So sad....
Naka7a
01-03-2006, 08:56 AM
i just bought a fine compound today....and i applied on my z-tuned....i thought it might give it a shine.....but it didn't .....what should i do next?.....sigh....
cyberkid
01-03-2006, 09:11 AM
i just bought a fine compound today....and i applied on my z-tuned....i thought it might give it a shine.....but it didn't .....what should i do next?.....sigh....
what type of paint and color did you use? did you use a more rough compound before you used the fine compound?( Tamiya has 3 'levels')
what type of paint and color did you use? did you use a more rough compound before you used the fine compound?( Tamiya has 3 'levels')
Vric
01-03-2006, 09:31 AM
Buying it isn't the only step. and Compound isn't a miracle thing. If a paint job is bad, it will still be bad.
Here is some reading
Polishing A Body (http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Polishing_A_Body)
What order do I do all the painting and polishing steps (http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=What_order_do_I_do_all_the_paintin g_and_polishing_steps%3F)
Compound (http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Compound)
Here is some reading
Polishing A Body (http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Polishing_A_Body)
What order do I do all the painting and polishing steps (http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=What_order_do_I_do_all_the_paintin g_and_polishing_steps%3F)
Compound (http://www.scalewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Compound)
KTem
01-03-2006, 09:32 AM
If you used a metallic, did you clear it before compounding?
ales
01-03-2006, 09:34 AM
i just bought a fine compound today....and i applied on my z-tuned....i thought it might give it a shine.....but it didn't .....what should i do next?.....sigh....
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you. :shakehead :disappoin
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you. :shakehead :disappoin
MPWR
01-03-2006, 12:38 PM
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you. :shakehead :disappoin
Wow, you can really tell when the holiday season has ended around here! :evillol:
Wow, you can really tell when the holiday season has ended around here! :evillol:
Vric
01-03-2006, 01:09 PM
Wow, you can really tell when the holiday season has ended around here! :evillol:
:evillol: Where is the love ? :evillol:
:evillol: Where is the love ? :evillol:
tardster
01-03-2006, 03:10 PM
:evillol: Where is the love ? :evillol:
I'm telling ya...... LOL
I'm telling ya...... LOL
arknok784
01-03-2006, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ales
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you.
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His concerns are true... Honestly, it is getting annoying when people do not read FAQs or look things up elsewhere. Not to be too harsh, but as a LAST RESORT post a new thread for your question. Many answers to countless questions are all over this forum. Look, don't just say you "can't find it." As for the question asked, I have no clue honestly...... :evillol:
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Originally Posted by ales
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you.
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His concerns are true... Honestly, it is getting annoying when people do not read FAQs or look things up elsewhere. Not to be too harsh, but as a LAST RESORT post a new thread for your question. Many answers to countless questions are all over this forum. Look, don't just say you "can't find it." As for the question asked, I have no clue honestly...... :evillol:
cyberkid
01-03-2006, 05:07 PM
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you. :shakehead :disappoin
Wow, you can really tell when the holiday season has ended around here! :evillol:
I'm telling ya...... LOL
hrm... must be comin up to Valentine's pretty soon... all that LOVE. :evillol:
Wow, you can really tell when the holiday season has ended around here! :evillol:
I'm telling ya...... LOL
hrm... must be comin up to Valentine's pretty soon... all that LOVE. :evillol:
cyberkid
01-03-2006, 05:10 PM
As for the question asked, I have no clue honestly...... :evillol:
considering the facts that he gave us... who would :screwy:
considering the facts that he gave us... who would :screwy:
RallyRaider
01-03-2006, 05:40 PM
.....what should i do next?.....
Try something else. Could be as simple as using a more abrasive meduim before returning to the fine compound or drastic as a full strip and repaint. You're the craftsman, have a go! :)
Try something else. Could be as simple as using a more abrasive meduim before returning to the fine compound or drastic as a full strip and repaint. You're the craftsman, have a go! :)
cinqster
01-03-2006, 07:19 PM
hrm... must be comin up to Valentine's pretty soon... all that LOVE. :evillol:
Harsh, but fair, I thought!
:smokin: :grinno:
Harsh, but fair, I thought!
:smokin: :grinno:
speedphreak
01-03-2006, 09:04 PM
Use the FINISH compound!!!! DUH! lol...seriously, Fine compound will not give you shine....Its the finishing compound or cleaner wax that will make it shine.
