Wont Start
Cbierniat
12-10-2005, 05:20 PM
I have a 86 Bronco II 2.9 and it has sat for a long time....and it will not start...put gas in it and tried to jump it...it wont turn over and it just makes a fast clickclickclick noise when i try to start it any ideas????
thankyou
thankyou
12Ounce
12-10-2005, 06:00 PM
You may have to both charge-up the battery AND jump it 'til you get things rolling.
I would also suggest removing all the plugs and spinning the engine several times, before starting, just to loosen/lube everything up a bit. A bit of WD40 sprayed into each cylinder ... before the spinning... is recommended also.
I would also suggest removing all the plugs and spinning the engine several times, before starting, just to loosen/lube everything up a bit. A bit of WD40 sprayed into each cylinder ... before the spinning... is recommended also.
Cbierniat
12-10-2005, 06:21 PM
the clickin noise is coming form the volt regualtor or volt relay.....
butch h
12-10-2005, 07:30 PM
The clicking noise is probably the starter relay,on the right inner fender.If you jump between the battery side and the small terminal it might turn over/start.
Cbierniat
12-10-2005, 07:37 PM
im sorry can you be alil more descriptive im not gettin what youre sayin sorry...
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butch h
12-11-2005, 11:08 AM
The battery positive cable is connected to the starter relay and the starter is connected to the other heavy cable.The small terminal is connected to the start switch(key).Often the relay goes bad, or has corrosion at the terminals causing the clicking.If you " short " between the battery and start(small) terminals it may engage the starter motor.If this fails,you can try hooking a jumper cable set,one to each side of the relay,standing back away from the battery ,momentarily touching the cables together.If the starter engages,you have a fault in in the relay or battery positive cable/connection.If not,problem is starter related.This is assuming the battery is good.
Cbierniat
12-12-2005, 04:29 PM
Replaced the battery then jumped it like you said and it started up...thanks
Psychopete
12-12-2005, 04:30 PM
My guess is a bad battery. For one, it's been sitting for a long time. The cold isn't helping either. I had to replace my battery as soon as it starting getting cold. It was an old battery though.
Your truck will make that noise if it doesn't have enough juice to power the starter to turn the flywheel. I would attempt to charge the battery first before looking into replacing the starter relay. Though, the procedure mentioned will work fine for testing the relay.
If you charge the battery, and it works, I would still reccommend replacing it. Chances are is that it's going to slowly go dead, and you will need to keep recharging it.
The relay is just a switch. To turn it on, it gets a low current +12volts to turn on a greater current +12volts. The reason they did that is to avoid having to use heavy gauge wire to the ignition switch. The switches would also need to be hulked out to handle the heavy current. Electronic fan relays are used for this same principal.
He was explaining that you need to locate the starter relay, and jump the two prongs. They're basically threaded studs. BECAREFUL NOT TO HIT ANYTHING METAL ON THE TRUCK OR YOU WILL CREATE A DIRECT SHORT.
Pete
Your truck will make that noise if it doesn't have enough juice to power the starter to turn the flywheel. I would attempt to charge the battery first before looking into replacing the starter relay. Though, the procedure mentioned will work fine for testing the relay.
If you charge the battery, and it works, I would still reccommend replacing it. Chances are is that it's going to slowly go dead, and you will need to keep recharging it.
The relay is just a switch. To turn it on, it gets a low current +12volts to turn on a greater current +12volts. The reason they did that is to avoid having to use heavy gauge wire to the ignition switch. The switches would also need to be hulked out to handle the heavy current. Electronic fan relays are used for this same principal.
He was explaining that you need to locate the starter relay, and jump the two prongs. They're basically threaded studs. BECAREFUL NOT TO HIT ANYTHING METAL ON THE TRUCK OR YOU WILL CREATE A DIRECT SHORT.
Pete
Cbierniat
12-12-2005, 05:20 PM
yah i had the battery tested and it was dead and then they tried to charge it but it wouldnt take anyting so i hoooked up my neighbors battery and did all that and it worked but it wont turn over witht the key have to jump it through the relay?
Psychopete
12-13-2005, 10:42 AM
yah i had the battery tested and it was dead and then they tried to charge it but it wouldnt take anyting so i hoooked up my neighbors battery and did all that and it worked but it wont turn over witht the key have to jump it through the relay?
Well, that was basically to test that the relay was functioning properly. You've proven that the starter relay was good because the starter cranked over when you attempted to start it again from the ignition switch.
If the engine is cranking over, but not starting, you're missing either fuel or spark. Try to spray some starting fluid into the upper intake plenum and cranking it over. If it starts, you're engine is not getting any fuel. If not, you're probably not getting any spark. Test the spark to verify it's not there. Do you hear the fuel pumps come on twice for about 1 second each time?
In either case, you should run the codes. If you do not get anything from the computer, the computer is probably not getting powered. Very rarely do the computers go out in the Rangers.
Pete
Well, that was basically to test that the relay was functioning properly. You've proven that the starter relay was good because the starter cranked over when you attempted to start it again from the ignition switch.
If the engine is cranking over, but not starting, you're missing either fuel or spark. Try to spray some starting fluid into the upper intake plenum and cranking it over. If it starts, you're engine is not getting any fuel. If not, you're probably not getting any spark. Test the spark to verify it's not there. Do you hear the fuel pumps come on twice for about 1 second each time?
In either case, you should run the codes. If you do not get anything from the computer, the computer is probably not getting powered. Very rarely do the computers go out in the Rangers.
Pete
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