How much larger can I (safely) go than 16" wheels?
Nancy in NC
01-05-2006, 08:04 PM
Hello,
I need new tires for my 1996 BMW 740il, and while I'm at it, I would really like to get some nicer wheels to replace the OEM 16" BBS wheels I currently have that came with the car new. (They are a #%$# to clean!)
How much bigger can I go on the wheel size without having a problem with wheel-well rubbing if I get at least 235's (but probably bigger)?
I'm sure I can get away with 17's, but I'd like to also consider 18's if y'all think they might work. If I went with 18's, would I have to get a narrower/lower profile tire?
Any input would be much-appreciated - thanks!
I need new tires for my 1996 BMW 740il, and while I'm at it, I would really like to get some nicer wheels to replace the OEM 16" BBS wheels I currently have that came with the car new. (They are a #%$# to clean!)
How much bigger can I go on the wheel size without having a problem with wheel-well rubbing if I get at least 235's (but probably bigger)?
I'm sure I can get away with 17's, but I'd like to also consider 18's if y'all think they might work. If I went with 18's, would I have to get a narrower/lower profile tire?
Any input would be much-appreciated - thanks!
curtis73
01-05-2006, 10:38 PM
Doesn't your car currently have 235s? I think they came that way anyway.
When you upsize wheels, you have to go smaller on the tires. A little difference is usually acceptable, but the BMW doesn't leave much room for error. If you visit this site: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html Put in your current tire size and then play around with sizes on 17, 18, and 19 until you find one that has the same overall diameter. It doesn't have to be dead on, but within 1/2" will keep your speedometer correct and keep the same look, stance, etc. If you keep the same width and use a lower profile tire to keep the same overall diameter, then they're almost guaranteed not to rub.
Now, make sure that you visit some BMW 7-series forums or do an internet search to see what width of tire you can fit without rubbing.
Then make sure you choose the proper offset. If you're keeping the same width tires, keep the stock offset. If you want to go larger width, chances are you'll have to choose a different width/offset of wheel. Only experience and careful measuring will determine that. That's where the forums come in really handy. There is a 7 series forum here under the BMW heading.
With a car that heavy, be very cautious of going too big. Tires with small sidewalls have many drawbacks; unpredictable handling, less forward traction when you want to smash the pedal, and its incredibly easy to bend wheels. Little unexpected potholes on the road will turn your 18" investment into scrap. You're also going to add a good bit of unsprung weight to the party which can negatively affect handling, acceleration performance, and ride quality.
Keep the tire sidewall profile as thick as you can. The tires on my 17" have a 4.3" sidewall and three of my four wheels are bent. I don't know how the bling crowd puts up with it with their 24" chromies.
I think switching to 17 or 18 is physically well within reason. There should be no trouble at all if you're willing to put up with the negatives. Some people don't notice the negatives at all
You could switch out for the 17" BMW sport wheels. I think they came with 245 rubber and you know they would have the proper offset for your application.
When you upsize wheels, you have to go smaller on the tires. A little difference is usually acceptable, but the BMW doesn't leave much room for error. If you visit this site: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html Put in your current tire size and then play around with sizes on 17, 18, and 19 until you find one that has the same overall diameter. It doesn't have to be dead on, but within 1/2" will keep your speedometer correct and keep the same look, stance, etc. If you keep the same width and use a lower profile tire to keep the same overall diameter, then they're almost guaranteed not to rub.
Now, make sure that you visit some BMW 7-series forums or do an internet search to see what width of tire you can fit without rubbing.
Then make sure you choose the proper offset. If you're keeping the same width tires, keep the stock offset. If you want to go larger width, chances are you'll have to choose a different width/offset of wheel. Only experience and careful measuring will determine that. That's where the forums come in really handy. There is a 7 series forum here under the BMW heading.
With a car that heavy, be very cautious of going too big. Tires with small sidewalls have many drawbacks; unpredictable handling, less forward traction when you want to smash the pedal, and its incredibly easy to bend wheels. Little unexpected potholes on the road will turn your 18" investment into scrap. You're also going to add a good bit of unsprung weight to the party which can negatively affect handling, acceleration performance, and ride quality.
Keep the tire sidewall profile as thick as you can. The tires on my 17" have a 4.3" sidewall and three of my four wheels are bent. I don't know how the bling crowd puts up with it with their 24" chromies.
I think switching to 17 or 18 is physically well within reason. There should be no trouble at all if you're willing to put up with the negatives. Some people don't notice the negatives at all
You could switch out for the 17" BMW sport wheels. I think they came with 245 rubber and you know they would have the proper offset for your application.
Moppie
01-06-2006, 01:15 AM
Just one note about big wheels on 740s of that generation.
There are two differnt sidewall types, the type that sticks out, sort of has a bead around it protect the wheel from the being curbed. And the type that dosn't.
Use the latter, as the formers will rub :)
It might mean haveing to hunt around for tyres though.
There are two differnt sidewall types, the type that sticks out, sort of has a bead around it protect the wheel from the being curbed. And the type that dosn't.
Use the latter, as the formers will rub :)
It might mean haveing to hunt around for tyres though.
Nancy in NC
01-06-2006, 07:40 AM
Thank you both. I'll definitely visit the BMW forum for some more input.
Maybe I'll just bump up to the 17" as opposed to going bigger than that. I like that idea of the 17" sport wheels. Maybe I can even find some used OEM's on Ebay or something.
I have had other sportscars with 18" wheels (300ZX convertible and RX7 convertible), and am only too familiar with the ride and wear compromises - in addition to the cost - ack.
My car did come with 235/60's, and I'd like to get wheels and tires that are less "doughnutty" looking. I did know of a site where you could try wheels and tires on your own car in your own model year and color, but I forget what site that is...
I used to spare no expense for handling, but as I've gotten older (sob), I am more concerned now with ride and treadwear than I used to be. Kinda sad.
Thanks again!
Maybe I'll just bump up to the 17" as opposed to going bigger than that. I like that idea of the 17" sport wheels. Maybe I can even find some used OEM's on Ebay or something.
I have had other sportscars with 18" wheels (300ZX convertible and RX7 convertible), and am only too familiar with the ride and wear compromises - in addition to the cost - ack.
My car did come with 235/60's, and I'd like to get wheels and tires that are less "doughnutty" looking. I did know of a site where you could try wheels and tires on your own car in your own model year and color, but I forget what site that is...
I used to spare no expense for handling, but as I've gotten older (sob), I am more concerned now with ride and treadwear than I used to be. Kinda sad.
Thanks again!
CBFryman
01-06-2006, 01:37 PM
16" tires are expensive anyway for some reason. i have 16's on my truck and both 15's and 17's where cheaper than the same size tire (OD) for my 16's. teh gay.
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