I got RAMMED

WTF.... I was on the way to a friend's house the other night... and this asshole with his big Turbo Diesel V8 Ram 2500 showed his ass... he tried racing me, then rode my ass... I took off to get him off my bumper, but he kept riding my tail... we hit a good 110... we were coming around a corner... so I tapped my brakes, he backed off... after this corner, there's a bridge... he got back on my bumper, then there's another corner... so I tapped my brakes again... he hit me hard... Then the motherfucker jumped outta his truck and wanted to kick my ass... He told the officer he was trying to pass me in a no-passing zone... and that I swerved in front of him... the officer wrote us both tickets... he got me for being over the center line... but I wasn't over the center line until after I was hit... He got the other driver for trying to pass in a no passing zone... The officer didn't take statements from my girlfriend (who was in the car), nor did he measure the skid marks... He didn't give us either sobriety tests or anything either... it was fucked up... I got in touch with my lawyer, my tickets getting dropped... and I got pictures to prove that I wasn't over the center line... I also have pictures showing the trucks skids that were over the center line... plus I have pictures showing how little visibility there was in that corner... but my insurance company seems to think that I won't be able to collect from his... so my car gets totalled and I get screwed the fuck over.... WTH.... any advice?

P.S.-I'll post pics soon... I gotta go home and post them, camera's there...

from an insurance standpoint, he hit the rear end of you, ie: he rear ended you. 99% of the time when someone rearends you, THEY are at fault, which means his insurance company should accept liability and pay the damages.

yeah, but the officer wrote it up as we were both at fault... the officer was a real asshole... the man lied to him... I got some friends who know the officer... they told me to fight it, b/c he's a really corrupt officer and does stuff wrong...

Advice.......stop being a dumb ass.

For some reason I think you are bending the truth on your story.

w/e my g/f will vouch... he was f'in with me and wouldn't stay off my ass... I tapped the brakes, he rammed me... and then the officer was a dick... the guy jumped outta his truck and was gonna kick my ass (he's a/b 4x bigger then me)... but his wife was passing by and I flagged her down, b/c I didn't get any cell phone signal...

Hmm i know here in KY that you can't get a ticket unless the officer witnesed the incident. So i'd check with local law enforcement, or state law enforcement. As for ppl that ride you ass you are nicer then i am i slow down to a crawl or i tap my brake a few time real quick to let them know get off my a**.

lol...I was kinda scared to open this thread because of the title :p

Thats pretty messed up. I don't know about your police/judicial system, but here you would get that thrown out immediately. Sorry to hear about that though.

^ROFL you sicko!


Man that totally fuckin' blows, sorry to hear about that guy being a dick man, oh well, hopefully you'll win and be able to fix your car.

I just got the police report a min ago... here's what the officer said (complete bullshit I assure you)... "... (he give location)... Vehicle 2 drove into the northbound lane to pass vehicle 1 as vehicle 1 crossed center line and applied brakes. Vehicle 2 collided with vehicle 1. On impact, vehicle 1 was forced onto right shoulder where it came to rest. Vehicle 2 stopped momentarily in roadway, but was moved onto right shoulder prior to trooper's arrival at scene. This collision was the culmination of an agressive driving event between these two vehicles which had been ongoing for approximately five miles."

Bullshit... when I get some time, I'll come back and refute his arguments... even the diagram he has on the report is f'ed up... it shows his vehicle ahead of mine, like I accelerated in front of him, then slammed on brakes in the left lane... and spun onto shoulder...

^ROFL you sicko!


Man that totally fuckin' blows, sorry to hear about that guy being a dick man, oh well, hopefully you'll win and be able to fix your car.


Sry Rocker... there's no fixing this... it'd be whole new rear quarter panels, new rear hatch, new rear trim, taillights, prolly suspension, new gas tank... it took out quite a big bite on my car... so always member... don't f'with them big ass 2500's...

Hmm i know here in KY that you can't get a ticket unless the officer witnesed the incident. So i'd check with local law enforcement, or state law enforcement. As for ppl that ride you ass you are nicer then i am i slow down to a crawl or i tap my brake a few time real quick to let them know get off my a**.
shit, I usually either leave them, or tap the brakes... this guy was wanting more than that though... he flashed his brights several times... and got beside me and started pulling forward, then he got back behind me and rode my ass some more...

advice...sue him. you will win. Like gateway said, if he hit your backend, he rearended you, its his fault. His insurance company will most likely offer you a settlement to keep it out of court. You should get in touch with some local law firms. If your going to go that route, tell your lawyer exactly what happened, dont lie.

advice...sue him. you will win. Like gateway said, if he hit your backend, he rearended you, its his fault. His insurance company will most likely offer you a settlement to keep it out of court. You should get in touch with some local law firms. If your going to go that route, tell your lawyer exactly what happened, dont lie.

