modifications

THIS Q IS FOR V6s ONLY. PREF 3.4s. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST MOD YOU CAN DO? NOT TURBOS OR SUPERCHARGERS.

V8 swap.


































j/k, start with the basics, intake/exhaust. CAI, headers and cat-back.

personally i would start with a good catback...adds some hp and sounds a lot better

Best mod? gears.

If you want an ideal order though... intake such as SLP's, headers, highflow cat, catback, gears, suspension

I have my car modded already I just wanted to see what other people liked.

Got the 3.4L. Did the SLP CAI.. the headers.. removed the cat.. and a full Borla cat-back... Pretty much all the basic bolt ons. And...






It's still slow. It all boils down to the motor is simply not designed for performance. You can do alot of major mods such as swapping out the intake manifold and plenum off of the FWD 3.4, and swap it onto the Camaro/Firebird 3.4. That would drastically help out the engine by letting it actually breathe effeciently. There's alot of nit pick stuff you can do. But if you're in it for power and speed, then honestly, you can save a ton of time and money by trading it in for a V8. Now I know that's not the response you were looking for, but from one 3.4 owner to another, that's the most truthful response you're going to get.

to be perfectly honest.. im going the same route. I put a Magnaflow catback on, K&N FIPK, cut off the cat, TransGo shift kit.. still not anywhere near where i wanted to be.. and that wasnt cheap getting that far. I've long since been looking into and saving money for an LT1 Trans Am. I hate to admit it, but the 3.4 isnt even near as good a engine as the 3.8, so i cant wait to see what i can get accomplished with a v8.

I agree with that. Are you thinking of a V8 swap, if so what are you thinking.




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what does that shift kit fell like. does it really snap your head when shifting.

it was already installed when i got the car so i am not totally sure of how it is VS stock applications, but it by no means "snaps my head back"...

i am not planning a swap of any kind, i'll likely let my baby go this spring for whatever i can get from her. but who knows at this point..

Got the 3.4L

No wonder you're holding up traffic in your sig :lol2:


J/k :p

I would say rebuild the bottom end and make it nitrous specific maybe?

exhaust and intake to be more efficient if you dont want a v8, remote turbo

No wonder you're holding up traffic in your sig :lol2:

HAHAHAHAHA, that was the best thing i've seen in years. LMAO.

screw v8 swaps, be a man, do a 3.8 swap

waste of money imo. no replacement for displacement, and the 3.8 frankly has no displacement.

you make me laugh

The 3.8 is a very impressive V6 but I like taking the easy way out and the LT1/LS1 are much easier to make gobs of power with not that the 3.8 can't be made fast but with the same amount of work/money spent with the V8's you would be faster by quite a bit but back to your original question. Since the 3.4 aftermarket never really took off and your not looking for a power adder such as a turbo or supercharger. I would have to say the biggest bang for the buck would be from gears.

Best mod? gears.

If you want an ideal order though... intake such as SLP's, headers, highflow cat, catback, gears, suspension

I would have to say the biggest bang for the buck would be from gears.

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:D j/k

No wonder you're holding up traffic in your sig :lol2:

lol Yeah man, a while back when I got pulled over for racing my friend (back when I first got my car, being really stupid, you know how it is). The cop didn't clock my speed but got me for wreckless driving, and swore to me that I was doing well over 100 mph. I was like... "Sir, my speedometer reads 110 mph, and it takes a good 5 minutes to get it up to that speed. And seeing as in how you pulled me over 30 seconds after I took off, I can assure you, I was no where near 100 mph."

twin turbos from a mack truck, 1200+ hp (for 5 mins. maybe)

Another idea: be a man and swap a 4 banger (1.6l honda will do) in it with those 2 giant turbos-thas how we, ukranians, make all that power!

