Inconsiderate F\/ck$
Jet-Lee
12-30-2005, 04:35 PM
A dude was weaving through traffic on his bike, pulled a wheelie, lost it and broke his leg, bad, along with other injuries. No one else was hurt, or touched, by anything.
On another forum, it is being said that he deserved it. HOW THE FUCK DID HE DESERVE TO GET HIS LEG SNAPPED IN HALF?!!! Sure, maybe he deserved to learn his bike priveleges, but his leg?!
Don't even start the shit of, "Well had he done something slightly different and it caused your family to be in the hospital, you'd think different."
Uhhh, no. Shutup.
My brother-in-law was just involved in a car accident. He's not good. He was a passenger in a Jeep Cherokee when the driver took a corner too fast. When the Jeep started to roll, she overcorrected into a TREE. He already has a brain tumor, he got a concussion, bruised ribs, and broken ankle. She got a broken femur. Another girl in the Jeep, 10 years old, got a crushed pelvis.
Do I think the driver deserved the broken femur? No. Do I sympathy for her injuries? No. Do I hope she makes a full and fast recovery? Yes.
My family is in the hypothetical situation, so don't bitch about me about "If your family was blah blah blah."
If I'm dying with cancer, I don't want any sympathy from any of those sons of bitches. They can all fucking rot in hell, as far as I'm concerned, saying someone "deserved" their injuries.
On another forum, it is being said that he deserved it. HOW THE FUCK DID HE DESERVE TO GET HIS LEG SNAPPED IN HALF?!!! Sure, maybe he deserved to learn his bike priveleges, but his leg?!
Don't even start the shit of, "Well had he done something slightly different and it caused your family to be in the hospital, you'd think different."
Uhhh, no. Shutup.
My brother-in-law was just involved in a car accident. He's not good. He was a passenger in a Jeep Cherokee when the driver took a corner too fast. When the Jeep started to roll, she overcorrected into a TREE. He already has a brain tumor, he got a concussion, bruised ribs, and broken ankle. She got a broken femur. Another girl in the Jeep, 10 years old, got a crushed pelvis.
Do I think the driver deserved the broken femur? No. Do I sympathy for her injuries? No. Do I hope she makes a full and fast recovery? Yes.
My family is in the hypothetical situation, so don't bitch about me about "If your family was blah blah blah."
If I'm dying with cancer, I don't want any sympathy from any of those sons of bitches. They can all fucking rot in hell, as far as I'm concerned, saying someone "deserved" their injuries.
TexasF355F1
12-30-2005, 05:23 PM
Sorry to hear about your bro-in-law. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
96Civ
12-30-2005, 05:25 PM
Well, everyone knows the dangers of being on a motorcycle, but it was his own choice to push it to the limit and now he is suffering the consequences. As far as putting passengers in danger or other people on the road, that to me should be up there with murder.
I do hope they all recover well, but the driver of that jeep just discusts me.
I do hope they all recover well, but the driver of that jeep just discusts me.
Jet-Lee
12-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Well, everyone knows the dangers of being on a motorcycle, but it was his own choice to push it to the limit and now he is suffering the consequences. As far as putting passengers in danger or other people on the road, that to me should be up there with murder.
I do hope they all recover well, but the driver of that jeep just discusts me.
I agree with you, he is paying the consequences, but my problem is with people saying he "deserves" what he got. How can people say that others "deserve" bodily harm and to be put in the hospital, in such a way. The person already realizes what they did wrong, and that it was stupid, and they are suffering the consequences.
I do hope they all recover well, but the driver of that jeep just discusts me.
I agree with you, he is paying the consequences, but my problem is with people saying he "deserves" what he got. How can people say that others "deserve" bodily harm and to be put in the hospital, in such a way. The person already realizes what they did wrong, and that it was stupid, and they are suffering the consequences.
mike1224
12-30-2005, 07:19 PM
sometimes yes i'll say that someone deserved something for being stupid, but injury isn't one of those things. If you woulda said that the biker ended up getting pulled over by a cop, and was given multiple tickets I'd say yeah he effing deserved it, but injury is a lot different. I wish the best for your family and bro-in-law
03cavPA
12-30-2005, 07:54 PM
Jet, sorry to hear about the injuries.