Yes, I am looking to sue him now, his insurance is denying liability... and seeking money from me... the cop was lied to... but I have pictures of the scene... and I also have a pretty good lawyer... and a few people who know the cop (corrupt)... they said with his name on the ticket, it'd make things easier... and I have also used this lawyer several times b4... he's a hard-working lawyer and he knows I'm gonna be straight with him... but I will tell you... that a friend of mine had a ram 2500 turbo-diesel... tops out at 115... (speedo says 120)... and this guy was riding my ass at 110.... so he was pushing it... I woulda went faster, but 4th tops a/b 110 and I was tired of him riding my ass... he was so close, his grill was shining from my taillights...

thats fukd up man. hope you teach that prick a lesson.

hell yeah... I'm working on it... I'm definitely letting him pay my g/f's dr. bills... she's got a (bruised, we think) rotor cup in her shoulder, and what we hope is a bruised kidney... if not, that asshole will be paying for this for a long time... I think I may have also messed up my damn ankle... it's been bothering me since yesterday... I don't think I have whiplash though... b/c I wasn't that hard on the brakes... I know we were doing a helluva lot faster than that cop said we were though... he wrote down a/b 40... I hope his ass gets reprommanded too, b/c he was a dick to everyone involved... he even threatened to arrest my girlfriend if she didn't leave, and she was in my car when it happened...

This story dosent add up. It sounds real fishy.
First of all if he was riding your tail like you say there is no room to gain enough momentum to smash your car so hard.
Second of all if he got next to you, why not let him pass and be on his way?
why entice him?
I happen to know from first hand experience that those Turbo diesels are slow, how the fuck can you not outrun it in a 3000GT? I smoke those fat cows left and right!

If he wanted to hit you, let him hit you! he touches you and you sue his ass off.

Either way Im not calling BS on you, I just think there is something missing.
Im not gonna give you any advise but I will tell you what I would do in your case.
You have the police report right? it has his address! I would go burn his truck!

This story dosent add up. It sounds real fishy.
First of all if he was riding your tail like you say there is no room to gain enough momentum to smash your car so hard.
Second of all if he got next to you, why not let him pass and be on his way?
why entice him?
I happen to know from first hand experience that those Turbo diesels are slow, how the fuck can you not outrun it in a 3000GT? I smoke those fat cows left and right!

If he wanted to hit you, let him hit you! he touches you and you sue his ass off.

Either way Im not calling BS on you, I just think there is something missing.
Im not gonna give you any advise but I will tell you what I would do in your case.
You have the police report right? it has his address! I would go burn his truck!

ok, to address this one by one... he had enough room the last time... but he kept going... I didn't try to entice him... I was doing the speed limit, he got beside me like he wanted to race and slowed back down and got behind me... then flashed his brights... u gotta remember, I got some rice on my ride... I know that his truck is f'in slow... but it wasn't stock... I did leave him, several times... but I thought he'd get the picture and get off my ass... he did hit me... I'm working on the whole suing thing... but the officer was an asshole (I think they knew each other)... I thought a/b fucking w/ his stuff... but I'm gonna be straight up, at least until the whole court thing's over with... if not, then I'll borrow a car and toast his ass... but he knows my car...

I think I've got enough info to take him down, I'm just really paranoid, I'll fuck something up... I've never been in an accident... gotta remember, I'm only 19... my mom also happened to venture over top of a hypodermic needle that night... the tire was flat by lunch time the next day... I'm just trying to dig up shit on this guy right now... I wanna know a little more a/b him b4 I go headstrong with one or two arguments... plus there's a lot of other shit going on right now... so I'm left with very little time to think things through...

I'll just tell you one, my g/f moved outta parent's house... now I'm trying to help her get a car and have a place to stay, until then I go everyday and try to find her a way to school and work... then I start school on Monday (college)... so I've spent all week straightening that out... and I work full-time... damnit... too much...

Yes, I am looking to sue him now, his insurance is denying liability... and seeking money from me... the cop was lied to... but I have pictures of the scene... and I also have a pretty good lawyer... and a few people who know the cop (corrupt)... they said with his name on the ticket, it'd make things easier... and I have also used this lawyer several times b4... he's a hard-working lawyer and he knows I'm gonna be straight with him... but I will tell you... that a friend of mine had a ram 2500 turbo-diesel... tops out at 115... (speedo says 120)... and this guy was riding my ass at 110.... so he was pushing it... I woulda went faster, but 4th tops a/b 110 and I was tired of him riding my ass... he was so close, his grill was shining from my taillights...