I honestly think it's not worth modding, depending on what your after. I understand that it's the car you have and buying a different one can be tough, but you have to look at long term costs. What I mean is there are alot of f-bodys out there, and alot of killer deals. If your after power and performance sell your 3.4 to someone whos just after the style, then buy a decent Z28 or T/A. Without turning a wrench you just jumped a huge gap performance and even more important potential. I have a buddy that did a LT-1 swap into a 3.4 car, was totally a waste of money and time. Bare min you swap in the V8, PCM, and trans, which altogether with labor and problems, etc, will be closing in on the price of a decent V8 car. But then you still have the V6 brakes,suspension, and other misc crap used to make the base model cheaper. The newer V6s have more of the V8 running gear on them so those would be better, but still alot more grief than simply trading up. As far as modding the car you have, the 3.4 will never produce good power without extreme mods which sounds like you've already ruled that out. So go for other aspects of performance, I know a 3.8 car can achieve a perfect 50/50 weight balance, and will handle like a dream. Concentrate on ditching extra weight, wider wheels/tires(stay away from bigger dia as the added rotating mass will eat alot of power), suspension mods, and definitely gear ratio. You need to decide exactly what you want before doing anything, almost everything will be sacrificing comfort/driveability for performance. 4.10 gears will drastically improve accel, but will kill gas mileage and top speed. Susp mods generally make every bump and dip alot harsher. Big weight saving mods are like ditching the impact structures inside both "bumpers", removing all abs componants, removing all a/c componants, replacing all power seats/windows/etc with manual, removing all sound dampening and/or carpet, replacing glass with lexan, simplifying the electrical and removing miles of wire, and so on. All of this stuff sacrifices safety, comfort, and some is not even street legal, but even a 3.4 will move a stripped down f-body.

DO YOU THINK IT A WAIST OF MONEY IF YOU CAN GET THE SWAP DONE FOR UNDER 3000grand? ALSO WHY WOULD GOING FROM 16in TO 18in RIMS BE A BAD THING, WOULDNT IT BE BETTER FOR PERFORMANCE?

DO YOU THINK IT A WAIST OF MONEY IF YOU CAN GET THE SWAP DONE FOR UNDER 3000grand?

3000 grand lol.....personally unless you just love that specific exact car for some reason yeah it would be a lot more reasonable to buy a v8 car imo...personally i love my car i have and love making projects out of it...but for any reasonable thought process i would say it would be a lot more beneficial to just trade cars for a v8.

I agree, its tough to sell your car get what you think is worth deal with that and find another car with that low miles its a hassel you know.

i agree....i couldnt afford a new car with the options i wanted at the time and its been a lot of fun as i get the money making it into what i wanted but i have spent a lot more money in the long run so far than i would have if i would have just waited...if you like the car as much as i like mine then yeah i say it would be worth it for a v8 swap...but if you dont just LOVE that car i would say trade it when you get time/money

What are your goals for your car

If I did deceide to do the swap I would have everything done at once. I know of a shop that has done the swap multi times. So everything will get done from engine trans computer exhaust rear end and anything else. I do love the car.

DO YOU THINK IT A WAIST OF MONEY IF YOU CAN GET THE SWAP DONE FOR UNDER 3000grand? ALSO WHY WOULD GOING FROM 16in TO 18in RIMS BE A BAD THING, WOULDNT IT BE BETTER FOR PERFORMANCE?

It's hard to say at what price it would be worth it, without alot of research. And what all are you swapping for 3k? Let's say you get the engine/trans/pcm swapped out, all problems delt with, including labor for 3k or less. Your still working with smaller front brakes, rear drums, front springs that will sag under the weight of the V8, open rear diff(no posi), smaller swaybars, V6 guages, and tons of other things noone except someone whos done this knows about. From my experiences when you dive into a major project like that the big purchases end up being a small portion of the end cost, the little things kill you. Thats not saying that it can't be done, with the right skills, resources, and commitment, just that it's pretty unlikely for your avg person.

As far as the rims go, a 18in wheel will weigh significantly more than a 16in wheel. This is all rotating mass too, basically more weight that the drivetrain must get moving and keep moving. The same amount of added weight sitting in the seat next to you won't effect performance near as much as adding it to the wheels. The 18 will have slightly more contact patch, but using a wider 16 will have more patch without adding as much weight. The biggest advantage to the 18 is plenty of room for some big brakes, but again you gotta have the power to spin those too, which you don't. Now on a modded V8 car you probably won't notice a difference, but I bet you'd feel it right away on a stock 3.4.

You need engine, trans, PCM, wiring harness, suspension, and guages.