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civickiller
06-05-2002, 09:02 PM
i just got a speeding ticket like 10 min ago and i was wondering if anyone knew if i could do anythingn to fight it or lower it or whatevers. its $117 53 in a 35.

anyone know about the ranges of the gun. he put a range of 474.3 at 7mHz. if someone could find stuff for me about the range of the guns then i would be greatly appreciated.

anyother input would be good thanks

FourthGenHatch
06-05-2002, 10:36 PM
Well you should go to court and fight it, you will probably get it lowered. And 53 in a 30 isn't that bad, so a Judge might work it down to like 45 in a 30 or more if you are lucky.

Phr0st
06-05-2002, 10:42 PM
well, 53 in a 35 is pretty bad, because anything 10 mph or over gets filed to your insurance company, which means your rate goes up. it could be worse, because anything over 20 or 25 mph over the speed limit is wreckless driving I believe.

Anyway, here's how my lawyer always gets me out. He files a discovery request, which is basically where they have to send you everything they're going to use against you in court. There's like 8 documents for the radar gun alone. Most of the time the cops won't go through the trouble to get all the stuff, because it's a big pain in the butt, since alot of the documentation is in the state capital, where the state DMV headquarters are.

Anyway, if they don't give you the stuff, the court dismisses your ticket, and if they do file it, they're bound to leave something out. So just get a lawyer, it'll be a little more expensive up front, but your insurance won't go up. Someone else on the board suggested prepaid legal services, this isn't a bad idea either.

Melt
06-05-2002, 11:36 PM
yo, why "civickiller". If you like civics and/or own one, why would you make an alias that disses them

slammedcivicsi
06-05-2002, 11:53 PM
maybe he only races Civic....so he kills them....or maybe he drives a CRX.

crxlvr
06-06-2002, 02:51 PM
i have had 2 speeding tickets, both over 10mph and my insurance hasnt raised a cent since then, anyway to help you fight the ticket. ask the cop questions such as what the given range for the gun is, he should know it and provide info to back it up, then ask him the last time it was calibrated for speed, also most radar guns just shoot an area 18° wide so if there were other cars around you, it wouldve thrown the gun off.

good luck.

Melt
06-06-2002, 04:19 PM
Another thing you can try for speeding is see if they have performed a road usage survey, They are supposed to perform one every 5 years. IF they dont you can use that to your advantage.

ci5ic
06-06-2002, 05:30 PM
OK. First off, the radar-gun calibration idea. Won't work. People used to use that alot back in the day, and now they (the officers) have a form they fill out like every day saying that the officer calibrated the device using such and such tuning fork blah blah blah... It also states that the officer had a solid "bead" on your vehicle without any other vehicles in the vicinity.

Second, if you have tickets that are over 10mph, and they haven't shown up on your insurance yet, they will. Sometimes the insurance company isn't specifically notified about the infraction, so they won't find out until they run a check on your license (this happened to me when they went to move me into a lower risk bracket. They ran the check, found I had some tickets, THEN the insurance went up).

I would say that PhrOst has the right idea. Either that, or if you subpeona an officer to appear in court as a witness, most of the time they don't show up, so they drop the charge.

One other thing that I was thinking about yesterday (I don't know how feasible this is, or how to do it, but):
See if you can turn your speedometer down so that it registers a lower speed than you are actually travelling at (by like 10-15mph). Then, take your car into the shop, have them test the speedometer and fix it. They should then be able to give you proof that your speedometer was off by XXmph and that they did in fact fix it. Then, when you go into court, you provide that information to the judge, proving that the speedo was off and it has since been fixed, blah blah blah. They should be able to either drop the ticket or reduce it considerrably. Just a random idea I had.

88B18aHB
06-06-2002, 06:49 PM
on a clear day the range of the gun is over a mile so when you slam on brake's it's to late the cops see you before you see them thats why i dont pull over i downshift an if that fails which it always does i jump out the car at bout 19 mph tuck an roll an just lay there tell the cops your thottle was stuck an your brake's went out an your seeing stars :rolleyes:

ci5ic
06-06-2002, 07:56 PM
To which they reply "How many beers have you had?"

Pio
06-06-2002, 09:12 PM
the best thing to do is get a lawyer and have him help you out
with a lawyer i got 5 tickets knocked down and 1 toused out (2 cops wrote me up for the same thing twice) so out of a year and a half suspencin and like 20 PTS i ended up with 5 pts and the 500 i paid for the lawyer was money saved from what i had to pay Phila
Pio

ci5ic
06-07-2002, 11:57 AM
AAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
Got a ticket last night! Cop was a total dick. Busted me for doing 50 in a 30 and modified exhaust.
I said: "The exhaust is legal"
He said: "No it isn't"
I said: "Yes it is! It's DOT and SAE approved!"
He said: "No it isn't"
I said: "Well then I'll just get the codes and go to court... See you there."
He said: "OK"

Scratched the hell outta my tint with his little tint-tester, bitched him out for that.

