I hate everbody/I hate myself.

I'll keep it sweet and short. I hate pointless conversation. I hate meaningless talk. I hate having other people waste my time. I hate my inability to interact with others and the stress it causes. I hate school. I hate work. In sum: extroverts<introverts. :2cents:

Well, we all can relate, thats why we're on-line.
Often writing to people is easier than speaking to them.

I always write (IMAO) witty, well written posts, emails, etc, but my social interaction with real live people has its hazards.

I am always somewhat impressed by people who seem to have the gift of the gab and excellent social skills. They seem to be able to mingle with others so easily; this is a valuable skill which does not come easily to me. For them, meaningless discusion has its uses in smoothing out social relationships.

Sure the actual discussion, the words spoken and ideas expressed are vacuous and inane, but they make for better social relationships with others.

I really have to work at my own skills to do this. It's fraught with hazards, because I have a tendency to make any conversation meaningful, by discussing politics, current events, history, the sciences, etc.

I do not like empty conversation, so I sometimes fill it with meaning that people often do not want to hear. They LIKE the empty platitudes and do not want to be enlightened with facts. I risk ending up lecturing them
about the subject at hand. They get politely bored at best or at worst, accuse me of making stuff up (a la Cliff Claven of 'Cheers' fame )

This is the point of such time wasting conversation; it needs to be done because we all live in a social world (dispite my own best efforts to live like a hermit).

People who do not socialise well come across as being withdrawn or strange, and unfortunately, many people do not understand them and are less likely to work or interact with them.
This, unfortunately, usually puts the socially withdrawn person at a disadvantage.
This is why, dispite how I might want to be left alone, make the effort to mingle with others.

Ditto. I hate talking with people face to face. I never call anyone, i text. I hate when you'r hanhing out with your friends and there is nothin to talk about. Its like king of the hill, all of us standing around drawin closer to death sayin "yep". Talking is so overated.

You can reverse your inability to interact with others by trying to be more open and not thinking of converstions as wastes of time or meaningless topics. Trust me I know more than anyone getting annoyed about talking to people about stupid shit, but sometimes its getting passed that beginning stupid convo to go more indepth.

It looks like that you are suffering from a social anxiety, you have to control it by changing your thoughts and by changing your thoughts you will change your feeling toward conversation and social life, it doesn't cause stress, there gotta be reasons that make you feel stressed out when you get into a conversation with people, it could be fearing from being criticized from others, you have to rebuild your self confidence and self esteem.

People with social anxiety avoid people/groups because they're afraid of them. Introverts don't mind people, but they do not gain any pleasure from being around them, unlike extroverts. Bascially, there's no difference between a boring business meeting and a wild party for me. It simply becomes boring to the point of frustration after a while.
The stress comes in when people won't leave you alone. the pointless weather conversation is about as tedious and entertaining as pushing buttons in accordance with the directions given to you by a pre-recorded voice on the telephone. I'm not afraid of such conversation, but it does bore the hell out of me.

People with social anxiety avoid people/groups because they're afraid of them. Introverts don't mind people, but they do not gain any pleasure from being around them, unlike extroverts. Bascially, there's no difference between a boring business meeting and a wild party for me. It simply becomes boring to the point of frustration after a while.
The stress comes in when people won't leave you alone. the pointless weather conversation is about as tedious and entertaining as pushing buttons in accordance with the directions given to you by a pre-recorded voice on the telephone. I'm not afraid of such conversation, but it does bore the hell out of me.
IMO you need more interseting people to talk to.

Truly interesting, intellegent and well-informed people are rather hard to find, even if you are seeking them out. (Hmmm.....philosophy clubs and mensa meetings, maybe......)

To meet such people, face to face, by chance, in the course of a normal day is about as rare as being struck by a meteorite.

I hang out only with truly inteligent people. I have only 3 friends that I actually hang out with. In the past 5 years I have never hanged out with some one else as I find most people boring.
I never go to parties as there isn't a single trully intelligent person there, I would much rather discuss various topics with my dad who is a very cool person to talk to. He truly is the best person I have ever known in my life and sadly will probably be the only one.

People with social anxiety avoid people/groups because they're afraid of them. Introverts don't mind people, but they do not gain any pleasure from being around them, unlike extroverts. Bascially, there's no difference between a boring business meeting and a wild party for me. It simply becomes boring to the point of frustration after a while.
The stress comes in when people won't leave you alone. the pointless weather conversation is about as tedious and entertaining as pushing buttons in accordance with the directions given to you by a pre-recorded voice on the telephone. I'm not afraid of such conversation, but it does bore the hell out of me.

That's cool, I agree with the guys, you have to talk to people who you like to talk to.

