Engine possibly gone, I need your help guys

So, do any of you remember that thread about why Mikes car isnt starting? Well, we got that bastard towed to his house and finally got a day about 20 to go and look at it. Well, we had the problem narrowed down to fuel pump, coil pack, or the intake came off the turbo (he should have just given me the keys, our schedules never aligned enough to have me both look at the car and I could have saved him the $80 tow). So anyway its at his house and he looked at it today. The bastard was out of oil :banghead:. I CAN NOT FUCKING believe it. I havent seen any oil spots anywhere, hes had it parked at my house recently for like a day, we should have at least seen a drop or two. So, no oil... blown seal in the turbo? Shitty rings? I dont know guys. It doesnt smoke bad (a little, just under boost but he rarely boosts it) and no oil spots. Right now I dont care whats causing it, I just want to know if that stupid piece of shit will run when we get some god damn oil in it. He was coming to a stop one day, the idle slowly fell to like 500 rpms and then just died. It still cranked over, but it never fired. Do you guys think the engine is salvagable? If the bastard starts, we are just going to keep filling it with oil and not driving it much until we get a new engine built. So now, instead of his racing seats or sound system (he wants those now because its easy to put those in when its cold out) its time to start building an engine :mad:. I was going to build one for my DSM for fun, but looks like we get to do his out of necessity. In addition to needing your help/advice on what to do with the engine, we also may very well need some engine parts. Any one got any spare 6 bolt blocks/heads they can spare?

Man, this may have done it for Mike and that car. We've done so much work to it and I just keeps on fucking breaking. If its blown I might end up with a DSM, his patience for cars is smaller than mine and its been wearing thin with the never ending problem. Please, guys, help us out. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon9.gif

Damn that sucks. How bad does it leak oil? Are you sure the filter didn't come off? Try doing a compression test that will give you an idea of where the engine is at.

hehehe that sounds like me and good ol chuck norris over there ( ez1286) is his engine have lots of oil? how does the turbo oil lines look.... when was the last oil change? i mean if its dry... you shouldn't have any oil coming from the pan or the filter.... so i would just do a oil check... and be patient... after the oil change let it run till it reaches operating temp.... ( half way for people like me) that is if the car starts.... how do you know it has no oil? is there like none when you open the valve cap? like EZ and I pm'd you about.... he has a block i think head and crank.... that have tested out ok from a place called AMS around here... plus he has a car just like mine and your friends.... just waiting to go in the garage and to be put together he has all the hard stuff done.. its just putting it back together.... ( head resurfaced.... he is porting the exhaust side) so your hopes maybe of a semi project car can still be alive.... plus you'll have a good start on a new engine just in case your friends car needs a new one.... i'll convence chuck norris to get his car in the garage and help you out!

Well obviously running a car without oil is a damn easy way to kill a motor, it might be gone. Sorry to say, but chances are slim no damage has occurred, it shut itself off, right? This is the interesting part, no oil spots, no burning oil, but no oil. Is the oil filter still in place? Check for leaks in that area. I had a friend lose all oil in about 5 seconds coming from there. If not, then he has to be burning oil, badly. He just might not have been noticing.

Yeah, to loose that much oil in the last like 500-800 miles, the leak would have to be hardcore bad right? And the exhaust would be bluer and a mofo right? Well, it smoked a little black when under boost, but I dont think I ever saw blueish smoke, smelled burning oil, or saw any leaks on the ground. There was no oil on the dipstick when he checked. I'm thinking this engine is gone and we are going to be rebuilding one soon. Its too cold to pull that one, so ez1286 please PM me when you are ready to get rid of your block/head. Yeah, this DSM project will not die, atleast not yet, just maybe for Mike. If he does infact get sick of it if the engine is blown then I'm going to swoop in and get it, and keep it at his house so my parents dont know about it. So yeah thanks for the input guys. I figure its not going to work until we can pull that one and rebuild it, but is it even rebuildable?

well anything is pretty much rebuildable.... asuming one of the pistons didn't shoot throw the head and out the hood.... lol your just going to need things to be replaced.... resurface head.... you could cryo the block and the head.... so its even stronger.... thats what tedex did and i heard it was pretty cheap...

My friends huyndai was burning oil bad. No oil leaks anywhere, no black smoke but every week he pore about a liter of oil into that bastard. I think there are rare times when something happens and there is no symptoms at all. I hope you didnt run completly dry on oil but since the car shut off then the engine might be gone. I wounder though, how come the red oil lamp didnt come on ??? You know, when you are short on oil it light up ?

Heres just an update on Mikes car. We looked at it today, the exhaust manifold and o2 sensor housings are booth cracked like a mofo, theres oil all over the fuckin place, and it will fire, but not start. Any ideas on the not starting part anyway (my guess: no compression, rings burned up running on little oil)? We've just decided to fuckin park it. We're going to start building a block and head and hopefully get it in by the time the snow melts and its warm enough to work on cars without gloves. We dont want to get rid of it, but I'm almost positive that engine needs to be rebuilt so why the fuck not? We are going to do it later anyway, now its just one less thing we have to fuck around with. I think we're going to pick up a new block and head for Mike and I am going to rebuild his old engine when we get it out. So, Mikes project is changing course: 500 hp monster. Its getting the 2.3L kit, good springs and titanium retainers, fp2 cams, and some big ass turbo. Are ss valves necessary or will stock suffice (for 450-500 hp plus nitrous)? What about the 1mm oversize? We kinda want to keep the machine shop stuff to a minimum though, thats stuff we cant do (we'll do porting). Thanks for the input guys!

shitty to hear that..... you guys don't havea garage to work in"

Was the car overheating? Cause to crack all that stuff it would need to be really hot...

Sorry to hear that bro, you should be like Sphyder and take this shitty situation and turn the car into a be@st like he did. And be sure to post pics when you are done too :naughty: