude, drop it. You have embarrASSed yourself enough as it is. Nobody ever said all superchargers are the same. Nobody. We aren't talking about 'all superchargers'. We are talking about a Vortec/Stillen supercharger for the NISSAN MAXIMA. And oddly enough, this is a NISSAN MAXIMA forum. Weird, huh?

No, before you started MORE bull shit, we were talking about how much damage, if any, a supercharger would cause on a high mileage maxima engine and i told him to keep it lubricated and it shouldn't matter. Then me and what's his face started arguing about the oil resevoir.
But after all was settled between me and the other kid, you started.
So you drop it.

Originally posted by Paonessa
No, before you started MORE bull shit, we were talking about how much damage, if any, a supercharger would cause on a high mileage maxima engine and i told him to keep it lubricated and it shouldn't matter. Then me and what's his face started arguing about the oil resevoir.
But after all was settled between me and the other kid, you started.
So you drop it.


You know what kills me about you? That you can't see how wrong you are, admitt it, and drop it. You keep arguing something that is inarguable! Quite funny actually. Thanks for the laugh. This has nothing to do with the 'other kid'. Let's take this chronologically:

Thread start: 97GLEMAX asks if supercharging is bad on the engine of a daily driver. Note he says he wants to get a supercharger for his MAXIMA (key word: MAXIMA).

... a few pages of talk blah-blah...

Then on page three you write: "just start running synthetic oil in the car and make sure to keep the oil resevoir in the actual supercharger full and you'll be fine. I've seen a supercharged maxima se with 200,000+ miles."

WRONG!!!!!! There is no reservoir in the supercharger!! And yes, we are talking about a MAXIMA supercharger.




Then I called you on that and you said: "I know, but if you're changing your own oil there will be about 1/2 qt in the s/c resevoir that will need to be drained."

WRONG!!!! There is no 1/2 qt oil in the SC (and yes, we are talking about the MAXIMA still).




Then mtrai corrects you and sets you straight and you jump all over him. He was right, you were wrong.


Then you two go back and forth for a while and then I correct you on your 'reservoir and 1/2 qt'. I was being nice/friendly, I was just correcting you. (Remember, we are still talking about the Nissan MAXIMA - this is a MAXIMA forum).


Then you get hostile over me correcting you and you still claim a seperate tank for the oil!! Oh brother.



Then you try to claim you are talking about another SuperCharger. Yeah sure!!!! We are all talking about a Stillen/Vortech SC for the Nissan MAXIAMA. PERIOD. You are the only one who is talking about other SC's - and even that was only after you were told you were wrong about the reservoir.

Do you you have a SuperCharger on your MAXIMA? Have you installed a SuperCharger on a MAXIMA? Have you seen one in person? I didn't think so. :P

This is the original post on page one.


"ok I am thinking of supercherging my MAX becuz I am keeping it now not selling it. Anyways I heard rumors that it is bad for the engine if you are an everyday driver with the supercharger?? THis is probaly not true but i am not sure so I asking people who have superchargers to let me know. ANy info. would be helpful in my quest to get supercharged. "

i never see the word vortech anywhere.


Go to blowerdrive services web page(www.blowerdriveservice.com/tech) and look at tech specs (FAQ)
The question is if the individual can run an oil line from the engine to the supercharger and the answer is...

A: BDS recommends using a self-contained, 90 wt. Heavy duty gear oil lubrication system. Contaminating the engine oil in the motor with 90 wt. Oil can cause some engine lubrication problems and increase the likelihood of detonation.


I am done with this thread. everyone move on.

Originally posted by Paonessa
This is the original post on page one.


"ok I am thinking of supercherging my MAX becuz I am keeping it now not selling it. Anyways I heard rumors that it is bad for the engine if you are an everyday driver with the supercharger?? THis is probaly not true but i am not sure so I asking people who have superchargers to let me know. ANy info. would be helpful in my quest to get supercharged. "

i never see the word vortech anywhere.


Go to blowerdrive services web page(www.blowerdriveservice.com/tech) and look at tech specs (FAQ)
The question is if the individual can run an oil line from the engine to the supercharger and the answer is...

A: BDS recommends using a self-contained, 90 wt. Heavy duty gear oil lubrication system. Contaminating the engine oil in the motor with 90 wt. Oil can cause some engine lubrication problems and increase the likelihood of detonation.


I am done with this thread. everyone move on.



It kills me that you just can't see/admitt that you are wrong. No it doesn't say Vortech anywhere but you know what, anyone educated on MAXIMAs in the slightest (not you obviously) knows there is one and one only SuperCharger made for the Nissan Maxima. It goes WITHOUT SAYING! You show me one Nissan Maxima with a supercharger other than the Stillen/Vortech. Just one. And I'll eat my words and kiss your feet. But I don't have to worry about that. You know why? There exists this many custom supercharghed Maximas: ZERO. Nice try though.