4gen prelude question

hey guys, i have a few questions about the prelude. this is regarding the 4gen preludes. in 1995, it said somewhere that the si 4ws got axed. does that mean the si doesnt come with 4ws in 1995? does the vtec come with 4ws? which years did the si not come with 4ws? what is 4ws and what does it do? does any of the preludes come with atts or is that just the type s? i appreciate if you could clarify this for me. thanx in advance :)

I dunno about the 4th gen Prelude and the 4WS but the 5th gen Prelude Type SH and the JDM Prelude Type-S both have got ATTS stock.

i think youre right.. i have a 95 prelude si but never have i seen 4ws.. did you get your lude yet?? you i'll sell mine to you.. its very similar to the wings west one you got in your sig.

i might consider buying it from you. i would have to know more information about it. pm me about the car and how much your asking for it. thanx

and moderator, if ur there, plz answer my original question cuz i know you know the answer and u give the best answers!

4ws is 4 wheel steering. it doesn't kick in until a certain speed, but it makes it handle hella good. i believe the si comes with it, but i'm not real sure (i don't usually keep up with preludes anymore. sorry) and the si does not have VTEC, only the VTEC model has it (duh) i don't know how peeps always get that messed up. the si has a 2.3L and the VTEC has a 2.2L

good luck gettin your car. before i got my integ, i came really close to gettin a black '95 VTEC, but that never went through

i wasnt asking if the si has vtec. i was only concerned about the 4ws thing. i was asking if the vtec model has the 4ws aswell. i guess it should since its a higher model. i know that vtec comes with vtec and si doesnt. it said on a website that the 1995 si 4ws got axed. i guess that means that the si 4ws model got axed and the si's come with 4ws. im not sure though. and does any of the 4 gen preludes come with atts?

atts didnt come til the 5th gen

try

prelude.vtec.net


they got the info there..

Originally posted by imp0rted1
try

prelude.vtec.net


they got the info there..

thats the place i actually looked at and had questions about. they said the si 4ws got axed, what does that mean?

last year to get aws is 95 .. i was looking around at hondaprelude.com
there are some listings for 95 si with aws.. so thats what i figure...

aws? its called 4ws. is that what u meant?

4WS = 4 Wheel Steering, AWS = All Wheel Steering
They both mean the same thing unless of course you have 8 wheels on your car. :D

It only came out in the Si Model from 92 on which was electronic 4ws but I am not sure when it finished. I think it only lasted a couple of years, the reason being that for the extra parking ability of the 4ws it didnt add up to the cost of installation and the sales werent there. All it does is ingauge the rear wheels under say 10mph hr to allow for better movement ie (parking) at high speed the rear wheels are locked so there is no better performance than standard. Plus there is more weight.
Atts is only in the 5th gen ludes. but unless you are at the track its not needed.

:flash:

Could it be that the 4WS is engaged full time? I know on the freeway we have bumps in the road caused by the compression brakes on big trucks, and my ass-end skirts around quite a bit because of the 4WS. I don't know if that is because it is on, or because it can turn... Any insight?

4WS is engaged full time. It doesn't matter how fast or slow you are going.

Thanks for the info greatness, where'd you find that out from? Just common knowledge? Does Honda Motor Co. put out an official site which displays the specs on earlier model years of their cars?

no prob,
I just picked it all up here and there. Honda doesn't have a site that displays specs of past models. But if you search around there might be one out there.

im a lilttle confused :bloated: does 4ws come on the 95 model and does it really matter if u have it? what will it help? please address my questions in the first post.

Myst,

No, 94 was the last year it was offered. And having owned one with it I can tell you it makes a big difference in the way it handles. I live in the mountains and you could tell that difference on curvy roads. It was also great for parking. I could do things like make a u-turn on a two lane road as long as it was a little wider than normal.

so would a 94 vtec have 2ws?

4WS was offered on a 4th gen from 92 to 94s on Si only. In japan they actually offer it on the VTEC model. 4WS is always working. It just depends on how fast you are doing. I think but doon't quote me, that 30miles and under the wheels in the back turn the oppositedirection of the from the front ones and above 30 they turn the same way. Like I said I am not sure about the mph.

Thanx riptide, thats basically what i wanted to know this whole tread.

Hoped that answered you question. Like I said though, not exactly sure on the exact speed but I think it states it in the owners manual. Glad to help.

does it really make a difference if you have 4ws or not? does it help you alot or no?

YES! It makes a big difference. Wish I still had it.

damn that sux. i want the vtec model to have it too. i want the vtec instead of the si.... im still gonna try and get a vtec instead of a si if i have the chance but if i cant get a vtec, then im gonna go for a 94 si 4ws. hopefully, i will be able to find one.

What I did was swapped a JDM VTEC into my SI/4WS so now it is a VTEC/4WS.

Yeah its in the manual, anything below 18MPH(30 KHM) they turn opposite, above 18 they turn the same depending on the speed depends on how much they turn. I guess I was thinking 30 km when I stated earlier.

Ok, I haven't had a 4WS. Haven't even driven one. I know the principles behind it, though. The wheels do this at low speeds:

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As you would imagine, this helps with parking and making U-turns, as it effectively shortens the turning radius. However, at high speeds, the wheels do this:

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What this does is makes high speed lane changes and the like much more snappy...instead of having the front wheels *pull* the car into another lane, all 4 wheels are actively seeking that other lane. Very cool idea, but I think it would take a lot of getting used to. I would *love* to drive one of these in Solo II competition, though! :D

I *do* have a '95 VTEC...I would say that VTEC is more important than 4WS. The extra power is quite nice to have, and it has actually helped me keep up with (and beat) all sorts of cars in competition. The 4WS might also help, but I don't think it is more important than the nice VTEC kick-in-the-chest. Just my humble opinion, of course; take it however you like. Good luck!