Turbo
wogBoy
12-14-2005, 04:20 AM
would it b possible 2 put a turbo in a hyundai excel twin cam
and also how would it effect the cars acceleration,deacceleration and cornering
and also how would it effect the cars acceleration,deacceleration and cornering
TheStang00
12-14-2005, 04:30 AM
well this really should be posted in the hyundai forum.
but i dont see why it couldnt be done, with enough money you can turbo practically anything, i know nothing about the engine in that car though.
it will make acceleration much faster, and i see no reason why it would affect either decceleration or cornering.
but i dont see why it couldnt be done, with enough money you can turbo practically anything, i know nothing about the engine in that car though.
it will make acceleration much faster, and i see no reason why it would affect either decceleration or cornering.
wogBoy
12-14-2005, 08:54 AM
The Engine is a 4 cylinder in-line OHC
turtlecrxsi
12-14-2005, 11:10 AM
It may be a OHC but is it really a twin-cam? I don't think Hyundai ever put a twin-cam engine into their Excels. My brother is a long time Hyundai owner and has owned 2 Excels when he was younger. He still owns a Hyundai (Santa Fe) and uses the same mechanic he did years ago. So from his knowledge he once described the Excel engine as a Mitsubishi left over that was "borrowed" by Hyundai until they could engineer their own stuff. IMO, I doubt it would handle boost very well. However, if you really love your car then you may want to do some research into finding a 1g 4g63 6-bolt and seeing how hard it would be to stuff one into your car. I think that would be a really nice sleeper.
TheStang00
12-14-2005, 12:35 PM
compression ratio could be an issue to if your car has a really high compression ratio then you might need racing fuel just to drive it with a turbo.
i dont know how big the aftermarket is for thoes either, but if the stock internals arent strong enough you may be able to find some aftermarket parts to put in it.
i dont know how big the aftermarket is for thoes either, but if the stock internals arent strong enough you may be able to find some aftermarket parts to put in it.
xXxRocker5150
12-14-2005, 08:21 PM
I really wouldn't waste my time or money on it... yea it can be done by why do it, if your gonna' waste alot of time and money...
nissanfanatic
12-14-2005, 11:40 PM
It will improve deceleration DRAMATICALLY!!!!:rolleyes:
wogBoy
12-15-2005, 01:31 AM
It may be a OHC but is it really a twin-cam? I don't think Hyundai ever put a twin-cam engine into their Excels.
The 1 i got is a twin cam it is a 2ooo model hatchback
The 1 i got is a twin cam it is a 2ooo model hatchback
RaidenKing
12-15-2005, 04:24 PM
DO extensive research, the very fact that you questioned whether it would affect your deceleration and cornering shows that this is something you aren't quite ready for yet.
The brakes are used in deceleration...
Your suspensions setup is what is vital to cornering...
Your car is the 1.5 liter twin cam right?
Honestly, I'm telling you it would be more trouble than its worth but you could always piece together a junkyard turbo setup and try it.
The brakes are used in deceleration...
Your suspensions setup is what is vital to cornering...
Your car is the 1.5 liter twin cam right?
Honestly, I'm telling you it would be more trouble than its worth but you could always piece together a junkyard turbo setup and try it.
wogBoy
12-16-2005, 03:06 AM
it is and i am prepared 4 the extra speed the turbo will provide
And wat cars would u recommed i get the turbos out of in the junkyard
And wat cars would u recommed i get the turbos out of in the junkyard
TheStang00
12-16-2005, 09:58 AM
i bet a turbo out of a thunderbird turbo coupe would work.
Sleepr awd
12-16-2005, 02:30 PM
or practically any model Eclipse turbo, starion turbo, conquest turbo, dodge turbo'd cars, Supra turbo might work alright
pretty much anything you get off a 2.0l car has plenty of size in it to push you a little ways, and they are cheap, i've got a couple spare turbos' (1g 14b) i could interest you in too, that can support your car up to 15lbs of boost (more than enough)
pretty much anything you get off a 2.0l car has plenty of size in it to push you a little ways, and they are cheap, i've got a couple spare turbos' (1g 14b) i could interest you in too, that can support your car up to 15lbs of boost (more than enough)
TheStang00
12-16-2005, 02:53 PM
actually i have a rebuilt turbo im looking to sell, it will fit a 2.0 good too. infact it is one out of a thunderbird TC.
