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Difference between LS and GSR models (besides engine)?


GSR2NR94
12-29-2005, 09:03 PM
Whats up guys. Im just wondering, besides the engines, are there any differences between the LS and GSR models? I know a few exterior things like sunroof and spoiler are on the GSR, but is there anything else different between the models like suspension or anything? Thanks in advance.

knorwj
12-29-2005, 09:57 PM
well the LS is the mid-package integra, lower than the GS and obviously the GS-R so I would assume there are some comforts inside that are options instead of standard like power windows etc. I don't really know the options list off the top of my head. I think another thing is color matched moulding was not on the LS, I believe they had the black kind. Also I think you could only get ABS on GS and GS-R models, at least on the older ones anyway.

nu-b94teg
12-29-2005, 11:38 PM
well the LS is the mid-package integra, lower than the GS and obviously the GS-R so I would assume there are some comforts inside that are options instead of standard like power windows etc. I don't really know the options list off the top of my head. I think another thing is color matched moulding was not on the LS, I believe they had the black kind. Also I think you could only get ABS on GS and GS-R models, at least on the older ones anyway.


Well on my 94 LS it has ABS, sunroof, and power windows. I think the only difference is that the GSR comes with leather, and the vtec engine.

knorwj
12-30-2005, 12:03 AM
Well on my 94 LS it has ABS, sunroof, and power windows. I think the only difference is that the GSR comes with leather, and the vtec engine.


like I said options not standard. meaning it can have them but rather than checking all those little boxes to get those options you could just buy the GS and have them standard.

GSR2NR94
12-30-2005, 11:29 AM
Ok, I thought it was the LS that came before the GSR but I guess its the GS. Why does everybody refer to the engine mods as LS ... (ie, LS Vtec, LS turbo). Thats what I was trying to figure out because i was just dabating on an LS turbo.

CivicSpoon
12-30-2005, 12:02 PM
LS, RS, GS; all have the same engine. The LS is just a more popular model, so people refer to the b18b as the LS engine. Probably the same reason people refer to the '92-'95 Civics as the EG or the Integras as DC2 or DC5, etc...because it's just easier that way I guess (and they don't know any better :D).

GSR2NR94
12-30-2005, 04:58 PM
Yea thats the thing. I don't know why the LS is more popular when the GS is a model up from that. Seems like they would want the GS.

LSintegra96
01-02-2006, 03:33 PM
My special edition LS integra has everything a gsr has including leather sunroof power locks and windows ... EXCEPT the best thing of all...The GSR engine.. I heard the ls gs and rs have the same 1.8 engine and the gsr is the best with a 1.9 engine ( yes if you look at the specs its really a 1.9) but it only says 1.8... gsr-170hp ls,rs,gs-142hp your choice!!!

CivicSpoon
01-02-2006, 03:52 PM
WTF? It's a 1.8L, technically it's a 1.797cc engine so it's not even a 1.8L. And the LS/RS/GS has more displacement with it's 1.834cc engine.

knorwj
01-02-2006, 03:59 PM
My special edition LS integra has everything a gsr has including leather sunroof power locks and windows ... EXCEPT the best thing of all...The GSR engine.. I heard the ls gs and rs have the same 1.8 engine and the gsr is the best with a 1.9 engine ( yes if you look at the specs its really a 1.9) but it only says 1.8... gsr-170hp ls,rs,gs-142hp your choice!!!


A LS special edition is the same as a GS. Also I believe if you read the specs its the GS/LS/RS 1.8 engine that has slightly more displacement due to its longer stroke, not the gs-r which has a slightly shorter stroke.

GS/LS/RS = 3.19x3.5 bore and stroke
GS-R= 3.19x 3.43 bore and stroke

The gs-r having more HP has nothing to do with displacement. Its the fact that it has a shorter stroke so it can rev higher, has a head that supports air flow at higher rpms than the others, has a vtec head, Higher compression etc. the list could go on but i'll stop.

pepsihatman
01-02-2006, 04:19 PM
Is the suspension between the GSR and the LS/GS/RS cars the same? I know the GSR came with different tires/wheels.

CivicSpoon
01-02-2006, 04:30 PM
Pretty sure the GS-R has a sport suspension setup, where the other ones don't (excluding the type r of course). But don't quote me on that...

LSintegra96
01-02-2006, 06:02 PM
The 92-93 gsr is a 1.7 not the 94-00

CivicSpoon
01-02-2006, 06:07 PM
Ok...but you're still wrong.

knorwj
01-03-2006, 12:37 AM
The 92-93 gsr is a 1.7 not the 94-00


who's talking about the 92-93?

GSR2NR94
01-10-2006, 01:31 AM
What does the GSR have suspension wise that the LS does not?

gnushit
01-20-2006, 03:22 PM
the suspension is the same for all models of integra except the r. gsr and gs comes with stock 15" alloy rims. gsr has 2 sets of rims you can choose from, webs and blades, while gs has only webs. there are a lot more ls's than gs's that's why people call it ls-vtec (ls block gsr head), ls-turbo (just regular turbo), etc.