He followed me for 7 miles before pulling me over...

Damn, I gotta get my radar detector hooked back up!

Autocratic_1st_Gen
06-07-2002, 04:48 PM
Bees! Bees! Their ripping my face off! Bees! Bees! Save yourself! Bees! Bees! Your firearms are useless!-------Jinkies it worked!

-Dustin

Melt
06-07-2002, 05:15 PM
First post by Ci5ic -- Got a ticket last night! Cop was a total dick. Busted me for doing 50 in a 30 and modified exhaust.
what kind of exhaust? If its DC sports like your signature they cant do anything. I am worried that that may happen to me one of these days because I have a muffler and not a full exhaust.
Scratched the hell outta my tint with his little tint-tester, bitched him out for that.
tint tester? They have those? That cop was being a dick for sure. When and if I get tint I will probably just get the rear window.

ci5ic
06-07-2002, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I got a DC sports cat-back exhaust... I'll get that dropped.

Fortunately, he only tested my front drivers-side window. My front windows are at 25%, but the rears are at 15%. The tester he used is a box with a slot in it. They slip the window glass into the slot and it shines a light through from one side and takes measurements with a photocell on the other side of the gap.

Now, I just gotta worry about the speeding ticket.

ci5ic
06-07-2002, 05:37 PM
Bees! Bees! Their ripping my face off! Bees! Bees! Save yourself! Bees! Bees! Your firearms are useless!-------Jinkies it worked!

That's a classic!

Pio
06-08-2002, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by ci5ic


He followed me for 7 miles before pulling me over...

Damn, I gotta get my radar detector hooked back up!


if he followed you that long he probly didnt use the detector
Pio

crxlvr
06-09-2002, 04:08 PM
those tint sensors sucked, they put that bullshit on my car twcie, got a reading of 10% once, then 3% another time on my 15% tinted windows.

ci5ic
06-09-2002, 04:57 PM
if he followed you that long he probly didnt use the detector

Yeah, but my radar detector still tends to go off when there's a cruiser around, wether or not they're actively using their radar.

jedi
06-10-2002, 03:05 PM
i cant stand cops..alright my FIRST TICKET was for $300.00 theres a story behind it here goes....

i was driving my old shitbox PLYMOUTH RELIANT "SLOW BOX ON WHEELS" K CAR. yes one of those ..and i had a friend with me i was bring him to his cousins it was really hot out so i had no seatbelt on cuz i had on no shirt and it kept burning my chest...my tires were really shitty so when i took corners just a tad to fast my tires would screeechh..and i was low on power steering fluid which i didnt know so my steering was really hard..

..okay..so were drivin and im goin around a corner but im havin trouble turning my wheel so i give it alil gas and my tires make a sound so im like "oh shit" so i start braking keep in mind i was going about 20mph and decreasing.....i come to a stop sign stop put my blinker on..AND OUT OF NO WHERE A COP WHO HAD HIS BACK TURNED TO ME..YES BACK TURNED TO ME..AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME BACK TURNED TO ME..turned around walked over to me..YES WALKED...waved for me to pull over ..im like "um okay then" ..he asks for my info im like "excuse me why am i being pulled over ? what did i do?" ..i give him my info he goes "Do you have a sister named *****?" "um yes i do what does that have to do with anything .?" before i know it theres 2 police cars there taking forever my friend is flippin out when it would affect me more since i was a new driver at the time ....okay..so i get my ticket..no seatbelt ..i agree on that one..no blinker..bullshit...obstructive noise..my tires..and the biggest one of all ESTIMATED 50 in a 30 in a friggin K CAR..with his back turned and all ...

So i go home reallyy pissed off.. talk to my sis she asks what he looked like i told her she said it wasthe same cop that hit on her one time and she rejected his ass lolololol

Okay so i appeal the bullshit ticket and the loser clerk was like "so why were u speeding?" "i wasnt speeding sir his back was turned to me " "well it says here that you were" "well i was not " so even tho he brought it down to like $135.00 its still bullshit

again I HATE COPS

thank u

-=JeDi=-

crxlvr
06-10-2002, 03:57 PM
yuo shouldve had your passanger in court with you as a witness, you mighta had a chance at dropping it.

jedi
06-10-2002, 04:39 PM
he wouldnt have gone....he was no where to be found when the time came..shit even when we got pulled over he was freakin out actinlike he was gonna go to jail lol..i had my mom go with me but still that didnt even help..the cops around here are pretty corrupt i know families that know alot of the cops are "paid off "

crxlvr
06-11-2002, 11:51 AM
yea, some cops get paid to hassle you, but oh well.

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