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I hate the LS1's wiring harness.....


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Mr. Luos
12-22-2005, 08:58 PM
Talk about a pain in the ass. Getting the wiring in the right places is a BITCH.
Oh well, 2 more days. I would still be out there but I started getting a little dizzy so I came inside.

As it sits now, it is still a wiring nightmare.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Swap152.JPG

Hoping this table is damn near cleared off by the end of tomorrow. Notice the pulley....finally showed up today.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Swap153.JPG

New front rubber showed up today as well.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/BFG.JPG

And on to SLP....I have their overpriced 85mm Mass Airflow Sensor. If you remember the issues I was having with that oil pump you will understand why I am removing anything I can that says SLP on it. Lid has already been sanded and re-painted a glossy black.
So....time to ditch the SLP logo on the MAF.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/MAF1.JPG

And what do I find underneath....DELPHI. GM electronics. Sorry this one isn't very clear, don't have my new camera yet.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/MAF2.JPG


Still thinking I can have a start-up video for you guys on Saturday. :evillol:

AFI 05
12-22-2005, 09:11 PM
yeah the wiring does look insane. good luck with it and load up some vids!

cuda_dude
12-22-2005, 10:09 PM
wow, looks like your ready to go... you even have the air freshener on the table ready to pop in...

ROUDA
12-22-2005, 10:27 PM
What size tires you got there.

Mr. Luos
12-22-2005, 10:30 PM
What size tires you got there.
275/40/17
These are for the front.
Same size DR's on the back already.

Rally Sport
12-22-2005, 10:32 PM
Well I guess tires can count as stocking stuffers. :lol:

1986Z28
12-22-2005, 10:34 PM
lol

1986Z28
12-22-2005, 10:36 PM
plus what are you doing with all those decals, i need something to decorate my new toolbox!!!!

Mr. Luos
12-22-2005, 10:38 PM
Not really sure yet. I was thinking garage wall....but what if I move?? :lol:

ROUDA
12-22-2005, 10:42 PM
you useing the stock rims

Mr. Luos
12-22-2005, 10:42 PM
Yup.

ROUDA
12-22-2005, 11:17 PM
Where did you learn how to work on cars with the electrical everything. That isnt easy for to many people.

cuda_dude
12-22-2005, 11:41 PM
Where did you learn how to work on cars with the electrical everything. That isnt easy for to many people.
what do you mean? as in the wiring harness?

ROUDA
12-22-2005, 11:44 PM
I ment he can rip anything on his car apart and know what hes doing. Not to many people can do that.

Rally Sport
12-22-2005, 11:44 PM
I bet he means electrical in general since carbed engines are way easier to work on.

Viper_Storm
12-22-2005, 11:46 PM
just wondering, but what kind of motor oil is on the table? looks like 2 diffrent kinds?

ROUDA
12-22-2005, 11:50 PM
I never worked on a carbed engine. I know how all the parts work. But when it comes to the PCM, ECM, or ECU and Mass air flow/all the sensers I never worked or had anyone show me or explane to me how and what it all does and goes together.

ROUDA
12-22-2005, 11:53 PM
just wondering, but what kind of motor oil is on the table? looks like 2 diffrent kinds?

I would have to say theres trany fluid 5w30 oil and some OJ on the table.

cuda_dude
12-22-2005, 11:53 PM
I ment he can rip anything on his car apart and know what hes doing. Not to many people can do that.
oh alright, i understand what you mean now...yeah there is more to newer cars compared to carbed cars but once you tear it apart once its not really that hard, its not as scary as it looks... (well it is but its not that bad)..... I'm sure Luos knows what he's doing though... atleast some of the time:wink:

Viper_Storm
12-22-2005, 11:54 PM
I never worked on a carbed engine. I know how all the parts work. But when it comes to the PCM, ECM, or ECU and Mass air flow/all the sensers I never worked or had anyone show me or explane to me how and what it all does and goes together.

? hes running fuel injection.