Unless anyone else here has lost a leg on a motorcycle, I claim expert opinion status. LOL
27 years ago, I did something stupid on my bike. Crashed into the back of a car, lost my left leg above the knee, and broke my right hip. It was my fault, I was going too fast, not paying enough attention to traffic in front of me. Came over a slight rise, and blam, there was a line of traffic stopped dead.
I was just plain effing stupid, and I paid the price. I made a really bad mistake. If people think I deserved it, hey, that's up to them to think that way. I don't suggest anyone here is saying I deserved it. Sounds like you guys are looking at it pretty sensibly. I just wanted to chime in and offer a perspective from this side of the injury.
No one else was injured. I'm the one who has to get out of bed every day for the rest of my life and be reminded of my screwup every time I put on that prosthesis.
We all make mistakes, and we pay for them. Some of us pay more than others. That's the way it is. Not a single one of us is perfect.
Unless anyone else here has lost a leg on a motorcycle, I claim expert opinion status. LOL
27 years ago, I did something stupid on my bike. Crashed into the back of a car, lost my left leg above the knee, and broke my right hip. It was my fault, I was going too fast, not paying enough attention to traffic in front of me. Came over a slight rise, and blam, there was a line of traffic stopped dead.
I was just plain effing stupid, and I paid the price. I made a really bad mistake. If people think I deserved it, hey, that's up to them to think that way. I don't suggest anyone here is saying I deserved it. Sounds like you guys are looking at it pretty sensibly. I just wanted to chime in and offer a perspective from this side of the injury.
No one else was injured. I'm the one who has to get out of bed every day for the rest of my life and be reminded of my screwup every time I put on that prosthesis.
We all make mistakes, and we pay for them. Some of us pay more than others. That's the way it is. Not a single one of us is perfect.
HighOctaneNOSUser
12-30-2005, 08:38 PM
Agree'd, doesn't sound as bad, but recently I broke my finger and had to have surgery on it to get it fixxed. Stupid, but not as stupid as HOW I broke it. ONe of my best friends simply walked into me. People were telling me, afterwards, I should blame him, blah blah, it's his fault. I don't think it is, I mean, he can't help that he's human, he needs to A) Walks and he can B) Make mistakes. Big deal, they don't deserve anything.
imtheoneandonlyD
12-31-2005, 03:15 AM
I say if the guy was weaving in and out of traffic being an idiot then yes he does deserve it. Play with fire your gonna get burned. Its not a secret.
WickedNYCowboy
12-31-2005, 12:03 PM
I feel for your brother in law. But people make stupid choices and do stupid things. There are consequences for that. They guy on the motorcycle happen to get his leg snapped in half.
MonsterBengt
12-31-2005, 12:43 PM
since that guy didn't hurt anyone, it doesn't realy matter how he got hurt IMO.. could be any accident.. the pain remains, and he wont know if you're feeling pity for him or not so thats all just stupid..
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v10_viper
12-31-2005, 12:59 PM
I say if the guy was weaving in and out of traffic being an idiot then yes he does deserve it. Play with fire your gonna get burned. Its not a secret.
If the guy is a moron and does stupid things all the time, then yes he partially deserves it. But if he's a good moto rider and generally a smart person than he prolly doesn't deserve it, just got that bad luck.
If the guy is a moron and does stupid things all the time, then yes he partially deserves it. But if he's a good moto rider and generally a smart person than he prolly doesn't deserve it, just got that bad luck.
-Jayson-
12-31-2005, 01:53 PM
not gonna say he deserved it, now if he injured someone else, then for sure i was say he deserved it and maybe a little more.
But if your gonna play with fire, you better be prepared to get burned. Its never a question of if something will happen, its always a question of when something will happen.
But if your gonna play with fire, you better be prepared to get burned. Its never a question of if something will happen, its always a question of when something will happen.
imtheoneandonlyD
12-31-2005, 02:13 PM
If the guy is a moron and does stupid things all the time, then yes he partially deserves it. But if he's a good moto rider and generally a smart person than he prolly doesn't deserve it, just got that bad luck.