I have some extra piping i could throw in there too.
I have some extra piping i could throw in there too.
Sleepr awd
12-16-2005, 11:50 PM
it'd be a good idea to see if you can't find parts that will work from other cars on yours ie the new eclipse motor can use many 1g and 2g eclips turbo parts and turbos, the 14b might work on a manifold you can source, or the TB turbo the stang has might flow more air off a custom manifold which is more power, keep in touch though and let us kno how it goes
TheStang00
12-17-2005, 12:47 AM
yeah i would use the turbo myself but im a poor broke college kid...
beef_bourito
12-17-2005, 05:53 PM
I've got a turbo that you could buy, it's off of a big diesel engine, it's about 1 1/4 foot across and could probably give you a good 50-80 psi. j/k, it's not for sale, I'm making a turbine engine out of it.
Anyways, if you really want a sleeper then go for it but it's going to be alot of work. also don't go slapping on a turbo and driving it, that will probably kill your engine if it has the high compression someone mentioned, you might have to lower compression ratio with new pistons. exhaust maniflods can be made if you know how to weld, there's a forum in one of the forums, i think it's cars in general, engineering/technical, it shows you how to make your own turbo manifolds, search turbo manifold in that forum. Also, you should get goo, big, after turbo exhaust, it will help the turbo spool alot quicker. you might want the turbo to be rebuilt depending on the quality, i don't know how much it costs but you should check it out.
Fuel system shouldn't be overlooked, you should make sure your engine doesn't run lean or you'll kill it, make sure you upgrade your fuel system if it is inadequate.
Also you should make sure you do a tune up and get your engine running its best before you do this, it will help performance and durability.
Anyways, if you really want a sleeper then go for it but it's going to be alot of work. also don't go slapping on a turbo and driving it, that will probably kill your engine if it has the high compression someone mentioned, you might have to lower compression ratio with new pistons. exhaust maniflods can be made if you know how to weld, there's a forum in one of the forums, i think it's cars in general, engineering/technical, it shows you how to make your own turbo manifolds, search turbo manifold in that forum. Also, you should get goo, big, after turbo exhaust, it will help the turbo spool alot quicker. you might want the turbo to be rebuilt depending on the quality, i don't know how much it costs but you should check it out.
Fuel system shouldn't be overlooked, you should make sure your engine doesn't run lean or you'll kill it, make sure you upgrade your fuel system if it is inadequate.
Also you should make sure you do a tune up and get your engine running its best before you do this, it will help performance and durability.
nissanfanatic
12-17-2005, 07:26 PM
High CR isn't necessarily bad for boost. I run a 9.5:1 CR in a 139,889 mile STOCK INTERNAL 2.4l engine running 12psi(been to 14 a couple times) on pump gas DAILY. When you start pushing 15psi+ on this type of setup, you will need more advanced charge cooling or higher octane fuel. But as most say, 350whp is prolly enough for basic street use... Shit its hard to keep 320whp+ stuck to the ground at 45mph...
Timing is MUCH more important than fuel. You can run a little lean for a some time and not break anything, but if your timing isn't right, you will blow something within the first couple of runs. Not to say fuel isn't important, as obviously I know it is..., but I know a lot of people who buy a wideband, SAFC, larger injectors, tune to 11.5:1, and blow up soon after asking "Why did I blow up??" First thing I ask is "What was total timing," They say "Huh???, Watz DAT??" :rolleyes:
Personally, you should probably just buy something cheap with a little more aftermarket support. 240sx's go for as low as $500...
Timing is MUCH more important than fuel. You can run a little lean for a some time and not break anything, but if your timing isn't right, you will blow something within the first couple of runs. Not to say fuel isn't important, as obviously I know it is..., but I know a lot of people who buy a wideband, SAFC, larger injectors, tune to 11.5:1, and blow up soon after asking "Why did I blow up??" First thing I ask is "What was total timing," They say "Huh???, Watz DAT??" :rolleyes:
Personally, you should probably just buy something cheap with a little more aftermarket support. 240sx's go for as low as $500...
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