-Chris
-Chris
Naka7a
01-03-2006, 10:52 PM
thank you to some ppl for your advice...fyi..i do read the faq...but do u think that a first timer would understand that?....i bet that u couldn't understand the principle of quantum physics at once if i just give you the notes and equations right?...i'm just asking for help here.... :frown: anyways, thanks alot....and i will continue with this hobby
D_LaMz
01-03-2006, 11:02 PM
hrm... must be comin up to Valentine's pretty soon... all that LOVE. :evillol:
LOL wait until the summer gets here! :evillol:
LOL wait until the summer gets here! :evillol:
hirofkd
01-03-2006, 11:13 PM
thank you to some ppl for your advice...fyi..i do read the faq...but do u think that a first timer would understand that?....i bet that u couldn't understand the principle of quantum physics at once if i just give you the notes and equations right?...i'm just asking for help here.... :frown: anyways, thanks alot....and i will continue with this hobby
>> Naka7a
If your paint has been ruined, you're left with few options, either to add another layer of silver or strip the paint and do it all over. (Search by "how to strip paint") Either way, take it as a learning process and don't feel bad about it.
If the paint is thin and details are still crisp, just add another layer of silver. The problem is you can't polish metallic directly, because the metal particles will most likely stain the surface and it will ruin your paint job.
In order to bring a truly rich and wet mirror-like surface on metallic colors, you'll need a clear coat. (again run a search by "clear coat" to learn more)
Tamiya's TS13 clear spray is what I use, but it's synthetic lacquer, and its solvent might attack the underlying paint. Some others suggest safer acrylic paints.
If you decide to use TS13, the key is to splay several coats lightly at each time. That way, the solvent will evaporate before it begins attacking the previous coat, and it's a standard practice for clear coating with TS13.
After successfully building up a layer of clear (probably need 3 to 6 light coats), check the surface. If it's relatively smooth, follow P-Man's article you must have already found.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t89313.html
If the surface is bumpy, you'll need to sand before polishing. Get Tamiya's finishing paper "Fine" (a set of 1200, 1500 and 2000 grit sand papers) and follow this article I wrote.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=578999&postcount=22
Good luck.
>> Naka7a
If your paint has been ruined, you're left with few options, either to add another layer of silver or strip the paint and do it all over. (Search by "how to strip paint") Either way, take it as a learning process and don't feel bad about it.
If the paint is thin and details are still crisp, just add another layer of silver. The problem is you can't polish metallic directly, because the metal particles will most likely stain the surface and it will ruin your paint job.
In order to bring a truly rich and wet mirror-like surface on metallic colors, you'll need a clear coat. (again run a search by "clear coat" to learn more)
Tamiya's TS13 clear spray is what I use, but it's synthetic lacquer, and its solvent might attack the underlying paint. Some others suggest safer acrylic paints.
If you decide to use TS13, the key is to splay several coats lightly at each time. That way, the solvent will evaporate before it begins attacking the previous coat, and it's a standard practice for clear coating with TS13.
After successfully building up a layer of clear (probably need 3 to 6 light coats), check the surface. If it's relatively smooth, follow P-Man's article you must have already found.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t89313.html
If the surface is bumpy, you'll need to sand before polishing. Get Tamiya's finishing paper "Fine" (a set of 1200, 1500 and 2000 grit sand papers) and follow this article I wrote.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=578999&postcount=22
Good luck.
supra86
01-03-2006, 11:44 PM
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. You see, the rule is that if it doesn't work the first time (even if you have done everything correctly like it's laid out, for example, in the FAQ section of this forum, which I kind of doubt you did), then you and your its are jinxed and you will never be able to achieve good results building scale models. There is no need to consider rereading the descriptions of procedures that work for other people and then try again, there is no need to double check if you have done everything correctly. Heck, there is even no need to try to explain what you've done and what the problems are so that other people might help you out! Although the last one should probably be used when the previous options have been exhausted, but hey, that only applies to modellers who achieved acceptable or so results on their first try, so of course it does not apply to you - there's no chance for you. :shakehead :disappoin
Your an asshole, people make mistakes, people learn form them, we arent just born knowing everything, and we can't all be infallible jackasses like you. You should never discourage someone or put them down just because they make a mistake. If you want to ban me for being honest, fine, I dont need to hang around a place where the people in charge misuse there athority anyways.
Your an asshole, people make mistakes, people learn form them, we arent just born knowing everything, and we can't all be infallible jackasses like you. You should never discourage someone or put them down just because they make a mistake. If you want to ban me for being honest, fine, I dont need to hang around a place where the people in charge misuse there athority anyways.
ales
01-03-2006, 11:52 PM
Pfff! Someone has to be once in a while, and I'm not always one. Don't see you jumping in and helping him out, and if you look beyond the sarcasm you'll see that I actually gave what I think is reasonable advice, main one being to explain the problem further. Most people here are old and smart enough to see that, apparently you only see the asshole part. Good on you!
supra86
01-04-2006, 12:14 AM
Well sorry if I don’t find calling a person a failure a great way to give advice. And as for not rushing to give help, anything that I have to say that would actually help him has already been said by others, it doesn’t add much to say the something someone else has.
