turbo 2.2L

how do i tell if i have a 2.2L or a 2.2L Ecotec? i have a 2000 2 dr coupe cavalier....im almost positive its a 2200. is a 2.2L and a 2200 the same thing? where can i find a turbocharger for my car??? post a website...thanx

If you have an Ecotec, there will be a badge on the top of your engine that says ECOTEC 2.2 on it...
http://www.hahnracecraft.com/auto/Cavalier/Ecotecturbocloseup.jpg

http://www.jtuners.com/22l-2200-stage-3-upgrade-p-85.html?osCsid=03feb98f7a06e973775bec8d31ae402d

Here is a link to a page for a Turbo engine for a 2.2/2200 (I guess they are close enough for either one to use the same turbo setup)

i dont see the link

nevermind for some reason it never came up the first time

Yeah sorry :P

are there any kits for 2000 cavalier? like with an intercooler, blow off valve, wastegate, and boost contoller, boost valves

Here is the turbo that goes with that intercooler setup...kinda pricey, though...

http://www.jtuners.com/22l-2200-turbo-kit-p-1.html?osCsid=03feb98f7a06e973775bec8d31ae402d

il deal...im ready to drop 20k into my car and i want it as fast as possible

do i get the stage 1 and a stage 3 so i get the turbo and the intercooler or does the stage 1 come with an intercooler and setup that im not seeing

Stage 1 is 5-6 lbs of boost...intercooler is only necessary if you plan to run higher...so you can get stage 1 for 5-6 pounds of boost, and the intercooler if you want it higher...

Is it even possible to fit a Z24 engine with a turbo and ecotec in it? I doubt the cavalier has enough room, would be a crapload of modifications...anyone ever seen that much of an engine in such a little car?

im ready to drop 20k into my car and i want it as fast as possible



your going to drop $20,000 into your cavalier???

Okay...lot of questions and problems rolling around that need answering.

1 - Year = 2000, thus you have a 2200, not a 2.2OHV, and not a 2.2 Ecotec.
2 - I've heard good things about Hahn Racecraft -
http://www.hahnracecraft.com/auto/Cavalier/ln2ohv.htm
Only problem some people have is the fact that they use DSM-style turbos. Easily upgradeable, though.
3 - CCLaguna - I wish I had a way to host a video for you, because I have one of a lovely 2002 Cavalier LS Sport racing a Honda Prelude. The Prelude is pushing 171WHP, the Ecotec is putting down 216 WHP thanks to a t3/t4 turbo and a few other goodies. It was quite a race. So yes, its entirely possible to do that and you have plenty of room. I mean, hell, you can squeeze a 3800 S/C (a 90 degree V6) in there, I'm sure you can squeeze an ecotec and turbo setup. Also, the ecotec isn't a Z24 motor (unless you're canadian...silly canadians), its an LS Sport motor from 2002 1/2 and the base motor from 2003+

Finally

4 - CavLCD - I'm prbobably going to offend a few people here, but here it goes: don't drop 20k into this car unless you know EXACTLY how to ge the power out of it. The only motor that I've ever seen in a Cavalier that can put down really large numbers in a reliable fashion (without custom parts and such) is the ecotec. You could easily swap one in if you're interested in putting down that sort of cash, though. The alternative would be some custom work and a 3800 S/C + goodies swap to gain the biggest numbers possible, but good luck with the handling becuase you'll be insanely front-heavy.

Ask if you have more questions.

From what you are saying and asking, spend about 10k of that on automotive classes at college. a 2.2ohv motor is not a good platform if you want speed.. start on a 2.3 HO or a 2.4 twin cam. or with 20k a 3800 s/c

Or why not just buy a 2.0 turbo charged crate motor for $5,000 then build from there?

Or why not just buy a 2.0 turbo charged crate motor for $5,000 then build from there?

Because the 2.0 s/c is pointless.

Or why not just buy a 2.0 turbo charged crate motor for $5,000 then build from there?
It is not worth putting alot of money in to, you can not punch that much power out of it. Just do what i did and sell it and buy something that you can get more parts for and make faster cheper. Search for a 87-91 Toyota supra. Thoes are not that much and you can make them fast as hell. Get a turbo one. They have 230hp stock. I only have like $150 worth of mods so far on mine and i am at 270hp.

well im about 2 get a bonus from work worth about 10k because of back pay and all this stuff working with the union and so by the time i start working on it i will have about 15-18000 total...thanx for you input everyone...looks like i have some work ahead of me

so what your sayin is if i put this turbo in a 2200 engine....it will fit perfectly and i will have pretty much the same results as it says on the page....earlier i read that it said i have a 2000 cavalier which means its not a OHV....any thought?