I dont care if he is the safest/smartest guy in the world 99% of the time. When he is dicking around for that 1% and gets hurt he deserves it. Now if he was being safe as in NOT weaving in and out of traffic and doing wheelies thats a different story. He WAS therefore good i hope his leg hurts like shit and it taught him something.
I dont care if he is the safest/smartest guy in the world 99% of the time. When he is dicking around for that 1% and gets hurt he deserves it. Now if he was being safe as in NOT weaving in and out of traffic and doing wheelies thats a different story. He WAS therefore good i hope his leg hurts like shit and it taught him something.
clawhammer
12-31-2005, 03:58 PM
For the biker, it's not so much as he deserved it, but he knew that he was taking a risk by weaving in traffic and doing wheelies, and I'm sure that he knew what COULD happen. In this case it did happen, but none of us are God, so we can't say he deserved it. He was taking a risk, and shit happened.
BP2K2Max
12-31-2005, 06:18 PM
I dont care if he is the safest/smartest guy in the world 99% of the time. When he is dicking around for that 1% and gets hurt he deserves it. Now if he was being safe as in NOT weaving in and out of traffic and doing wheelies thats a different story. He WAS therefore good i hope his leg hurts like shit and it taught him something.
i think it's wrong to say he deserved it. remember what happened to hypsi87? it's the same type of situation.
i think it's wrong to say he deserved it. remember what happened to hypsi87? it's the same type of situation.
travis712
12-31-2005, 08:51 PM
I hate how people view bikers. On my way to work this summer, a bike on a ~03 gixxer crashed in the middle of the road. It was a slower speed crash probably like 35 mph. He crashed in the middle of the road and people were going AROUND him. Pissed me of so much that people are so inconsiderate to people. Sorry to hear about your bro in law.
2.2 Straight six
01-01-2006, 07:30 AM
yea, i dont know how people can say he deserved it, it's not like he'd gone an done something to them. i think he learned his lesson but i dont think he deserved the injury.
like with what travis said, my sister came off her bike down the road from here an no one stopped to help her, they all drove around her. she wasnt driving dangerously, she just lost grip on the rear tyre an the thing slipped. it disgusts me how people jut drive around with the mentaility "it's not my problem"
like with what travis said, my sister came off her bike down the road from here an no one stopped to help her, they all drove around her. she wasnt driving dangerously, she just lost grip on the rear tyre an the thing slipped. it disgusts me how people jut drive around with the mentaility "it's not my problem"
MonsterBengt
01-01-2006, 10:58 AM
would you class "i think he deserved it" the same as "Im glad he got himself injured" ?
2.2 Straight six
01-01-2006, 12:08 PM
not really, although im sure some people feel that way. i think by "he deserved it" they're saying he did something stupid and he should be injured because he did something stupid. but "im glad he got himself injured" implies that they enjoyed him getting hurt. im sure that some of them didnt gain any sort of pleasure from seeing him injured but think that he should be punished with the said broken leg.
Jet-Lee
01-03-2006, 11:46 AM
Alright, I've been to his room and talked to him, and the people riding with him.
He was catching up to the group after leaving lunch, is why he was "weaving" in and out. When he wrecked, he had just gotten on the gas to move up a position in the line, when a good gust of wind twisted his front wheel. Tank slap started and down he went. All the other riders confirmed this.
I believe this story 100%, as the wind(during that week) was strong enough that I ahd to hold my steering wheel at a 45-90º angle while goin down the freeway. It was insane.
Now, did he "deserve" it? Was he really such a dumbass for trying to catch up to his friends after lunch?
Those that think he whole heartedly deserved his injuries, I hope the next time you go 2mph over the limit, your insurance skyrockets, for one reason or another, cause you were "stupid and dumb" for speeding and being reckless.
He was catching up to the group after leaving lunch, is why he was "weaving" in and out. When he wrecked, he had just gotten on the gas to move up a position in the line, when a good gust of wind twisted his front wheel. Tank slap started and down he went. All the other riders confirmed this.
I believe this story 100%, as the wind(during that week) was strong enough that I ahd to hold my steering wheel at a 45-90º angle while goin down the freeway. It was insane.