Ive got a 2500 Turbo diesel, it does about 100 stock, but doesnt get there fast. If he was doing over 100 like you said then its most likely modified at which point top speed goes out the window. $400 and you gain 70hp and almost 200 fl/lbs of torque.

I happen to know from first hand experience that those Turbo diesels are slow, how the fuck can you not outrun it in a 3000GT? I smoke those fat cows left and right!


He is SOHC, and turbo diesels are slow stock (21 sec 1/4 mile), but they are very very easily modified to be much faster.

Intake, exhaust, 2 chips, and a bigger turbo will get you into the 13-14 second range.

Ive got a 2500 Turbo diesel, it does about 100 stock, but doesnt get there fast. If he was doing over 100 like you said then its most likely modified at which point top speed goes out the window. $400 and you gain 70hp and almost 200 fl/lbs of torque.

Yeah, most of the people around here that have TDs don't keep them stock... I've got a buddy who's pushing close to 500hp.... he's upgraded injectors and a turbo... prolly the MBC too, and an EGT gauge... I think he also had a chip/programmer...

Yeah, to my understanding, they are electronically-limited... but that's easily eliminated... I haven't been able to find out much a/b the truck he's driving... I know it's a 2002... he said he had cruise on... and I found a cruise control recall for the 2002's... which stated that the vehicles may not come out of cruise in time enough to prevent an accident... but I'm not too worried there... I looked over my pics tonight... I have assembled a/b 8 pics for my lawyer... and I have also duplicated them and circled key things that will swing the case in my favor...

but as far as my Stealth (and especially insurance) is concerned... it's totaled... it could prolly be straightened out, but with a lot of time and money... and I'm starting college and am broke already...

BTW as Talskiny said, I do have the SOHC... read my sig, that's the only mods that I got (that I know of...)...

Might want to also post this in the 'cars in general' section, under 'traffic violations' there are some good guys in there with some legal/insurance experience as well that maybe able to offer more good advice.

:chair: That's shitty to take your g/f on a 110 mph death ride. You should have slowed down to a crawl and let the jackass pass or get tired of f*ckin with you.

Thanks Igo... that's prolly a good idea... I didin't think of that... I do believe, after talking to my lawyer, I have enough evidence to prove myself innocent of fault in this case. We will not be using the whole story, just the closest events to the accident. If necessary, we will go abck and use the whole "tailgating/racing" accusation... but for now, there's enough evidence to show that I wasn't at fault, by way of the skid marks... I also have plenty of photographs that validate the location of the vehicles...

sry you feel that way loe... my g/f has been there with me when I used to race the vehicle on the track... sat on the sidelines and been in the vehicle as well..l. I know the limits of my vehicle, as well as the condition of the vehicle and tires and what-not... and apparently the brakes work...

The Dodge Ram 2500 Turbo diesel is bad luck. I drive one of those every day at work. Its slow but has lots of torque. I had an employee (who is now fired) put a wheelbarrel on the back of it without tying it down. I falls of on a highway (speed limit was only 40mph) and caused a three car pile up. My company is now being sued and I ended up with a $164 ticket (impeding traffic, spilling a load). However Im still working and the guy that put it on there is fired. My boss was even nice enough to pay the ticket. The only damage I saw out of it was a few points off my license and a bad record for my insurance.

I just hate TAILGATERs.... no matter what they're driving... freakin' A, I almost got hit on the way to work, an '01 Eclipse... kept tailgating and switching lanes behind me... I was switching and trying to get away... it really pissed me off...

Please keep us updated with any developments. I, for one, am very interested in how this ends up.

Please keep us updated with any developments. I, for one, am very interested in how this ends up.
That I will... I'm working alongside my lawyer and insurance company (trying to get the two to work cooperatively)... I'll let you know ASAP...

Mike, good luck with the case but I believe ioeman has a valid point. Please, please, please reconsider driving like that with someone else in your vehicle. The consequences FAR outweigh the benefits. In a split second, anything could go wrong. Just because you know the limits of your vehicle doesn't stop some freak accident from occuring. (i.e. a blown tire)

Anyways, best of luck to you.

Mike, good luck with the case but I believe ioeman has a valid point. Please, please, please reconsider driving like that with someone else in your vehicle. The consequences FAR outweigh the benefits. In a split second, anything could go wrong. Just because you know the limits of your vehicle doesn't stop some freak accident from occuring. (i.e. a blown tire)

Anyways, best of luck to you.