96blazerlt4x4
01-30-2006, 12:20 PM
i know the GS has the ugly woodgrain in the interior...ls doesnt..id take my ls over the gs

Chad51
01-30-2006, 08:41 PM
My question is... Is the LS motor of a 2nd gen. the same as the LS motor of a 3rd gen.? I'm not too familiar with the engine codes but are the all B18B's? Or would the 2nd gen. be a B18A?

gnushit
01-30-2006, 11:45 PM
i know the GS has the ugly woodgrain in the interior...ls doesnt..id take my ls over the gs
wtf are you talking about? this isn't a lexus gs. all the interiors are the same except for the r. ALL gs' have leather interior, some gsr's and some ls's have leather if you want to upgrade from the factory. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS WOODGRAIN INTERIOR IN AN INTEGRA (unless you buy the gay ass woodgrain sticker shit).

My question is... Is the LS motor of a 2nd gen. the same as the LS motor of a 3rd gen.? I'm not too familiar with the engine codes but are the all B18B's? Or would the 2nd gen. be a B18A?
the engines are different. you're right, 2nd gen is b18a1 and 3rd gen is b18b1. there's only a 10hp differance...

gnushit
01-30-2006, 11:46 PM
oh yeah forgot, gsr's have a strut bar and a spoiler from the factory and ls's don't

ridge_runner
01-31-2006, 12:30 AM
another good way to tell is the little tweeters on the door panels.. only the gsrs have them

gnushit
01-31-2006, 12:36 AM
another good way to tell is the little tweeters on the door panels.. only the gsrs have them
are you sure? my gs has them and my friend's ls has them also. both of our sound systems are stock

ridge_runner
01-31-2006, 12:00 PM
are you sure? my gs has them and my friend's ls has them also. both of our sound systems are stock

hmm thats strange... every ls i have ever looked at never had them.. and my gsr does along with every gsr ive seen.... i dont know then

what year is yours and your friends.... maybe in 98 they put them in all models?

LSintegra96
01-31-2006, 06:08 PM
I have a special edition 96 ls and i have no tweeters in the doors but i have leather definetly no wood grain (i never fricken heard of that sh** in an integra lol) unless its special edition or a gsr or type r i dont think they come leather.. They are all cloth!!

gnushit
01-31-2006, 08:37 PM
hmm thats strange... every ls i have ever looked at never had them.. and my gsr does along with every gsr ive seen.... i dont know then

what year is yours and your friends.... maybe in 98 they put them in all models?
yeah maybe they did change starting in 98 because my gs is a 98 and my friend's ls is a 99...

iVteC_PoWeR
01-31-2006, 09:34 PM
90-91 Integra = 130hp OBD0 (cable tranny)
92-93 Integra = 140hp OBD1 (cable tranny)
94-95 Integra = 142hp OBD1 (hydro tranny)
96-01 Integra = 142hp OBD2 (hydro tranny)

thats for the LS,RS,GS integra models

96blazerlt4x4
01-31-2006, 09:36 PM
wtf are you talking about? this isn't a lexus gs. all the interiors are the same except for the r. ALL gs' have leather interior, some gsr's and some ls's have leather if you want to upgrade from the factory. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS WOODGRAIN INTERIOR IN AN INTEGRA (unless you buy the gay ass woodgrain sticker shit).

ive seen woodgrain in 3- GS 4dr integras ive looked at..its just minor..but its around the shifter

and my 98 ls has tweeters....
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96blazerlt4x4
01-31-2006, 09:43 PM
heres a pic with the lil bit of woodgrain in the GS..its around the shifter
its just ugly......

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/mommy2savannah51405/gsinter2.jpg

ridge_runner
01-31-2006, 09:48 PM
and my 98 ls has tweeters....
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maybe they did change it in 98... every pre 98 ive seen hasnt had them except the gsrs

96blazerlt4x4
01-31-2006, 09:49 PM
maybe they did change it in 98... every pre 98 ive seen hasnt had them except the gsrs

i went from a 96 ls to a 98 ls..the 96 didnt have em..

gnushit
01-31-2006, 11:02 PM
heres a pic with the lil bit of woodgrain in the GS..its around the shifter
its just ugly......

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/mommy2savannah51405/gsinter2.jpg
are all the one's you've seen are on 4 door gs'? i have 4 other friends who have 98+ 2-door integra gs' and non of them have woodgrain. maybe it's just for 4 doors?

96blazerlt4x4
01-31-2006, 11:06 PM
seen em in 4drs mainly..maybe it is just 4s?

ridge_runner
02-01-2006, 11:50 PM
are all the one's you've seen are on 4 door gs'? i have 4 other friends who have 98+ 2-door integra gs' and non of them have woodgrain. maybe it's just for 4 doors?

i was scrolling threw the post up your rides section and found this 2 dr gsr with the woodgrain interior
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=174216&page=2

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