I would either swap that crap engine for either an ecotec or a 2.4 then turbo it out. 174 is pretty much crap in the long run.

but the turbo on that page will fit my car?

Yes.

but the turbo on that page will fit my car?

Ok I can see your not getting the bigger picture here. I never thought I would use this old line but here goes....you can polish a turd all day long but in the end its still a turd. :disappoin

lol i totally understand that with the money im gonna put in to the 2200 i could swap it for a better eingine that will give me more power in the end. I just wanted 2 know for future information. thank you for your help

2 - I've heard good things about Hahn Racecraft -
http://www.hahnracecraft.com/auto/Cavalier/ln2ohv.htm
Only problem some people have is the fact that they use DSM-style turbos. Easily upgradeable, though.

What's wrong with DSM style?

well im about 2 get a bonus from work worth about 10k because of back pay and all this stuff working with the union and so by the time i start working on it i will have about 15-18000 total...thanx for you input everyone...looks like i have some work ahead of me


with $18k you're already almost to getting a brand new 2006 RSX Type S. Trade in your cav for $5k and you're there.

I test drove one today and man it was tight as hell... and redlines at like 8k rpm. kind of wish i had one of those to start putting a turbo on. but i still like the shape of my '02 cav better.

What's wrong with DSM style?
Nothing "wrong" with them at all. They're just not very big. They can handle a fairly high pressure, but without the airflow they're just not as useful as something like a T3/T4.

Turbo 2.4 = srt-4 wannabe.

About that RSX. My del Sol B16a2 motor redlines 8k, the 94-95 del Sol VTEC with OBD1 B16a3 redlines 8300. Cheaper by alot, wont crunch his pocket. But the whole reason for the post is to say what he can do to his car, not a new one.... Though I am a Honda faN. Trust me, I hate Honda fags. We have a couple in our car club.

Stage 1 is 5-6 lbs of boost...intercooler is only necessary if you plan to run higher...so you can get stage 1 for 5-6 pounds of boost, and the intercooler if you want it higher...


I agree, but at the same time, i would intercool it anyway just because it allows the car to run easier....it wouldn't be suckin on hot air.

Honestly if you look around long enough you shouldn't have to pay near as much as those kits cost. I'm boosting my Integra, and w/ a clutch, tuning, new 550 injectors, new fuel pump, an OBD1 ECU and conversion harness.....its only going to cost $2600

Look around a little more and you can save a lot of money!!

yea but i dont know what all to get....at least a kit comes with everything i need like a down pipe and a wastegate and BOV

i mean....i dont no what all i have to replace and what im lookin for and what the bare minimum that i need is....like i know i need like a 3 inch exhaust, high flow cat and muffler and a wastegate (btw...what is a wastegate anyway?) and i know i need the turbo n all but i dont no alot about it....any websites that are realllllllllly descriptive about turbos post them......

dude you sound way to inexperienced to be attempting a turbo install/build. Do you have any friends who know alot about boosting cars? Or a good mechanic?

My moms friend is a Mechanic and hes pretty good...he put my tach in and my clutch....im not planning on doing this turbo myself....i just wanna buy the kit and get it put on.....i know there is some matience...but while i wait theres books and people like you all i can talk to 2 learn what i need....sorry but no 1 is born with the knowledge and im learnin as i go....thanks tho for your help and input

My moms friend is a Mechanic and hes pretty good...he put my tach in and my clutch....im not planning on doing this turbo myself....i just wanna buy the kit and get it put on.....i know there is some matience...but while i wait theres books and people like you all i can talk to 2 learn what i need....sorry, no offence, but no 1 is born with this knowledge and im learnin as i go....thanks tho, for your help and input

sorry my computer is slow and retarded so i clicked post twice my bad

All I have to say his holy shit.

First, you need to read. Read, read, read, read. There is a book by Corky Bell, IIRC its called "Maximum Boost" with some stuff after it. You definately need to read that book.