Rally Sport
12-22-2005, 11:59 PM
? hes running fuel injection.

Swing and a miss!

ROUDA
12-23-2005, 12:00 AM
I realize hes running fuel injection. That makes it even tuffer.

cuda_dude
12-23-2005, 12:03 AM
makes it more fun

Viper_Storm
12-23-2005, 12:11 AM
Swing and a miss!

how so?

well acutally hes not running anything, his tb / intake manifold / fuel injection setup is sitting on his kitchen table, so i guess i kinda missed...

Viper_Storm
12-23-2005, 12:16 AM
Swing and a miss!

how so?

well acutally hes not running anything, his tb / intake manifold / fuel injection setup is sitting on his kitchen table, so i guess i kinda missed...

cuda_dude
12-23-2005, 12:20 AM
3 strikes and your out

Rally Sport
12-23-2005, 12:34 AM
how so?

well acutally hes not running anything, his tb / intake manifold / fuel injection setup is sitting on his kitchen table, so i guess i kinda missed...

Well you said that Lous is running (WILL BE, take your pick) FI. which was clearly stated in the pictures.. so thats why you missed in you trying to own him by showing him that you know more than him.

Mr. Luos
12-23-2005, 12:42 AM
I am learning as I go for sure.
Some of this I have done before, and some I haven't.

Yes...it is fuel injected. All the wiring for everything (all sensors, injectors, starter, etc...) is stock. Just have to reconnect everything to the right spot at this point.
Everything so far has been done in my garage. Took the stock LS1 out from the bottom, got the new motor ready (installed heads, cam, timing chain, etc...), and put it back under the car.
The only part not done by me so far has been the assembly of the shortblock. The pistons, rods, etc...

Genopsyde
12-23-2005, 12:50 AM
The only part not done by me so far has been the assembly of the shortblock. The pistons, rods, etc...
which is fairly simple compared to everything else, just a lot of precision and constant checks involved.

KPot2004
12-23-2005, 12:57 AM
i am guessing the cheap oil is just til u break it in?

Rally Sport
12-23-2005, 01:03 AM
i am guessing the cheap oil is just til u break it in?

Yeah, he said this a while ago, he'll run cheap oil, then not so cheap, and then synthetic.

cuda_dude
12-23-2005, 01:18 AM
yup can't break an engine in on synthetic oil....

Viper_Storm
12-23-2005, 09:22 AM
Well you said that Lous is running (WILL BE, take your pick) FI. which was clearly stated in the pictures.. so thats why you missed in you trying to own him by showing him that you know more than him.

i donno how you can mistake a big ass intake manifold, with fuel rails for a carb?

and i wasnt trying to own any one, when he said something about the carb i was like what? "?" and then i said that hes running fuel injection.

on a side note, do you think i can make an intake manifold like luos's fit my 2.2 cav? lol, maybe i can just rig it up for looks? that would be bad ass pop the hood and see one of those, it would look hot to.

Mr. Luos
12-23-2005, 10:48 AM
do you think i can make an intake manifold like luos's fit my 2.2 cav?
Maybe half of the intake. :lol:

Link85x
12-23-2005, 11:01 AM
Wire harnesses can be a bitch.

1986Z28
12-23-2005, 02:49 PM
hes right you cant break i a new engine on synthetic its the cam which cant be broken in on synthetic, its to slippery dosnt allow the lifters to seat on the cam properly

Mr. Luos
12-23-2005, 03:24 PM
Cam doesn't need broken in on this motor.

Rings need to seat. They don't seat properly using synthetic I guess.

Genopsyde
12-23-2005, 05:19 PM
yea, what they said.

Mr. Luos
12-23-2005, 09:09 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Swap154.JPG

karll
12-23-2005, 09:23 PM
i have been checking the pontiac: firebird forum for the past week looking for new Luos posts. then i decided to check the camaro forum and what do you know. quite the run around. at least it will be running soon.