Now, did he "deserve" it? Was he really such a dumbass for trying to catch up to his friends after lunch?
Those that think he whole heartedly deserved his injuries, I hope the next time you go 2mph over the limit, your insurance skyrockets, for one reason or another, cause you were "stupid and dumb" for speeding and being reckless.
2.2 Straight six
01-03-2006, 12:26 PM
i know my dad's been in a few motorbike accident so i can sypathise with him, and i know that once you've got tank-slap its hard to stop it, the only way to stop tank-slap is to go faster. dont think he deserved it at all, especially since it was tank-slap and not the fact he was doing something he shouldn't.
imtheoneandonlyD
01-03-2006, 01:58 PM
Those that think he whole heartedly deserved his injuries, I hope the next time you go 2mph over the limit, your insurance skyrockets, for one reason or another, cause you were "stupid and dumb" for speeding and being reckless.
Its to bad that going 2 mph over isnt considered reckless, and weaving in and out of traffic is. If i do go "2" mph over and happen to get in an accident and my insurance goes up you can bet i wont be whining on a message board about it. Because i would deserve it. But because he was on a bike and got hurts its totally different and everyone should feel sorry for him? I dont think so, he was weaving in and out of traffic (reckless) so i dont feel one bit of sympathy for him.
Its to bad that going 2 mph over isnt considered reckless, and weaving in and out of traffic is. If i do go "2" mph over and happen to get in an accident and my insurance goes up you can bet i wont be whining on a message board about it. Because i would deserve it. But because he was on a bike and got hurts its totally different and everyone should feel sorry for him? I dont think so, he was weaving in and out of traffic (reckless) so i dont feel one bit of sympathy for him.
Jet-Lee
01-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Its to bad that going 2 mph over isnt considered reckless, and weaving in and out of traffic is. If i do go "2" mph over and happen to get in an accident and my insurance goes up you can bet i wont be whining on a message board about it. Because i would deserve it. But because he was on a bike and got hurts its totally different and everyone should feel sorry for him? I dont think so, he was weaving in and out of traffic (reckless) so i dont feel one bit of sympathy for him.
He didn't whine on a message board about it. He's still in the hospital getting xrays, mri's, and whatnot.
I'm complaining about people not noticing the difference between giving sympathy and saying they deserve it, then saying someone deserves bodily injury when they did nothing to hurt you. If you're not affected by what happened, then you have no right to say what the person does or does not deserve, because you were not involved.
He didn't whine on a message board about it. He's still in the hospital getting xrays, mri's, and whatnot.
I'm complaining about people not noticing the difference between giving sympathy and saying they deserve it, then saying someone deserves bodily injury when they did nothing to hurt you. If you're not affected by what happened, then you have no right to say what the person does or does not deserve, because you were not involved.
travis712
01-03-2006, 03:09 PM
You don't hafto be ulta sympathetic to him, but you can be human and feel for him. If you snapped your leg on a bike trying to catch up to your buds you wouldn't want people to look at you as being a reckless driver and such. I will say though, if the wind was that bad, they probably should've chosen a different day to go riding.
imtheoneandonlyD
01-03-2006, 10:19 PM
He didn't whine on a message board about it. He's still in the hospital getting xrays, mri's, and whatnot.
I'm complaining about people not noticing the difference between giving sympathy and saying they deserve it, then saying someone deserves bodily injury when they did nothing to hurt you. If you're not affected by what happened, then you have no right to say what the person does or does not deserve, because you were not involved.
You took the whining comment wrong, i was talking about if i was in the situation i described, not the bikers.
I'm complaining about people not noticing the difference between giving sympathy and saying they deserve it, then saying someone deserves bodily injury when they did nothing to hurt you. If you're not affected by what happened, then you have no right to say what the person does or does not deserve, because you were not involved.
You took the whining comment wrong, i was talking about if i was in the situation i described, not the bikers.
Jet-Lee
01-04-2006, 09:37 AM
I will say though, if the wind was that bad, they probably should've chosen a different day to go riding.
You're not alone with that statement.
You're not alone with that statement.
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