bout 550 HP Carrera GT

bout 550 HP Carrera GT how much u htink it costs??

it is *rumored* that the Carrera GT will cost $315,000.

I heard that it should cost around $300,000.

It costs a whopping $350,000 plus a $50,000 non refundable deposit that goes towards a credit in it if you get one. You can pay the $50,000 to be on the list but that doesnt guarantee that you are definately getting one.

<><><>Vince

are you serious vince??

thats insane i would never give someone 50,000 USD to hold a car for me and (|)maybe(/|) get it thats bull sh*t

jeezus
i guess thats the kind of stuff the new and improved and uncaring porsche is

think 350000$ is right

the question is.........
will the carrera gt outperform the enzo??????
this way:greenchai

donßt think so!
the only car that i know that can beat enzo is a Stealth B6

900kg
660ps
0 - 200 kmh 7,6 sec

I don't think it is $50,000. My uncle got on the list with a 1 k deposit and was called up by porsche and asked if he was willing to put down $5000 more. They may have have increased the required deposit. But he had already put a deposit down before they even anounced production (it was still in concept form). You may be required to pay that now.

I think it will cost between 75 grand and 125 grand

i'm not sure, I have to ask my uncle in german, he designs porsches:hehe:

You stole my avatar!!!!

j/k ;)

It's also goign ot be a lot more than 75 -125, 350 sounds right, but even that is high, it's still a concept at the moment so prices aren't exacted. I'm thinking it will go for no more than $300,000 USd when it's comes out, there are very few production cars that exceed that spare the SE Lamborghinis and Ferraris.

excuse you, my is much bigger and better than yours:flipa:
but it only has a V10 so, think of a Dodge Viper

I like your sig, Porsche

Around $275,000

That is insane. There is no way they will charge that much...

looks as if most of the people thought it would be around this price

uncle in germany that designs porsches?

wtf.

the pricing is between 350k and 400k as noted by autoweek this week...

dude stop following me everywhere I go, damn

stop posting bullshit everywhere you go...

stop posting bullshit everywhere you go...

Right on Flylwsi :D Been waiting to say that myself. IM going to get one of those autoweek magazines today. :) Looking forward in reading up on it.

come back to the topic or i will close this thread


plz!

thanks

greets

i'm still on topic...

i noted the price...


autoweek has pics of the carrera gt with the 2 pc. carbon fiber top on it as well...

not bad looking...

www.autoweek.com

come back to the topic or i will close this thread

OMFG!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: I was on topic about this car....tell me how I wasn't......All I asked for was the price and when Flywsi said something about the artical in that mag. (ABOUT THIS PORSCHE 550HP GT CARREA) sounds on topic to me. Ok Still on topic here, Thanks for the autoweek link flywsi, Now I guess I don't need to get the magazine at all :D Great car, Will turn heads I believe if it already hasn't.

the site has way more than the mag, as it's a weekly... the site is pretty amazing and widespread...

the magazine is great for visual reference though...

The Carrera GT will no longer have 558hp from a 5.5L V10 but 612 (european model) from a 5.7L V10. Unfortunately though the weight of the car has increased from the concepts 2700lbs. to a bit more than 3000lbs. Also dropped from the concept car is the driver's console flat-screen display with built in telemetry for a more conventional dial cluster which sadly resemble the current 996 set up. Too many complaints and fears of it not being reliable I guess. But with a price tag now at $440,000!! it damn well better have some high tech gizmos and gadgets! I lost almost all interest in the car when I saw the pictures and specs of the production version. They completely unsexied my once fantasy car:(

encrypted is still right, the car costs so much, like here in germany!

it has now over 600hp and will be much better than mercedes SLR and the others!

I think around $350000.
:confused: I have always wondered why european cars have cost so much. The viper ,vette Z06, and mustang cobra all offer performance as good as most 911s for MUCH MUCH less. I know that they are a little more luxurious but not that much. Does anybody know why they cost so much more?:confused:
P.S. Please no flaming!:smile:

I believe the most recent Car & Driver article on it stated $430K.

I have always wondered why european cars have cost so much. The viper ,vette Z06, and mustang cobra all offer performance as good as most 911s for MUCH MUCH less. I know that they are a little more luxurious but not that much. Does anybody know why they cost so much more?

Porsche will start GT deliveries here this summer. The HP was increased to better compete with the Ferrari Enzo.

As for the price for these exotics. It has more to do with how North Americans vs. Europeans define the word “performance”. Haven grown up there, I know that most of us back home would say that “power and acceleration” is what’s most important, and is what Performance is all about. Over here in Europe, power (or more specifically power to weight ratio), is secondary to things like braking, handling, and cornering. Yes, I know there are exceptions.