Rally Sport
12-23-2005, 09:33 PM
^Damn, Curtis, that looks so sweet!


i have been checking the pontiac: firebird forum for the past week looking for new Luos posts. then i decided to check the camaro forum and what do you know. quite the run around. at least it will be running soon.

That's kinda how it is. 3rd and 4th gen Camaros are the same thing and for some reason the Camaro forum is more popular than the Firebird forum, so you could get more responses and faster as well compared to the firebird forum.

Mr. Luos
12-23-2005, 10:35 PM
By the looks of things...

It should be started tomorrow. Hard to say if it will run...but I will be trying.

Sorta a small snag though. Gotta order some O2 extenders....stockers aren't long enough for longtubes.
Running and driveable are different things. :lol:

I did pick up the camera if that tells you anything.

1986Z28
12-23-2005, 11:16 PM
looking good, cant wait to see this thing finished

drvngstorm05
12-23-2005, 11:50 PM
pshhhhh, that car will be a pushover :wink:

cuda_dude
12-24-2005, 12:46 AM
By the looks of things...

It should be started tomorrow. Hard to say if it will run...but I will be trying.

Sorta a small snag though. Gotta order some O2 extenders....stockers aren't long enough for longtubes.
Running and driveable are different things. :lol:

I did pick up the camera if that tells you anything.

if you dont want to wait you can just make your own, its pretty easy, just mark the 02 wires, cut them in half, add in your needed length of wire, solder it up, tape each wire up nice and your good to go...

88camaroproject
12-24-2005, 10:36 AM
START IT!!!! woooooooo hoooooooooo

92zcamaroperson
12-26-2005, 07:33 PM
if you dont want to wait you can just make your own, its pretty easy, just mark the 02 wires, cut them in half, add in your needed length of wire, solder it up, tape each wire up nice and your good to go...

Id want this thing as perfect as possible. And for peace of mind I wouldnt splice in anything. I dont know if the small amount of resistance added by slicing would do anything but being a paranoid person as I am I would not want to find out. It should start up fine without them. Just plug the holes in the mean time with some bolts. I have faith in ya luos! Just remember to connect the battery......

Mr. Luos
12-26-2005, 08:22 PM
I tryed to fire it Saturday.
Oil pressure....check.
Fuel....check.
Spark....check.
Too much fuel....check.

It floods out. I have been trying to get ahold of my buddy that has HPTuners to get a very basic tune on it so I can break it in.
I also ordered the O2 extenders this morning.

If I get those O2 extenders by Friday and can get ahold of my friend, it WILL be started this upcoming weekend.
Still won't be driveable though most likely. I want to make sure the motor is okay before putting everything back together.

karll
12-26-2005, 08:31 PM
Damn, I was starting to get anxious. All I wanted for christmas was a vid of Luos's new engine running in his car. Why do you have to be such a grinch Luos?

Mr. Luos
12-26-2005, 08:33 PM
:lol:

Believe me...I wanted it started too.

88camaroproject
12-27-2005, 01:06 AM
lol, so what ya run in the quarter mile? lol damn come on hurry up ahhhhh the suspense is killing me!

bag91
12-27-2005, 01:07 AM
Id say 12's/ 11s'

cuda_dude
12-27-2005, 01:32 AM
gotta figure in his altitude.... he would run great times down here at sea level

bag91
12-27-2005, 02:01 AM
Yea.....

Mr. Luos
12-27-2005, 08:24 AM
My goal is mid 12's here.
That would be a mid 11 or so at sea level.

The car will have the power for 10's at sea level, just needs to hook.

88camaroproject
12-27-2005, 09:03 AM
can you say balls.........

Link85x
12-27-2005, 09:35 AM
Nice!!!

bag91
12-27-2005, 03:16 PM
Can you say "FAST"

Link85x
12-27-2005, 03:35 PM
Ffffaaaaassssstttttt!!!!!!

bag91
12-27-2005, 04:08 PM
lol

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