MPWR
01-04-2006, 12:25 AM
Pfff! Someone has to be once in a while, and I'm not always one.
Are you implying that some of us have been slacking off in our asshole duties lately? I hate to think that our standards may be slipping. :evillol:
Jeez, next we'll be accused of not picking enough nits.... :disappoin
Are you implying that some of us have been slacking off in our asshole duties lately? I hate to think that our standards may be slipping. :evillol:
Jeez, next we'll be accused of not picking enough nits.... :disappoin
ales
01-04-2006, 12:27 AM
Guess it's one of those "take it or leave it" types of things: if you see the intent behind the form - good for you, if you don't - tough. Here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3693948&postcount=3) is another example of a sarcastic/ironic remark. Could have been worded differently, wouldn't you agree? Same with my post, and I chose to leave it up the the recepient to desypher it, of which you didn't do a particularly good job, certainly less so than the author of the thread.
bvia
01-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Give up the hobby is your only option I'm afraid. - there's no chance for you. :shakehead :disappoin
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!
supra86
01-04-2006, 01:03 AM
well, I know when I'm beat. Think we can just say where cool and let the whole thing drop.
Buy the way, sorry to Thegs if I came off as a jerk.
Buy the way, sorry to Thegs if I came off as a jerk.
freakmech
01-04-2006, 01:22 AM
Pussies.....
:evillol:
:evillol:
tardster
01-04-2006, 01:52 AM
Well this was all very interesting. See I knew there was some love out there... LOL
supra86
01-04-2006, 02:18 AM
Pussies.....
:evillol:
:thefinger
:evillol:
:thefinger
klutz_100
01-04-2006, 04:27 AM
Thank God for assholes, pussies, jerks (not to mention Italeri instruction sheets and Revell decal placement guides which definately fit ion the same category :) ) - you all make life so much more colourful and interesting from time to time :bigthumb:
I love you ALL!
Happy New Year
I love you ALL!
Happy New Year
gionc
01-04-2006, 06:51 AM
Thank God for assholes, pussies, jerks (not to mention Italeri instruction sheets and Revell decal placement guides which definately fit ion the same category :) ) - you all make life so much more colourful and interesting from time to time :bigthumb:
I love you ALL!
Happy New Year
happy new yer too, steve, looks like '06 start burning some newbee too :evillol:
eh eh I love this board every day more: I really like the Ales's sarcasm and understand it also with my poor english: even better than "check FAQ" :grinyes:
ohhh: this message isn't sarcastic :licka:
I love you ALL!
Happy New Year
happy new yer too, steve, looks like '06 start burning some newbee too :evillol:
eh eh I love this board every day more: I really like the Ales's sarcasm and understand it also with my poor english: even better than "check FAQ" :grinyes:
ohhh: this message isn't sarcastic :licka:
rrutherford
01-04-2006, 10:38 AM
happy new yer too, steve, looks like '06 start burning some newbee too :evillol:
eh eh I love this board every day more: I really like the Ales's sarcasm and understand it also with my poor english: even better than "check FAQ" :grinyes:
ohhh: this message isn't sarcastic :licka:
:rolleyes:
:eek7:
is this an adult forum? pulling the piss is one thing, maturity is another.
I was thinking that any new people on here just may be discouraged from participating. Fair comments about FAQ, but ??????
eh eh I love this board every day more: I really like the Ales's sarcasm and understand it also with my poor english: even better than "check FAQ" :grinyes:
ohhh: this message isn't sarcastic :licka:
:rolleyes:
:eek7:
is this an adult forum? pulling the piss is one thing, maturity is another.
I was thinking that any new people on here just may be discouraged from participating. Fair comments about FAQ, but ??????
MidMazar
01-04-2006, 10:52 AM
i love these forums, someone close this one quick.
Vric
01-04-2006, 11:05 AM
wow.. a Flaming war and it's not even the summer !
Naka7a
01-04-2006, 11:33 AM
come on guys, don't fight...i'm sorry for asking a stupid question....anyways...i got help already....so thanks alot....and, btw....i did read the faqs first, i'm not stupid, i used up a lot of money on this... :headshake
RallyRaider
01-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Well since the question is answered, time to lock this one away and hope it disappears into the great big AF bit bucket in the sky...
Some steam has been let off and normal friendly service may resume. :)
Some steam has been let off and normal friendly service may resume. :)
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