The difference in price: is it justified or not? It’s also quite difficult to compare these cars, but let’s do it anyhow:
Mustang SVT Cobra (390hp, $35,000 USD)
Corvette Z06 (410hp, $55,000USD)
Porsche 911 GT3 (381hp, $99,000USD)


All are good for sub-13-second quarter mile times. Biggest bang for the buck: Mustang, no question.
But what about aspects such as:
Braking, cornering (small, medium, large, increasing and decreasing radius corners, and all in a variety of conditions like wet, dry, bumpy etc.), weight distribution, weight transfer, engine refinement, endurance (how long can things be punished without getting hot, losing performance, or breaking), ride, interior refinement, transmission and differential calibration (have the ratios, strength been optimised), aerodynamics, driver-pedal-shifter position/comfort for performance driving, etc, etc.).

OK, in acceleration all are relatively equal.

In braking, especially in repeated hard braking, Porsche is second to none (even the M-guys at BMW frequently switch to Porsche brakes here at the Nürburgring).
In cornering ability, there’s only a marginal difference between the 911 and the C5 Corvette. At least on paper (usually skid-pads are used to determine cornering ability). In the real world however, it’s not only the ability for a car to achieve maximum G’s in a corner of a single radius, other factors become really important like: does late braking affect the cornering limits? Early power-on while exiting a corner? How well does a car “toss” (from an extreme left-hand corner to an extreme right-hand corner)? How easy is it to recover if I accidentally enter a corner too fast, or apply too much power, too soon? Such real world differences only become apparent at the race track, when behind the wheel, or comparing lap times, (or on the street in emergency situations).

Off the shelf, a GT3 is able to achieve lap times (on most road courses) somewhat quicker than a Z06 Corvette. Is this difference significant enough to feel while driving down the street in your hometown on the weekend? Probably not. Is the $50,000 difference in price noticeable? Yes!

However, if you have the extra cash, and you spend a lot of time on the streets here in Europe and participate in motor sports events, then the choice becomes clear.

I’ve driven a lot of stock and modified Fox-bodied Mustangs and know that they are an extraordinary bang for the buck. However, they do have limits (especially their suspension and brakes), and these become apparent once you spend some time in a 911, M3 or even C5. I also drove a handful of C4’s (Corvettes). I thought they handled OK, but their weight certainly took it’s toll on braking and tire performance after a few laps. The C5 (especially the Z06) is lighter, well balanced, and probably the best North American car for the Nürburgring, and for a great price.

So back to the question:
“I have always wondered why european cars have cost so much. The viper ,vette Z06, and mustang cobra all offer performance as good as most 911s for MUCH MUCH less”

The Mustangs performance is not comparable except for acceleration (it should be taken out of the list). The Viper is simply enormous (not suited for tight twisty roads, but great for race tracks). And, on the road course, the Z06 is probably comparable to a “regular” new 911 C2, yet there are still issues of refinement with the Vette.

Why are they so much more expensive? Is it because of the R & D? A GT3 can do 0-124mph and back to zero again in under 20 seconds, and it gets close to 35mpg on the highway. It develops 381 (real) horsepower out of 3.6 liters of displacement! Comes with ceramic brakes, and is an off-the-shelf race ready car, that can be abused all day long. Does that justify the price, even if a Viper and Vette can’t quite match those figures? I dunno. Depends on the application.

All I know is that I can’t wait to get my hands on one of those new SVT Cobras, shed about 500 pounds of weight out of it, do some suspension tuning, throw some big Brembos on it and drive it around here. Why? Cause it’s the only one that I’d be able to afford.


OK, that was my opinion to the question.


http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2001/exotics/01.chevrolet.corvettezo6.r3-4.350.jpg

http://www.northstarmustangs.net/2003cobra.jpg

http://www.omniauto.it/home/pogt31.jpg

Outstanding post, and an excellent summation. :smile:

Originally posted by AC_A340-500
........*cut* In braking, especially in repeated hard braking, Porsche is second to none (even the M-guys at BMW frequently switch to Porsche brakes here at the Nürburgring).

really enjoyed your post AC_A340-500!!

very interesting about your knowledge/citing of the M boys trialing Porsche brakes.. when i was last at the ring (1999) the Nismo engineers over from Japan were playing around also.. various GTR's running Porsche brakes, but the standout was a set of 12 piston Brabus (limo) brakes being played with.. *nice*

on price, i have spoken with a friend who works in the finance department for Porsche.. the price has NOT been set yet, but is "projected" to be "over" 250k..

deposits will (normally/should) conform with Porsche dealer procedures for "limited release" vehicles such as this -- 10% of total price (which is not yet determined in this case), so most countries dealers are requesting prospective clients to stump up to 20k USD, to join the order queue.. from the porsche finance department's perspective, they are going after the Enzo/Lambo/Merc SLR customers who -- lets be realistic -- dont worry about a deposit price (they want the motor etc!)..

in saying this, previous posts have mentioned as little as 1-5k deposit, which sounds like a great deal for the customer -- but slightly unrealistic from a dealers point of view?

....was a set of 12 piston Brabus....

Wow! Can you imagine doing a rebuild on one of those?!

AC >> i find a 4-piston set of Brembo or Willwood difficult enough -- this is a nightmare thought!! sadly, have never had my hands on a nice set of Porsche brakes -- one day though..

after thinking for a moment about my own times for changing such things over, i have so much respect for race day/pit crew mechanics hey!!