Sti vs. Gt Mustang

This guy wants to race me in spring he thinks his Sti is really fast. The only mod he has is a down pipe. Ive raced him once before i had the catback exhaust and midpipe on my car and it was very close even until about midway through 3rd and he pulled half car and he stayed there all the way through 3rd and then we shut down. Do i have a chance at beating him now? My mods are 85mm maf intake system 75mm throttle body and plenum, borla catback, slp xpipe, and coming on xmas will be a diablo predator flash tuner. I think i may also run race gas just in case but if you have any other suggestions on how i can beat him without race gas let me know thanks.

This guy wants to race me in spring he thinks his Sti is really fast. The only mod he has is a down pipe. Ive raced him once before i had the catback exhaust and midpipe on my car and it was very close even until about midway through 3rd and he pulled half car and he stayed there all the way through 3rd and then we shut down. Do i have a chance at beating him now? My mods are 85mm maf intake system 75mm throttle body and plenum, borla catback, slp xpipe, and coming on xmas will be a diablo predator flash tuner. I think i may also run race gas just in case but if you have any other suggestions on how i can beat him without race gas let me know thanks.

Also he has absolutely no racing experience on a track and ive been to the track a few times so ive got the hang of the lauch also ive hit a best of an 8.8 now in the 1/8th ive never done a 1/4mile.

if u get a xcal2 or diablo tuner(i reccomend sct) u will probaly take him

Sorry, but what is an STI? Suburu or VW? Once you say what it is I'll probably say...................oh yeah.

subaru... the little 4 cylinder turbo car

i've raced an sti as well as driven one.and they're mean little critters. If you go from a stop i'd say that he's got you just because he's AWD and can do a high-rev launch . while your little struggling for traction he's well on his way. so id suggest racing atleast 1/4 mile so u have enough time to pull him because he will more than likely take u off the line

also a guy with an srt wants to race me now from a 40mph roll he has minor exhaust work done and is claiming 240whp. i beat him sideways from a dig so what do u guys think about racing him again

fuck a roll race him from a dig

you should be able to wax a SRT4 (I assume it's the neon thing) but the STI may be a bit harder (2.5L flat 4 turbo 300hp fpr those that don't know) what kinda tires do you have, because the less you loose off the line the better and with his awd you will loose somthing, unless he can't drive and bogs it

i dont know dude, probably the biggest factor here is that youve got experience at the track and he doesnt. the only way he wont bog it is if he dumps it past like 3 grand, but he might be scared to break somethin. soo... i dont know dude. good luck

im going to be running nitto drags possibly having 3.73 it depends on if i find a good place to put them in for cheap cause the ford dealer wanted 630 to put them in and thats if i have the gear and i dont at the moment so it would come to 800 and no way am i payin that much for gears to go into the car its not worth it. but what i am countin on at the track is him sleeping off the line cause he has never raced at a track and i have my reaction times are .512 because at my track if u get better than a .5 reaction time then u redlighted. i am countin on him being in the 1sec range lol so awd wont help him too much to pull back.

like someone already said, u need more than 1/8 mile to eat him. i used to race against my friends sti at the 1/4 mile and he only beat me by a little, but that was prolly cuz he was a worse driver than me. with ur new mods, u should be able to beat him. u should upgrade suspension next. (so ur ready to put the hp down to the wheels with whatever other mods u get)

ohhh! and about ur gears. i have a set with 10,000 miles on them, they look new. if u want them, send me an e-mail. i could sell them to u thru e-bay, or whatever way u prefer. where do u live?
theyre 3.73 for 99-04 GTs make a reasonable offer and ill take it right away

subaru... the little 4 cylinder turbo car


Awh...CRAP!! Good luck man!! You'll need it! I don't know much about the Foriegn cars, but I did read Motor Trend or Car and Driver last year. They tested a Suburu WRX vs. 03 or 04 Cobra (supercharged) and the WRX was right there with the Cobra in everything-braking, handling, slalom, and ofcourse it beat the Cobra in mpg. In the 1/4 the Cobra only beat the WRX by .10sec.

Like I said, I don't know the difference between the STI and the WRX, but I can guess that they are basically the same. GOOD LUCK.

Becareful man, STI and WRX are totally differnt cars (performance wise)...thats like a GT to a COBRA. But definitly do a 1/4 mile run.

GL

stock vs stock a 04 GT and SRT-4 should be dead even, both can hit high 13's w/ good driver, but isnt the STi more of a mid-low 13sec car stock?

I know that they put up high numbers but I ran with one on a highway once and it never pulled ahead. His front was at my rear the whole time. Who knows anything can happen but my car is basically stock and it didn't seem all that impressive to me.