Secondly, you have 20 grand and you are going to put it in a fuckin 2200 Cavalier? Ok, heres my thought break down. If you were to dump 20k into that car, you're straight up crazy. I know I know, people like their cars and emotional/mental ties, but seriously. I dont agree with getting an RSX, with the 4k you'd have after the trade in (you'd never get 5k for a Cavy older than 03) you'd still have a 13 sec car, and it would have costed you 22k to get there. I personally would get a 2g GSX/ TSI AWD ($5000-$10,000 depending on the car), throw in a built 6 bolt (~$2000), big turbo ($700-$1200), supporting mods like fuel pump, AFPR, injectors, DSM link, intake, exhaust, boost controll, etc ($2000-$3000) and you'd have 500+ hp monster for like 12 grand. Then you could throw in some nitrous, a shep tranny, gut the bitch, and give it a sweet paint job and run like 10's. Yeah, yeah, not everyone likes Mitsubishi's I know. Heres my advice on your Cavy, sell it an get a z24 or an ecotec, then build it. I have lots of respect for the ecotec, and I think it would make a sweet platform for some FWD domestic speed.

If you are going to turbo a NT car, do it right. Not intercooling is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of, theres no reason not to do it. Also, building the engine is a must if you plan on putting down some reputable numbers. A super 15g can probably do around 330 hp, so its not exactly a pushover. Sure a big ass t3/t4 can lay down up to like 650 hp, but will you ever make it that far?

Anyway you decide go, good luck and keep us posted.

cool post thor, thanks

thanks for your post il let you know how im doing as i go and il keep you updated....thanx again

thanks to thors post thor i've started seriously looking at DSMs. i doubt i'll have enough money to start building up a whole second car, but check this hot ride:

http://cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&paId=172956560&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=YEAR+descending%2CPRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&recnum=35&leadExists=true&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_13_%7CD-_161_%7CN-N%7CR-10000%7CI-1%7CP-YEAR+descending%2CPRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-85283&aff=azcentr

would be fun riding around in that car.

maybe a tiburon would be cool too.. i have my doubts about starting work on a car that's already getting on in the years.

i don't like TSi's.......DSMs are ok if you like fixing them....but you need to read up so here's something i've been working on for a while, and its still not done....soon tho!!

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=490574

You read that and you'll know what's up....By the way, kits are rip offs. I'm biulding my Integra GSR for boost and w/ a clutch and OBD1 ECU and crome pro.....its only oging to cost about $2500......most of those are new parts too....

As soon as you have a better idea of waht you need, you can find deals like crazy....its true for Hondas so i would assume it'd be fairly true for Cavy's too...you could get a lot of parts on Honda-tech. The only parts you couldn't get are the mani and IC piping......

READ!!

Nice write up btw. Im leaving for BMT in March or April (havent decided yet) but when I get back im buying my girlfriends fathers 240SX for $600 and droppin in a SR20DET motor. My cavy will stay with me as my daily driver. I had a free truck but killed me in gas so I sold it to pay off my car. Hey man whatever you decide to do good luck. Seriously look into the ecotec motor. They can handle boost well and with the write build up who knows 300whp? (and im talkin the whole shbang. Built motor, tranny, axels, all that shit)

thanks to thors post thor i've started seriously looking at DSMs. i doubt i'll have enough money to start building up a whole second car, but check this hot ride:

http://cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&paId=172956560&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=YEAR+descending%2CPRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&recnum=35&leadExists=true&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_13_%7CD-_161_%7CN-N%7CR-10000%7CI-1%7CP-YEAR+descending%2CPRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-85283&aff=azcentr

would be fun riding around in that car.

maybe a tiburon would be cool too.. i have my doubts about starting work on a car that's already getting on in the years.
Sweet man. www.dsmtuners.com (http://www.dsmtuners.com) is a very good resource for DSMs they have a very large forum, a parts directory, writeups, classifieds, and some other stuff. www.slowboyracing.com (http://www.slowboyracing.com) and www.forcedperformance.com (http://www.forcedperformance.com) are two places I plan to do most or all of my parts buying, you can find others at dsmtuners.com. I would definately check out the Eclipse/Talon/Laser section of AF too. One thing I really like about DSM's is their engine. There are 6 bolt (90-91) and 7 bolt (92-99) engines (the bolt numbers are referring to how many bolts hold the flywheel to the crank by the way). The 6 bolts are badass, I've heard the stock bottom end can take up to 600 hp weekly at the track. I wouldnt push it that far, but a very knowledgable man from the E/T/L forum said he wouldnt see any problem with 500 hp on stock internals. The 7 bolts are pretty tough too, they can take 400-450 hp as well. That car looked pretty cool, I would check on his parts list before you buy it if you are seriously looking at it.

240sx that's better you should build that get sponcered and get into drift once you drop that motor in haha just my 2 cent

240sx that's better you should build that get sponcered and get into drift once you drop that motor in haha just my 2 cent

getting sponsored sucks, too much work for too little reward... and you have to wear those stickers on your car all the time. bah.

drifting on the other hand sounds like lots of fun