I understand, maybe it's just my young attitude towards things... and I've never had a tire blow out... I'm sure it's bound to happen one day though... I usually try to keep decent one's up there... cept I have a really bad one now... and I'm trying to leave it on until after this all gets over with (it's on the back...)

here's a pic of the car
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/MikelBolton/rear.jpg

Here's the skid marks, I was clearly not over the center:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/MikelBolton/Skidmarks1.jpg

AHA!... My insurance agent got up with me today... he went to go take pictures of the scene (like a week later, lol)... but he confirmed the location, then took his own photos, I sent him some, and he definitely said I wasn't at fault... he's gonna take my photos to the other insurance company and ask for a settlement. He said he don't think it would even have to go to court... if the other insurance company calls me up, he told me to tell them how it went down... so they know, and don't think it's fraud... he said they'll prolly pay for it... to keep away from a lawsuit, and because he was behind me...
Insurance agent was gonna talk to lawyer today, but he's off (lawyer) for the holiday... so I'll know a little more tomorrow...

I'm pretty sure they'll wanna get their own pictures of the car too... so I don't know if I should take my parts off of there or not... that's kinda been
bugging me... but I kinda wanna leave it the way it is for now...

I'll keep you guys updated when I find out more... Thanks for your support and advice

nice man. sounding good. yea, definitely dont touch the car until you get the all clear from your ins. guy.

hey, I got a few questions... maybe I should post a seperate thread or something... but it all happened after the wreck...

after I was hit, the exhaust note sounded different... even that night...
Now I was leaving work last Wed. and a spark plug blew outta the port. I didn't know that's what it was, but the car got really loud and cut-off... I thought head gasket, but it cranked right back up... I was in the middle of traffic, actually slowing down for a light)... and I took the car a/b an 1/8th of a mile, and pulled into a gas station... it cut off... so I called my mother, and had her on the way, I also called my professor and told him I wouldn't be able to make it.
I pop the hood... there was no smoke or anything... but I looked at the backside of the engine and noticed a plug wire hanging... plug still attached... it looked like the plug had been detonating...
(abridged) I replaced it in the parking lot. The car still made noise, I figured since it was only hand tightened it was going to... I get it home and tighten the plug all the way... but still makes that sound... The car runs, but has a terrible idle, is bogs down, runs really rich (exhaust in the form of smoke out the tailpipe, you can smell it while driving or riding behind)... and a loud sound...
last night I turned the car on... and popped the hood... there is no smoke, no oil gushing no gas, nothing... but I reached my hand around thebackside of the engine... and I can feel air coming from the middle spark plug port (or so it seems)... I'm not sure what this is... I thought maybe I had blown the exhaust manifold gasket, but I doubt that would make the car run rich, and I doubt that there would be air coming out of the spark plug area... someone suggested head gasket... it sounds like it could be, but the car still runs??? can u blow the gasket on one or two cylinders???...
BTW, my car sounds like it has a freakin' 8 in it now, aside from all that ticking...
What to do???

oh, and also... it feels like the car might be jumping timing some... it will get off and then back on... but it was a SOHC, so I wasn't worried a/b it until now.. could this be a possibility?

so you tapped your brakes and left tire marks on the road?

so you tapped your brakes and left tire marks on the road?

my tires didn't leave marks until the truck touched my car...

i had a 4cyl blow a head gasket and still run...with almost exactly those symptoms. As far as air coming from the plug port, i dont know. You gotta get in there to do the gasket anyways, so check it out. Maybe the plugs not tight enough of maybe its stripped???

another thought. have you checked your exhaust over for breaks? if he slammed you that hard it may be broken anywhere from where the manifold bolts to the head, all the way down to the muffler.

no I haven't checked the exhaust... I've looked underneath the car, it looks fine... but this is right on the backside of the engine so it seems... I don't really feel like throwing too much time into the car... nor money... as it's a/b to be totalled... I was just wondering if anyone could tell me pretty much for sure... and if there were any quick fixes... plus 8MPG sucks

Well an exhaust leak would make your car sound louder (I've had 2) also if it is near any o2 sensors, it could be causing some of hte idling/running rich issues. Air could be escaping unmetered or causing excess turbulence...anything like that could screw up the o2 sensor readings and throw the ECU into a 'constantly compensating' mode. I'd check under the car for exhaust leaks. Half the time you can actually see the exhaust rippling out if you have enough light.

I may do some of that this weekend, I've just been really stretched for cash, so I've been working a second job on the weekends... and college... no time for it all... I'll check it though, hopefully it's nothing but a rear exhaust manifold gasket or something... but I doubt it... the air is coming from around the spark plug ports, but oddly enough, the middle plug, I blew the one next to it... so I'm not really sure at this point...