I don't know much about the Foriegn cars, but I did read Motor Trend or Car and Driver last year. They tested a Suburu WRX vs. 03 or 04 Cobra (supercharged) and the WRX was right there with the Cobra in everything-braking, handling, slalom, and ofcourse it beat the Cobra in mpg. In the 1/4 the Cobra only beat the WRX by .10sec.

In handling and breaking I can see because this car was made to do that kind of thing. In the straight line though the Cobra is clearly faster than the STi. Both of these stats were taken from Car and Driver's site.

2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
0-60 mph 4.9
1/4-mile @ mph 13.4 @ 102

2003/2004 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
0-60 mph 4.5
1/4-mile @ mph 12.9 @ 111

yeah if a cobra is only beating an STi by .10 sec either the STi is modded, that Cobra driver cant drive, or the Cobra is broken.

I know that they put up high numbers but I ran with one on a highway once and it never pulled ahead. His front was at my rear the whole time. Who knows anything can happen but my car is basically stock and it didn't seem all that impressive to me.

Think about it, if the STI was at you rear the whole time during the whole highway race...thats pretty impressive. Remember he is an AWD vehicle, so there is some drivetrain loss at higher speeds. Since you are only powering 2 wheels you should have pulled ahead........

Think about it, if the STI was at you rear the whole time during the whole highway race...thats pretty impressive. Remember he is an AWD vehicle, so there is some drivetrain loss at higher speeds. Since you are only powering 2 wheels you should have pulled ahead........

umm except for the fast that he has a 40hp disadvantage

umm except for the fast that he has a 40hp disadvantage

Point: if he hung from a roll....He'll kill from a dig.

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Is this thread still around :sleeping:

Remember guys anything can happen

1999 Sun International Lotus Elise vs. 2000 Mustang Cobra R
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0205scc_coblot/

And the Lotus won even the straight line tests

What is the weight difference of these two?

1880lbs and 155rwhp difference between the R and the Lotus. In other words a little more than the weight of the Lotus and almost the amount of rwhp the Lotus has.

Think about it, if the STI was at you rear the whole time during the whole highway race...thats pretty impressive. Remember he is an AWD vehicle, so there is some drivetrain loss at higher speeds. Since you are only powering 2 wheels you should have pulled ahead........

Yeah I know from a dig it should have been different. I have had my share of dealings with Subaru's, they are different for sure. Just not my bag of tea.

To add to that, I wasn't impressed because I have been dusted by cars that aren't supposed to hang with an STI. First to come to mind are a Lightning and my best friends 98 Z28, sure its expected that they should take me but I expected the same from the subaru.

The Sti is a pretty nasty car. Are you sure that he doesnt have any mods he isnt telling you about because it doesnt take much to make them fast. But the mustang is one of the best cars in the world.

What about the weight dif. of the gt and sti?

if u race from a dig, u will waist your gas because he will get u. he has nevee rbeen to track doesnt mean that he is not a good driver. l have never been either. if u race from a roll, l think u got chance but from a dig, AWD will get u man. sorry.

yea he doesnt have the track experience but yes he is a really bad driver and i mean very bad he cant keep his shifts in his powerband he misses gears alot of they just arent fast ive ridden with him and his starts also suck too because teh sti is not like the evo u cannot just dump the clutch at redline and except it to hook he has already done that at the track and he just spun yes he still got a good 60' but it was a 2.0 which is better than mine but his time in the 1/8th was only a 9.2 so that pretty much shows u that he screwed up somewhere in between cause 9.2s in teh 1/8th is not a low 13 car. i ran 9.2s with a 2.3 60' but thats mainly cause i dont slip the clutch either i just dump it at around 3. but it will be interesting to see what happens.

Add a 4:10 ring an pinion, under drive pulleys, and some nitto drag radials an its a done deal!

Add a 4:10 ring an pinion, under drive pulleys, and some nitto drag radials an its a done deal!

do not race the srt-4 from a 40mph roll. he will start in 2nd gear with his turbocharger already spooled up to about 12psi. he'll f*ck you up. race from a dead stop and you still may get beat. don't spin the tires even if it means riding the clutch off the line and power shift every gear. same with sti but i think he's got you if he does what he's supposed to. good luck and make sure its not a 1/8 mile race either way.

i have a buddy of mine that has a bone stock 2003 Mach1, mods include a drop in K&N filter, an nitto drag radials. So its pretty much bone stock.
At the track he dumped the clutch @4000 , traped a 1.6 60 ft an a 13.04 1/4 mile. From a 60 roll a stock 03 cobra can only pull 1 car, due to the 6 speed tranny. For naturally asperated power the mach one is a beast with a set of Nitto Drags.
Trust me that srt has'nt got a prayer! :naughty:

The shitty launch roach's have isent because of their turbo, they spool very quickly. It's because of their FWD and have a big wheel hop problem. BTW this thread is 4 months old, im sure he already raced him.