I think you might try lightening up a bit if you can. Carpe Diem.

Sometimes instead of asking yourself, "Does this conversation affect my life for the better?" maybe you should just enjoy a moment. Yes weather conversations are as useless as you described and I agree, I hate them as much as you do. But maybe you should try not to over analyze every word that comes out of somebody's mouth and just go with the flow. Make a joke about how extremely bored you are in a way that comes out funny. Express your own personality.


It works for me. I hope you start to enjoy life a little more, somehow.

it sounds to me like you need to relax and enjoy life a little more....appreciate things and try to be happier.......

I think you might try lightening up a bit if you can. Carpe Diem.

Sometimes instead of asking yourself, "Does this conversation affect my life for the better?" maybe you should just enjoy a moment. Yes weather conversations are as useless as you described and I agree, I hate them as much as you do. But maybe you should try not to over analyze every word that comes out of somebody's mouth and just go with the flow. Make a joke about how extremely bored you are in a way that comes out funny. Express your own personality.


It works for me. I hope you start to enjoy life a little more, somehow.

I think some ask questions about the weather to start a conversation, the boring thing that nobody knows what the other person likes to talk about except montoring him or her for a while and then you know her or his hobbies and stuff that he or her likes to talk about..

Take more photos.

Put some in a gallery.

Sell them for a ridiculas amount of money.

Build a little house in the middle of no where and live there all alone for the rest of your life

:)

Dude, 2stroke, I think I know exactly how you feel.

The only conversation I truely enjoy, is a debate of some sort.

I'm a heap of information and find useless banter...useless...what the hell is the point of it? Parties? No, boring. Once I get drunk, I go off on the deep end ending up lecturing 7 people of the effects that gay marriage would have on the economy, or how you can calculate your speed given your gear ratios, rpms, and tire diameter. Anything that isn't intellectually challenging bores me into the ground.

I do go out to local hangouts and just walk up and introduce myself to people. They ask the dumb useless questions. I've determined that the only people I really associate with are those that are twice my age and I meet online.

I think better typing, I don't know why. In person, my words get going faster than my mouth. Maybe thats the problem.

I know this isn't much in way of advice, 'cause there isn't really anything we CAN do about it, except look for those people willing to hold intelligent conversations.

I'll keep it sweet and short. I hate pointless conversation. I hate meaningless talk. I hate having other people waste my time. I hate my inability to interact with others and the stress it causes. I hate school. I hate work. In sum: extroverts<introverts. :2cents:
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"constantly talking isn't necessarily communicating." -eternal sunshine of the spotless mind

I think better typing, I don't know why. In person, my words get going faster than my mouth. Maybe thats the problem.

I know what that's like. Most of the time when I'm speaking I have problems with pacing. I typically pause while I'm communicating; I like to review what I've written or said and clarify it. It's useful while writing but is a burden while speaking. I had to restruct this paragraph a few times before I was satisfied with it.

I used to feel the same way. But I hang out with a small group of people with my best friend since the age of 10. I am also not a man of many words. I mostly spend my time listening and then coming up with a couple witty responses. Someone mentioned rebuilding/reconstructing self esteem, and etc is truely correct. It will not happen all at once. It will take weeks,months, maybe even years.

i stick to a fairly small tight group of friends, mostly people that know me well. i'm sort of xenophobic...i mean i dont really feel comfortable sometimes in places with lots of people. and im a nervous, paranoid person too. people make me nervous. i dont mind people i dont know talking to me.

when i was in miami last week, i was just sitting outside doing my drawing an stuff, near near the beach in south beach (behind the hotels, like ritz-carlton if you know the area) i was sitting on the wall thing, an i'm there for a while an this girl sits down further up. she was about 10-15 feet away from me. she was facing towards me, just sitting an minding her own business. but cos she was facing me it made me kinda nervous, that an she was quite attractive and i felt nervous but i forced myself to stay put.

i felt nervous because i cant really handle people either staring at me, or looking over at me when i cant tell if they're staring at me or not.

now, usually the spiky hair of mine drives people away, but not her. she wandered off an washed her hands in the beach shower then just came an sat down next to me an started talking to me.

it's wierd cos she made me nervous cos i thought she was staring at me but then when she was talking to me i didnt feel uncomfortable at all.

i dont mind anyone talking to me usually, people always ask me for directions an stuff, or if im sitting somewhere it's not unusual for people to just come an talk to me.

Ditto. I hate talking with people face to face. I never call anyone, i text. I hate when you'r hanhing out with your friends and there is nothin to talk about. Its like king of the hill, all of us standing around drawin closer to death sayin "yep". Talking is so overated.
Ha, you just described me perfectly! :smile: